I was thinking about this the other day - I saw the movie and I know what a Navi is, but I can’t recall a single memorable quote or name a character. There is no memorable SNL sketch except the one masking fun of the Papyrus font. There is no fandom, there is nothing
The fauna was beautiful and well-thought out EXCEPT for the Navi because four-armed, collar breathing bipeds would probably won’t feel human enough for the target audience
I don’t want to undersell the design or technical achievements of the films. They are truly beautiful and it’s clear where the budget went. Other than being pretty to look at and inspiring a Disney Park, what is the cultural impact?
For contrast, Kevin Smith made a movie for the cost of a car that people still quote 30 years later.
I do remember a few notable scenes, one being him jumping onto the massive bird.
I remember sex scene that overlaps with bird bonding in a very unusual way.
I’m just focusing on the fleshlight in the back…
Nahh! Another cultural impact is, that if you are one with natur it is acceptable to put your tentacle thingies into your girl, pull out, and into an animal it goes. You can even force it into a bird and people will like you for it. I newer saw them wash it after pulling out of an animal, probably it went straight back into the girl off screen.
Wait what
Did you not watch the movies? He is just describing the movie.
I did not. Dubya tee eff
I guess I need to watch Avatar.
It’s cultural impact is the idea that it so remarkably didn’t have one
These are movies you only want to watch in the theatre with 3D, and cultural impact requires the youth to obsessively re-watch the media at home.
It was just Pocahontas with aliens.
It was just Fern Gully but CG.
It was just Dances with Wolves, but blue, and no wolves
It was a mediocre movie, that didn’t deserve a single sequel, but Cameron has the juice to force anything.
I didn’t realize Zuckerberg was in it
And it’s fucking great for it.
Ive seen a lot about avatar in the last few days. Is it just one guy with a problem with it or something?
Is it just one guy with a problem with it or something
Its the far right again, they hate anything with empathy. Theres not a lot of news about this but the Bluey TV shoe gets a lot of hate from them too, and for the same reason.
But pretty CGI
i once got 3rd place in an avatar trivia competition on a modded minecraft server
i still have not received my prize
What was the prize suppose to be?
peanut? at the same time?
I really feel like the vast majority of people misunderstand these movies. They are visual feasts, made specifically to be pretty and push tech used for movies further along. I have never seen anything from Cameron or anyone else involved say otherwise. They aren’t trying to be story telling masterpieces, they are popcorn flicks that you go to the biggest and best cinema to see and just be wowed by the spectacle. And I really enjoy them for that, seen all three in cinemas, biggest and best screens with 3d in my city. Had a blast every time, it’s all about knowing what you’re watching and why.
exactly. expectation determines your enjoyment. movies often get slammed for doing exactly what they were trying to do.
Jason Statham movies won’t move you emotionally, horror movies won’t make sense, just watch it for what it is
And that’s perfectly fine if you like that kind of movie. But people who don’t like that kind of movie have no reason to watch these
But that’s the whole point. The highest-grossing movie of all time was a popcorn flick with zero cultural impact. That’s exactly what this meme is saying. How are people misunderstanding this?
We’re talking about it now.
So you’re saying Avatar had cultural impact because it made it to front page of lemmy this one time? Great point.
The cultural impact of it is what it caused though ripple effect.
The MCU for example would have literally been impossible if not for avatar. Avatar basically shunted the entire industry forward 20 years in one go on the technical front.
Took every skilled artisan that was even remotely related to the arts. And gave them a functionally unlimited budget and told to just go ham.
Then actual story being told for the audience wasn’t a priority or the point.
The point was a project for the industry, a project to push the industry forward.
Selling the final product was frankly entirely just a means to the end. To recoup the cost and then do it again.
That’s why it’s basically just the most complicated retelling of Pocahontas ever done.
Technical impact != cultural impact.
What you’re describing is not cultural impact. You’re just confirming it didn’t have any cultural impact, only technical one.
Okay, yes, true, but they also constructed the entire N’avi language, created a fuckton of lore about the planet, and thoroughly fleshed out the lore and design of Earth and its voyage to and from Pandora.
This wasn’t a visual feast made for the viewer, this was a feast made to employ all these skilled artisans in a massive production, and EVERYONE except the writers fucking blew it out of the water.
I was entertained, it was pretty, it pushed for better facial animations. Other than that it’s no real major impact.
it pushed for better facial animations
It genuinely pushed for a lot of technical achievements. Knowledge/skills that will be able to improve future films. Sure, the Avatar films may not be good films on their own. But they are being used to develop technologies which will make for better films from other people who actually want to make good films.
eh. I think cameron’s masturbating.
he’s just pushing stuff around and making nifty bits and bobs, but there’s none of the genius that was present in terminator, aliens, the abyss, etc., it does advance the tech but in no way meaningfully and the vast majority of the big advancements are too expensive for smaller creators to leverage.
but there’s none of the genius that was present in terminator, aliens, the abyss
T2 was just the start, beginning with the morph CGI.
the Cinema version if “this meeting should have been an email”
“This movie should have been a 5 minute tech demo”
I remember avatar being really pretty, and then realizing as the credits rolled that if what they said about unobtainium is true, that it’s a room temperature semiconductor and that these are the only proven deposits of it, and that the Earth is a dying planet that needs unobtanium to stay habitable for billions and billions of people, RDA would probably just throw a big rock at Pandora and comb through the rubble. Us or them.
