look…at this point I don’t know why we keep complaining about it. there are still plenty of people out there who just don’t give a fuck about physical media, price points, industry profiteering, etc. we just have to accept we don’t have the numbers to make a difference. I feel it’s an age thing for one. when I was younger I couldn’t wait for any this type of stuff. if I didn’t have money I’d bug parents for it, sell my shit or whatever to get the new hot thing…then I got older and didn’t care as much and now couldn’t give 2 fucks. I’ve become patient and wait out for cheaper pricing, better content, better reviews even though I could buy 10 of anything new that comes out…I want to make better decisions about giving money to companies that don’t exploit their people, so on but there are not enough of us to make a dent so we abide and continue to influence others to our side until we have more who believe like we do. having all these streamers review content doesn’t help. they add to the hype. for them it’s business so they pump this shit up and hype it up and people eat it up because they have the self control of a toddler, amen. touch some grass y’all and then play a little skyrim…
I never understood GTA online. For me GTA always has been a great single player series, so get fucked with your stupid Rockstar Launcher.
Gamers are so impatient these days. I guess all that instant access via online platforms has spoiled them.
I still remember when you ordered physical games via mail and had to gulp actually wait a 1-2 weeks for delivery.
Either that or actually go into a store.
Back then you really looked forward to a game and you actually played and finished it. Also, patches or updates were either rare or non existent depending on the platform, so Devs actually had to release a complete game. There were no DLCs, there were expansion packs, if anything.
I never understood people who need to have a game or a piece of hardware on release day. There will always be bugs. When it comes to hardware, I always wait for at least one revision, before I pull the trigger. As for games, I no longer pay more than 20€ for a game. It’s on my wishlist, I only care about the single player experience, my backlog is huge, sales happen all the time,… I can wait.
I guess all that instant access via online platforms has spoiled them.
And FOMO. I think many active gamers follow youtubers and other gaming content on social media, so they’re afraid of spoilers too.
I don’t think the “no patches” thing was all that true for PC games. I’ve been gaming since the first Fallout and for practically every game I could/had to download one or more patches from the official website. For multiplayer games like Warcraft 3 you had to make sure everyone was using the same patch. One of the major advantages of Steam was automating the update process.
It’s been that way for a while, but before the usenet turned into the internet it was hard to download shit. Especially compared to now
I’ve been gaming since the late 80s. This was before people had internet. Patches for games were very rare on PC back then. If anything, the developer had to re-release a game to stores. Consoles of course didn’t really get that capability until the PS3 era.
When CD-ROM games became common people still only had dial-up internet, if at all and patches were very rare back then.
It was just a different mindset back then. Companies actually took the time to polish their games before release.
People have the power to shut down bad practices if they had even a modicum of restraint. They don’t, so here we are.
It’s kind of disheartening not having solidarity as consumers. It also feeds this kinda FOMO because you showed restraint and are missing out on something.
I missed out on Helldivers 2 because I’m on Linux now and I’m NOT putting that shitty kernel-level rootkit on my system over a game.
Which really sucked, having enjoyed Helldivers 1 a ton, and seeing all my Steam friends playing it. :(
Last I heard HD2 works fine with proton hotfix
Nice! Buuut what about “n protect gameguard”? Does it sandbox it or…?
This might just show how little I know, but how would it be running kernel level Anticheat? Steam isn’t running as sudo and I assume that you’d need those permissions. I thought games that required kernel anti-cheat simply didn’t work on Linux.
Well there have been some strides. Games using EAC (Easy Anti-Cheat) seem to work fine now. EAC tends to be more acceptable because it’s well known that it shuts down as soon as the game is quit.
A lot of these other solutions like Riot’s thingy or whatever Battlefield 6 uses, seem to enjoy (and insist upon) running even while the game isn’t, which is positively sus.
So yeah in the case of Nprotect, I really don’t know. I’ve heard on Windows it’s pretty invasive and jank though, with the usual security assurance of “Lol just trust us bro.”
It’d be neat if it would be contained on a Linux system but also…wouldn’t that void the point? It seems they wouldn’t be satisfied with allowing Linux players if that were the case.
The uncertainty is the frustrating part. =\
I’ve come to terms with this. I view fomo content as disrespectful and I do not support the companies that use it as a tactic.
At some point though you have to accept that if the vast majority are ok with something, it’s probably not an actual issue.
You don’t have to like it or agree with it, and you have the ability to vote with your wallet. Digital only people have been voting with their wallet for years, and physical copy buyers haven’t.
This is a defeatist mindset.
Most people accept the enshittification of the world because they do not know better or they just go with the flow. This is why we have so many problems outside of gaming as well.
"oh it’s popular, so it must be okay’
What an utterly braindead take.
It’s more like “Over 90% of people chose this path by their own free will, and are happy enough with it that they choose to continue doing it rather than stop, so it’s not inherently bad like I think it is”.
Only someone who is brain dead could not understand that.
