• bigbangdangler@reddthat.com
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    4 months ago

    Absolutely wild that the Confederate States of America was literally conquered and disbanded, and yet they were allowed to keep the flag.

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      Nah, historically militaries are loyal to the person signing their checks. Pretty much every state in the south but Texas is economically destitute. Private corporations would turn on the south so fast it’d snap their necks. No company would choose the market of 2 over 1 or 3, let alone both of them. California alone has enough buying power to shape regulation that’s stricter than the fed.

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      4 months ago

      Fortunately, they don’t have the backing of the entire fucking United States military, as many tens of thousands in the military are from 1 and 3, and they will protect their families.

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        The dog catching the car…what do you do with something like NYC. Even if you win? Where do the new doctors graduate from? Nurses? Who certifies them? Same with electricians, carpenters, gasfitters, HVAC and plumbers? Those blue collar jobs would have their professional credentials destroyed, and be forced to compete with every general contractor… a race to the bottom. Sophisticated technology would stop operating after awhile, and with the loss of the supply chain and licenses/regulated manufacturing facilities nothing in the U.S.A. of substance would be built. Only those in the army would be paid. Essentially you’d get N. Korea, fascist Spain, Venezuela or an Iran, like country. Mass migration out.

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      4 months ago

      Pretty hard to pay your army with welfare states. Also note CA has the most enlisted out of any state and would likely receive a lot of backing from Asian militaries.

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          I mean even in the previous US civil war, Confederate ships when built in Great Britain, France fought proxy battles for the south through commerce and diplomacy, Mexico transported supplies to the south for France. Russia sent Navy ships that were to engage if Britain or France sent ships. Like, other countries absolutely get involved in civil wars one way or another.

  • ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip
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    Why are they claiming Virginia? They’ve been learning against all the other Southern bullshit for a while now

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        Grew up in Virginia, from and currently live in South Carolina.

        Nova and Hampton roads go to 1. The rest of the state goes to 2, but it is definitely not SC. SC actually has black and Latino populations, and a pretty solid chunk of blue voters. Rural Virginia has neither, and is basically east-east Tennessee.

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      4 months ago

      If conservative voters were able to comprehend the world without the lens of the stereotypes they learned in high school, they wouldn’t be conservatives.

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      4 months ago

      I honestly think you take the bordering states of 1 and 3, and give them to 2. And the rest form a united 1.

      Basically, putting 2 between a hammer and an anvil

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        New Mexico, Colorado, Maryland, and New Jersy are not about to join the neo-confederacy. Maybe Indiana, Ohio, and Pennsylvania if the new POTUS is a black gay trans woman from Michigan who promises to ban chikd marriage.

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          Utah joins and there are constant skirmishes in the rural Colorado regions that are sympathetic until CA puts Utah under control

          Honestly Utah, Wyoming, Montana, both Dakotas, Idaho, and the eastern parts of WA and OR

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            Hardly anyone lives in those areas though. And the cities in those states are still really blue/left.

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              I mean that’s the case in nearly every state. Cities mostly lean blue, rural areas red

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    There might be a momentary advantage where 2 come out of the gate strong, as they have their stockpiles of weapons and ammo they obsess over. But they’d peter out the moment their blood pressure and cholesterol meds get depleted and the everyone else rolls their eyes and gets to down to business.

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      Fun/not so fun fact, the two counties in the 48 contiguous states with the most guns per capital are both in Idaho. Then comes Wyoming and Montana. Plus these states are statistically in better physical condition than the south. 2 loses in every scenario, and quickly.

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        Per capita concentration is one thing but what happens when factoring in total populations?

        A single squad with a million guns isn’t winning against a battalion with a battalion’s worth of guns.

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      4 months ago

      10am, first day of civil war: everyone goes home for snackies and doesn’t come back, citing the heat.

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        Covid has shown that even a mild disruption in supply chains, and things start to grind to a halt. Imagine no function shipping ports, airports, jammed airways, no trains, widespread Internet and banking app outages.

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    4 months ago

    1 has a big chunk of the active nuclear weapon stockpile, I don’t think they’re a group we want to fuck with.

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    As much as I would want 1 to win, 3 would probably win.

    2 winning is laughable. We would have sooooo many drone videos of giant MAGAs frantically waddling away from bring droned, mobility scooters set to emergency power in vain… lots and lots of yellow in the aftermath videos.

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    I think 2 needs to remember that.

    And the rest of y’all need to remember OREGON would win out versus any state. It was voted on. If we had our way, the US would be Cascadia and it would be glorious. BWAHAHA

    I mean, yeah you got your butts kicked and it should have been worse! We still have to deal with BS from red welfare queen states-- learn the lesson already! >.>

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    Let’s do it, seriously y’all cost more than you’re worth, I will sign the petition. You’re embarrassing, reds

    No more money from New York and California, good luck you’re too dumb to even do the math womp womp

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      I was going to say you’re punish a bunch of left leaning people, but at this point maybe it’ll kick some of those so called moderates to actually choose a side that benefits them.

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      4 months ago

      Nor do I, but history rarely cares what the Common Man™️ wants. Get connected with your local community, and get involved in local politics. It’s more important now than ever before.

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        Yeah, it’s not common for people to get involved in their communities and with local politics. There’s like 30 of us in my city of a lot more than 30 that do both. If you want to influence things, you have to be extraordinary and following @[email protected]’s advice is a hell of a great start to getting there.

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      I think the people who call for civil war have no idea the abject horror of what they’re actually asking for