Should’ve advertised that the band is going to rage against democrats, mainstream media, and they’d have plenty of antisemitic (just term it as “anti-zionist”) conspiracy theories in their songs and there would be a whole lot of “leftists” that would sign up.
Is there something you’re trying to say? Because your point is sounding pretty stupid.
I’m saying “leftists” are part of the same machine they pretend to rage against. For fascism to take hold, it needs to destroy political opposition (democrats) discredit the free press and it needs enemies to hate.
Leftists are are useful idiots of the fascist machine.
Democrats are controlled opposition paid by the exact same donors as the openly fascist republicans. Just because they don’t want to actively kick out brown people and take basic rights does not meant that they aren’t perfectly willing to continue those policies elsewhere.
There is no true opposition party in the US because it is a dual party system meaning there will always be an “underdog opposition” fighting for a silent majority which magically never appears.
What does get people active is real opposition politics, not stale milquetoast Democratic walk-back policies meant to appease the republicans.
Blaming the Dems consistent failures on “leftists” as if everyone left of the dems is some cohesive entity is not only a strawman argument, but is actively covering for their failures and willingness to participate as the neo-liberal wing of this fascist empire.
Its victim blaming at its finest, demonizing those who call for our politicians to do better and actually serve the people.
Wow you’re really dedicated to attacking the political opposition to fascism. Been consuming a lot of media coming from “leftists” that have been recommended to you by the big tech companies?
Have you been listening to Hasan? I see he’s currently on the front page of twitch.tv, a company which is owned by Jeff Bezos.
Yeah, you’re totally not part of the machine at all LOL.
I’m so far removed from the talking heads youve got shoved up your ass you’d be amazed. There are maybe 5 fucking dems that are barely opposition, the rest a bunch if pussies and moderates you dick turd.
Keep repeating the things big tech wants you to repeat over and over again.
“Political opposition is bad, free press is bad, apathy is good!” Who do you think benefits from that message being repeated over and over again?
You’re just carrying water for the fascists. That’s what happens when you get all of your talking points from monetized “leftist” influencers.
Literally you right now.
Yet another leftist call to apathy.
You could… I dunno vote in a primary and change the Democratic party. But that would require effort and the monetized “leftist” influencers promoted big tech companies discourage that, and you believe them.
I’m sorry that the Israeli governments murder, torture, and genocide of Palestinians is so abhorrent that people point it out occasionally. That must be very hard for you to be reminded of the fact that the IDF bombs hospitals and uses sexual violence as a tool of terror. It must be awful knowing that children are dying so that Bibi can keep his dick hard.
Tell me you missed the entire point of RATM without telling me you missed the entire point of RATM.
Rage with the Machine?
Slave to the machine.
They have a machine their raging against, Social Justice and respecting minorities.
Tread on me harder, daddy.
Rage Against the Rage Against the Machine
rage type songs
Page of the Regime
Already too clever.
I’m laughing at the way this guy seems to think he’s come up with an original idea. There are hundreds of conservative, neofascist punk bands out there. And normal people have never heard of them because they all sound like fucking shit.
Neofascist AND Punk??? How in the hell does that make sense to them???
I think that’s been a thing since like the 80s or 90s, in the UK first and then here. Not all punk but the scene got filled with nazi types back then, according to things I’ve seen on like tv idk specifically.
i compare that to these nazi punks: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_punk
See how nazi coopted skinhead culture -
https://allthatsinteresting.com/skinheads-history
It not too wildly different to how it works today… Gamergate being a great example.
Oh, that makes sense now.
“Fuck you not gonna respect black people”
Conspire With the Machine sounds hella lame.
Rape for the Machine.
Gets the right energy.
“i hate what globalists did to this country that’s why i voted for donald trump!”
Their debut album tracklist;
- Diffusedtrack
- Dying in the name of (America)
- Left the power to him (Trump)
- Leaving for something (America)
- Bullet in the head (of Joe Biden)
- Ignore your allies
- Sleep
- Fistful of Microplastics
- Township Compliance
- Freedom (Isn’t free)
Bonus track: (Don’t) Testify
globalists
This person is so close.
Billionaires. They hates billionaires, and what they’re doing to the planet. He/she just doesn’t realize it yet.
Maybe they will if they starts writing lyrics and one song ends up eerily close to RATM.
When people say globalists, they mean Jews.
Maybe the right means that. Here in the real world, we mean wall street, shipping all of our factory jobs to other low cost countries to exploit their workforce and undercut wage and environmental laws. But don’t let me get in the way of you stroking off the democrats that betrayed us and embraced globalism and allowed the president to do an end run around them on trade.
don’t let me get in the way of you stroking off the democrats
Shocking that your real point revolves around getting Republicans elected
By keeping establishment democrats in charge you guarentee the republicans will win. How do you not get that?
