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    3 hours ago

    Trump is femme/queer coded as hell.

    The jazz hands, the makeup, the camp interior design.

    The beautiful younger wife whose main purpose is to symbolise traditional heteronormative stability, but clearly is not romantically involved.

    and yeah the ballroom

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    Imagine if Biden and the DNC had the brains to pick a capable woman with the actual skills to do the job instead of a genocidal failure who stood for nothing, can barely manage to stumble through a speech, and couldnt lead her way out of a paper bag! Its not like there arent plenty of capable women to do that job. The DNC screwed everyone with that and we lost to one of the lamest republicans anyone can imagine. The party is ready to implode at this point due to incompetence and bribery by genociders.

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      It’s by design. It’s not that they can’t find capable candidates in a population of 340+ million people, that would be rediculously incompetent. Their candidates are just exactly what the DNC wants: status quo. The DNC is nothing but conservative at this point, and they’d rather lose, than risk a socialist candidate who will break the status quo.

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      She was still a better pick than the turd in office right now. But Americans are too brainrotted to accept and correct their own failures.

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        you keep trying this “lesser of two evils” “lets court the middle” “strategy” and it never works. When will you learn this. Your strategy wont win future election, its practically designed to lose. The last time you tried you eroded the base in every measurable demographic except 1, did you even notice that? EVERYONE in the dems hates this approach.

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    Harris said she wouldn’t be any different than Biden, meaning she doesn’t have a spine and would have let Bibi Netanyahu and the Israeli government dog walk her with little pushback.

    Genocide is an unforgivable crime that must be rejected by everyone at every station in society.

    Fuck Joe Biden for not dropping from the race earlier and withholding primaries from us. Genocide Joe will earn his keep forever with that decision.

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      Yeah… Nevermind all the good shit people do… Lets focus 200% on this single issue and then vote for a convicted criminal with lots of rape accusations.

      The problem is that the right wing supported Trump (because they believed him). And, then, there were people on the left wing who attacked Harris, and drowned out their good policies.

      Either Harris nor biden are at fault. It’s people like you.

      So, instead of electing someone who is a bit shit, you elected someone who is 1200% shit

      Congrats on making racism a thing again worldwide.

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        I agree with what you’ve said but I don’t think this person actually voted Trump.

        If I were to guess, based on their message alone they probably didn’t vote, or cast it for some random with no chance.

        You could argue that not voting, or wasting the vote, is akin to voting for Trump. But regardless, I agree that people with the OPs mindset helped trump her elected and made everything worse for everyone… Except billionaires

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      Her support for genocide was certainly a glaring weakness, but what really lost her the election is that the majority of left-leaning voters are sick of status quo corporate policies. Democrats keep trying to court the Sunday brunch crowd, when the economy is so bad that the brunch crowd doesn’t even exist anymore. The Dems have alienated the left-wing so completely that they ran fucking Liz Cheney as VP. But even that strategy was stupid because why would right wingers vote for Republicans-lite?

      The veil is starting to fall on US politics, and the people starting to realize that American Democracy is a dream, not reality.

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        Democrats spent the 2024 Presidential Election courting Republicans, even far right Democrats, instead of banking on a populist leftist platform of people over profits.

        The ultimate manifestation of the base rejecting that ethos was in the Palestinian freedom movement.

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      Former President Biden failed in regard to the Middle East, but the MAGA fucknuts shit the bed on a greater scale.

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      That is pretty valid. Him not dropping out did rob us of our primaries and our choice. I wonder if that was their plan all along.

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    I live in USA as a non-citizen permanent resident. I cannot vote, hence I only watched that election from the sidelines. My personal theory is that the reason why Trump won over Harris in 2024 is because a large number of people wanted accountability and justice over crimes against humanity that happened under Biden, and which Harris seemed to fully support. But here we are, a year and a half into Trump 2.0, and yet absolutely nothing was done on that issue, while the orange man made life hell for those who live in post-sex-change bodies (I happen to be one), made the economy even worse, and started a new war of choice.