You’re literally engaging in the popularity fallacy. You’re an braindead idiot who just wants to suck corporate boot.
Word of advice: when you start quoting a fallacy, you’re wrong almost every time.
Oh look, more fallacious logic.
You’re two for two.
People are desperate to latch on to any morsel of media that can distract them from our burning planet, our exploitative society, and their resultant miserable life
Thats why they dont have control, they need this desperately
Idk how this was downvoted. This plays an extremely heavy influence on people’s decisions.
No one wants to hear it because its them too
I’ll be honest, I haven’t touched a GTA since Vice City on the PC.
Liberty city stories on the psp on my end. I got the last one or PC installed it played it for two days and then I threw it out after playing multi-player and the only thing people wanted to do was heist.
Modded private servers are actually really good for the last GTA but yeah the official GTAO experience is ass. And private servers will probably suck for 6 since they bought out CFX.
You should play gta4 it’s a masterpiece
Did I miss something or is gta not associated with Sony at all besides being console first for a while?
They announced that they’re not releasing a disc version just a few days before sony announced they were going to phase out discs for the playstation.
Thank, I didn’t know that
They’re both going diskless/digital downloads for games.
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One problem. I don’t speak lao and that’s the language in all the dvd menus on our Hitchcock box set
Come on, mate, Lao is only one language, it can’t be that hard. 😄
GTA VI will have no official physical media :(
GTA is the exact same formula since GTA3.
Sure you get a different story, visual upgrades, and some newer cars. But you’re not paying for a new gaming experience, it’s essentially become what people made fun of CoD or Nintendo games for.
In that sense you’ll get the same thrills from past games. That’s also why I didn’t give a shit about anything past 3, because I like to play new games not reskins.
Let’s also not forget that much of the talent that built GTA from 1 to 5 left Rockstar and did not work on 6. So there’s no reason to believe it will even be as good as the rest of the series has been.
Source?
What percentage of developers stayed from 3 to 4? 4 to 5? 5 to 6?
different story, visual upgrades, newer cars
Just spitballing here, but isn’t that like 90% of what makes a game? Or at the very least, literally any sequel?
Replacing “cars” with whatever is game-appropriate, of course
My idiot brother learned the term “fetch quest” and then snobbed himself right out of gaming. He couldn’t see anything happening around “go here, interact with mcguffin, go back”
The family grew up loving Sierra games, especially stuff made by the Coles, so I don’t know where he got that.
Technically correct. Why play any other game if you’ve played Fallout? It’s all going somewhere to get a thing to do a thing! I’ve been screwed this whole time!
We know next to nothing about GTA6. It could be a revolutionary game for all we know. It could be the greatest game of all time.
Its going to be middle of the road
A very pretty very expensive game
Big. Large. Empty
Go to point A then point B shoot these guys that just spawned in… Oh you thought the huge open world would allow you to do interesting stuff? No you Just do the same as back in 2003. But now in
4K900P upscaled 30fps lockedMaybe, maybe not. We don’t know, that’s my point.
Rockstar has not deviated since the PS2 why would they now
I’m down with a boycott. Let’s do it.
This is how it will go:
Probably. A man can dream of successful collective action though.
Hold on, we need a boycott song. We want it about gta or boycotts?
edit i’ve decided. can’t go wrong with buffalo springfield
GazelleGames my beloved…
Confucius say: Do not lament the bootlicker giving over their paycheck to Rockstar for their entry price to microtaxation. Celebrate instead the indie game that fulfilled your dream of slapping Nazis with a trout.
Is that real? I wanna slap some Nazis with some trout
We boycott Sony?
Post-covid inflation proved to companies that customers will pay up regardless because they want it and they want it now, no matter the price. Hell, we laughed at horse armor but microtransactions caught on anyway. Voting with your wallet doesn’t work because there are an endless swarm of consoomers itching to blow their money on product.
Consent is actually way cheaper to make than a product that’s good for people.
Sad reality
Lol luna pulled the gog library. I was in the middle of kcd2. I said fuck you. Got my self a nice gaming rig, set it up just like I had it on my TV with controller. And done. Now I’m back to normal.
I’m not sure why we’re surprised.
This entire gen has had spotty coverage of physical games at the best of times. Even on the biggest titles.
Just off the top of my head BG3 wasn’t even available on disc, and Indiana Jones was only in some overpriced collector’s edition.
I guess the odd way GTA6 is putting a code in a box is grabbing the headlines, rather than it just not being available on a disc.
I trust the “code in a box” even less than a digital download, honestly. I’ve had similar things where it just said my code was invalid, and it was WAY more of a PITA to get it rectified than it should have been. If you ever go that route, keep the receipt!
It’s still a pretty big deal because rockstar games are huge and some people still have bad internet. I probably wouldn’t have bought RDR2 on PS4 if it didn’t have a physical copy of the game, precisely because I was keeping that console at my parent’s place to have something to do there despite their terrible internet connection.