But no, keep blaming the voters for rejecting the candidates with the platforms they’ve made clear for decades they will reject and only grudgingly choose every other time only as a rejection of the other party. Feel free to get worse every cycle and coast off of browbeating everyone into voting for the less bad option, even though we know that won’t reliably win, and republicans are planning on fixing elections, meaning they only have (had, thanks pal,) to win once.
What is the word for when you keep doing the same thing expecting different results? That seems to describe you here. As you pass the blame for doomed to fail strategies to justify keeping those same people in power to fail again, in perhaps the last chance before elections are fixed beyond recall, and make no mistake, they already are fixed beyond whatever milquetoast democrat playing to a mythical center voter that wants to get fucked by corporations but with crumbs allocated to them and kinder words.
Maybe you can run with Liz Cheney as VP!
I already tagged you as a third party supporter weeks ago. No need to further prove you are a useful idiot for Republicans and therefore opposite to everything you transparently lie about believing.
Who gives a fuck what you think?
It’s been really fun, pretending with you that you don’t have insidious ulterior motives, but I grow tired of this bullshit. Blocked.
You. That would be the reason you keep badgering me about your inalienable right to speak like an antisemite
You manage to be on the exact same page, yet completely miss the point.
This person is so close.
I hate to say it, but you are “this person”. Nobody is glorifying democrats here. There are rich fucks, and there are poor people suffering the consequences. Period.
Tis you missing the point. The person I responded to just condemned everyone opposing globalists, and globalism, as anti jewish, because the far right co-opted anti globalism and identified jews as the culprits, rather than Wall Street, and big money.
Globalism, globalists, is not synonomous with “jews” at all, and that type of reactionary response, to defend or reject completely something unfairly attacked or supported by the right, is what loses credibility, and furthers captured interests remaining captured.
When the republicans want to make the fda worse, and attack them for whatever, we (you,) will defend everything about the fda, even though in reality we know they have for decades been run by pharma board members and executives and lobbyists that have ratfucked them for 40 years. Defend against unfair attacks, don’t defend their fact free campaigns to schedule a plant with demonstrably false arguments, and the like.
Likewise the far right conflating the abuses of wall street in globalism with jews shouldn’t lead you to support wall street’s globalism. Oppose the incorrect conflation of globalism with one group of people when it’s many groups of big monied interests.
It’s about too dumb to have to argue, which makes sense since you didn’t actually make a reasoned argument but a rather nonsensical refutation of an ill defined point.
Literally never heard a single person use that term who wasn’t an Alex jones psycho and they definitely mean Jews when they say it. Even reading your messages here expanding on this, it feels like a fever dream describing positions no one actually holds. I’ve heard a lot of different viewpoints and this is a first for me.
Bottom line, you need a new term. You don’t get to speak the language of racist conspiracy wack jobs and then blame everyone else for noticing.
You have no idea what you are talking about, globalism has been used for 30 years, and there were huge left protests in Seattle and elsewhere as such.
Bottom line, you think you know things without having learned them, meaning you have no credibility, and that you can be tooled by malign interests to manipulate your fellow citizens to ill outcomes.
Bottom line, you think you know things without having learned them, meaning you have no credibility, and that you can be tooled by malign interests to manipulate your fellow citizens to ill outcomes.
Weird to end a comment by directly addressing yourself, but good on your for recognizing
You don’t get to speak the language of racist conspiracy wack jobs and then blame everyone else for noticing.
Again, I don’t think we disagree. It is a complex topic, and one worth talking about, especially within circles that should generally unite against common enemies.
There are people who use globalist as a dogwhistle to mean global Jewish conspiracy bullshit, dating back to the original Nazis.
There are people, like attac, Occupy Wallstreet and so on, that used and use globalism in its economical meaning in order to criticise the current system of exploitation and speculation.
There are people that intentionally try to paint the second kind of people as antisemites, especially if they dare to call out Israel, in order to discredit them.
There are people that intentionally try to infiltrate arguments in order to make people support antisemitism and to make it seem that antisemitism is a valid opinion.
I don’t really know why you dragged the Democrats in here. I’m not even from the US, from my point of view, large parts of the Democrats are a turbo-capitalist right-wing party that happen to have a handful of progressive social values. Obviously, the Republicans are fascists in everything but their lack of trains and Mediterranean food.
He/she just doesn’t realize it yet.
Sure? Maybe the left doesn’t realize that the right is fighting the same enemy and the hatred for the right is seeded by the billionaires to prevent the workers from fighting together?
The left is realizing that. The problem is that the right isn’t.
The left doesn’t look to me as if they would try with the highest priority to develop a mutual understanding so that joining forces would be possible.
On that we agree.
Globalist is code word for Jews in case you didn’t know.