    Now bring on the downvotes…

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      Exactly. The pattern is:

      1. Liberals force through an unelectable candidate that cannot cater to American voters.
      2. Progressives point out, “hey, this candidate is unelectable, they’re going to lose. We should choose someone that isn’t awful.”
      3. Liberals scream, “Shut the hell up. We’re the adults in the room. They’re centrist; by definition are more electable!”
      4. Progressives hold their nose and vote for the liberal shit stain anyway.
      5. Liberal shit stain loses despite massively winning the progressive vote.
      6. Liberals spend the next four years blaming their failures on progressives.
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    Depends.

    Is this woman overtly bigoted and does she constantly demonize half of U.S. citizens?

    If so, then she’d have staunch support of all conservative voters regardless of what else she does.

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    Pretty sure that further impoverishing people and expanding the MIC was her platform too.

    Bi-partisan support for attacks on the oppressed.

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    21 hours ago

    Oh yes.

    Love it when people pretend that Democrats support something because they offered a sound byte. 🤟😎

    What mattered was that they didn’t do anything meaningful to solve the problem.

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      Exactly.

      Biden November 2020: “Vote for me, the other guy is a Nazi!” Biden January 2021: “I couldn’t possibly order the prosecution of my political opponent, best to just move on!” Harris November 2024: “Vote for me, the other guy is a Nazi!”

      Actions speak louder than words. If you don’t treat the Nazis like they’re actually Nazis, people will not believe you when you say the other guys are Nazis.

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      Nope. You’re wrong.

      2024 voters were like: “Why doesn’t this bitch acknowledge that the cost of living is killing us?”

      It’s that simple.

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        She did, Biden did too - that inflation wave after covid was inevitable after reopening from covid, and then they got it under control but for some reason everyone ignored that and voted for trump saying “lower prices on day one”

        Another one kamala had no platform besides not trump – also not true she talked about all her policies she has the website with like a thousand different policies – but nobody wanted to see that the media just made the election about trump.

        At the end of the day, trump is the president we deserve as a people, we love wrestling and crypto and gambling more than we love affordable housing and healthcare. Maybe not you specifically, and me certainly not, but the average american, that’s what they want. this whitehouse ufc event is gonna do bigger numbers than any Mayweather fight ever. That’s what the people chose.

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          “I have no empathy…no empathy.”

          “No you’re only getting 600 because we decided to include the last payments which ads up to $1,200 so we’re keeping our promise technically.”

          That’s pretty much what people remember about Biden’s concern for their financial woes.

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          Trump literally ran without a platform both times. The RNC basically said, “Whatever he wants is our platform.” So it’s understandable why Dems thought Kamala could get away without talking about the party’s platform. They were trying to match the vibes-based campaign model.

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            She talked about her platform a lot, if the media only highlighted a 15 second paragraph about trump, that’s not on her. That’s on the media and the people being obsessed with trump, positively or negatively.

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        Because anyone paying attention knows that Democrats are always better for our economy. So anyone bitching about the cost of living had a really easy decision to make in 2024.

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          Democrats may be better for traditional markers of the economy, but 50 years of neoliberalism from both parties has resulted in a K-shaped economy. One that is great if you already have wealth (which is what things like GDP and inflation tell you), but one that is terrible and getting worse if you are a regular person. Neither party has done anything to actually fix the systemic issues that caused this, so when status-quo Dems claim to be better for working people, we can all see that for the lie it is.

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          Her and her flying monkeys also gaslit the American people. There was very much a “speak no evil, hear no evil” head-in-the-sand attitude to her whole campaign. The campaign, and liberals on social media, just kept blindly parroting the official CPI figures. They would scream down and downvote to oblivion anyone who dared go against the party line, pointing out the well known flaws of the CPI measurement.

          Liberals believe in manifesting. It’s the “power of positive thinking” taken to the extreme, into the realm of toxic positivity. Their belief system is that if you believe a thing hard enough, and if you prevent anyone from saying anything to the contrary, the universe will conspire to make your desired reality come into being. If you shout down any negative criticism, you will win.

          That’s what the Harris campaign was like. It was horribly flawed. It had a number of campaign positions that made Harris completely unelectable. They tried to vibe their way to victory. Unfortunately, manifesting isn’t real, and they smacked right into the hard unyielding wall of reality.

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          “Concept of a plan” is way better than whatever was in the Dems election program.

          People can’t read, intelligence is on a normal distribution. You know where that poster above you is on that curve.

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              There was essentially no policy to help with cost of living. That’s what I’m trying to point out. That was one of the bullshit policies she was running with. And I fuckin voted for her lol

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                And I fuckin voted for her lol

                Good. You did the least stupid thing you could have done in the last election.

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                  Sometimes that’s the way you have to play the game.

                  Most voters decided to play it stupid. And now here we are.

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        Nope. You’re wrong.

        There’s alot of factors that led to where we are now.

        It’s not simple at all actually.

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            Yes. Let’s keep absolving voters for the most obvious voting blunder in American history.

            Let’s keep absolving voters for going with the twice impeached convicted felon and adjudicated rapist with one failed presidency under his belt instead of the highly educated non-criminal but admittedly milquetoast alternative.

            Voters don’t have any responsibility, right?

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            I mean Harris’ policy did explicitly address most of the concerns everyday Americans have but the overwhelming majority of them, including apparently you, don’t have any idea what her actual policies were, they just repeat what fox news told them to think.

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              I followed her campaign closely. The only policy she had was a first time homeowner credit that was written so almost no one would qualify for it, and it would have only served to bid home prices up even further.

              And clearly Harris’s policies did not meet the concerns of everyday Americans, as she lost to one of the least qualified candidates in American history.

              I know this is very painful to accept. But Trump actually spoke more to the issues of the American people than Harris did. Compare the messages:

              Trump: I will improve your standard of living by deporting millions of brown people. This will ease the housing supply and tighten the labor market, thereby helping the average white person.

              Harris: you’re imagining the inflation you’re experiencing. I don’t give a fuck about your opinions on Gaza; your voice doesn’t matter. Vote for me unless you want the Nazi to win.

              And then people wonder why she lost. Trump actually talked to the needs of the average voter. He had a concrete plan on how to help his base. That plan was evil and abominable, but he actually made a compelling case. Kamala didn’t even try.

              It turns out “I don’t give a shit about you, vote for me or the Nazi will win” is a strategy you can only pull so many times. It’s been the Democratic campaign message for every election for my whole adult life. And at this point it’s lost all effectiveness.

              The real problem was that you can’t run on the other guy being a Nazi after your side just refused to bring them to justice. Biden ran on “the other guy is a Nazi.” But once in power, he didn’t treat them like you’re supposed to treat Nazis. His campaign message was that Trump was a unique threat, but he treated them like ordinary political opposition once he was in office.

              Actions speak louder than words. Harris tried to run a campaign that was directly countered by Biden’s actions for the last four years. What was the average voter supposed to conclude but that Democrats were lying about Trump being a Nazi?

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                This is a condemnation of the average American. We failed an open book test and here you are saying it’s not our fault. Yeah buddy it is.

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                  I think you just like blaming voters. You’re demonstrating the same political proclivities as a Republican who blames the homeless for being homeless. After all, poor people should just pull themselves up by their bootstraps, right? If they’re poor, it’s their own fault. Why consider any other factors when we could just call lazy people lazy?

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              I haven’t watched Fox News since the early 90’s. Wanna cool up a new fantasy about who I am again? It’s very entertaining for me.

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          This isn’t the flex you think it is. You think you’re saying how much smarter you are to not be tricked but what you are really saying is your leaders can’t win without help from the people you despise.

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            I’m not flexing. I’m saying most Americans are incredibly stupid. I’m saying a full third of us are outright bigot fascists that actively want to say slurs in public and hate crime minorities. I’m saying another full third of us (you’re in this group) are too stupid or self absorbed to acknowledge that third party and non voters directly contribute to republicans getting elected. Of the remaining third, most don’t vote in Dem primaries so we have no progressive condition. I’m saying that the American Federal government is largely representative of the average American that is too stupid or mean to just vote in their own best interest (which yes for my entire life has meant explicitly voting democrat in every election). You are the American that has earned and deserves Trump. Reevaluate your priorities.

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              Whats a "D next to a candidates name even mean anymore? Besides limping a system along which doesnt care about any of my issues and sends my taxes to a nazi theocratic foreign country to shoot little starving kids in the head for sport. We need to keep all this going you are saying, cant allow it to change or fall apart?

              Yeah I’ll get right on that.

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              I voted for Harris, try again. I am at least willing to recognize where her campaign could have done better, because like you, I recognize we need those voters who went 3rd party (or stayed at home) in order to win. Unlike you, I hold leadership accountable for failing to inspire an electorate large enough to win.

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                Register if needed to vote in the primaries and get everyone you know to do that too and always vote for progressives in the primaries. That’s how you hold leadership accountable, by gaining the actual power to replace it. The democratic party is not a coalition of leftists and progressives. It’s a big tent party filled with everyone from nazi adjacent to the closest thing to a socialist American politics can muster. If all us leftists and progressives actually fuckin voted and otherwise engaged in the electoral process we’d have an actual opposition party. Till then the political reality is that every vote that isn’t for a democrat is explicitly for maga, and repeating fox news criticisms of democrats helps elect republicans.

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                  I vote in the primaries but last I checked there was no primary for POTUS in the last election cycle. And no, repeating valid criticisms of democrats does not automatically mean you are helping Republicans win. To think that requires a staggering amount of cynicism towards voters that one wonders why you are even trying to reason with said voters

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              I voted for Harris, I’m not campaigning for her literally years after the election though like you are, only a literal pedophile would do that.

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                You are a petulant child that is complaining that they didn’t have the choice they wanted, years after the fact.

                I don’t campaign for anyone. My beliefs prohibit me from joining a political party. I vote for the lesser evil, as I understand that is the best option I’m going to have.

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                  YES BECAUSE THERE IS ANOTHER ELECTION IN 5 FUCKING MONTHS AND ANOTHER ONE IN TWO YEARS BOTH OF WHICH YOU PEOPLE ARE ALREADY GIVING UP ON BY SUGGESTING WE DO THE EXACT SAME THING AND ELECT MORE PEDOPHILES.

                  Because you fucking people ‘vote for the lesser evil.’ It doesn’t work. It’s never worked. Things didn’t get better under Obama or Biden. Things got quieter for the middle class Americans that ‘just want to be at brunch.’

                  Just fucking stop voting for the lesser evil. Vote for the policies you actually fucking want regardless of what colour tie the person has. Congrats you’re actually doing a democracy at that point. What you people are advocating for is objectively not democracy, it’s a dictatorship.

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              Anyone supporting Harris actively this many months later is objectively a pedophile. That is the only possible excuse there could be to support a genocidal politician who actively defended child rapists and killers with her policies.

              “oh but there was no other choice” that does not change today. That does not change right now. Voting under duress for the slightly better option does not give you the right nor encouragement to keep supporting a literal monster years later like you have some type of better morality. You don’t. Anyone that supported the Harris/Biden regime is objectively a nazi. Yes, so are Magats, you’re not special for pointing that out.

              Vote quietly when you’re backed into a corner and then never fucking admit it. Dont support the pedophile for fucking years because you think you would be slightly better off (while everyone else would be just as fucked).

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              Some of the non voting idiots keep trying to claim the moral high ground, by claiming that by not voting they opposed the genocide perpetrated by the Israeli government.

              Of course that ignores the fact that they default voted for Trump by not voting.

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            When you do work to get republicans elected, like you’re doing right now, then yes it’s your fault explicitly. Being too stupid to understand that cause and effect does not absolve you of your responsibility.

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        It’s ironic that you can’t resist using misogynistic language even as you deny misogyny was a factor.

        Imagine someone denying race was a factor while calling her the nword.