• Eternal192@anarchist.nexus
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    6 months ago

    They were ok, can’t say they were supermodels but looked ok, however their transformation into a skinsuit is horrifying.

  • zr0@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    6 months ago

    Those are some brave women. I would shit my pants each morning if I would see a monster like this in the mirror.

    • CallMeAnAI@lemmy.world
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      6 months ago

      Terrible take.

      You’ll the up paid more and have more confidence. Like everything, you can take it too far and have it become a problem.

      • MisterFrog@lemmy.world
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        6 months ago

        I dunno about you, but having a society where self image is pay-to-win isn’t one we ought to be encouraging.

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          6 months ago

          Well you do, and unless you can accelerate the human race beyond where we are is already been a thing for a long ass time.

          Humans treat pretty and confident people better.

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            6 months ago

            Humans treat pretty and confident people better.

            Yes, though not sure how adding wealth is a good thing

    • Zozano@aussie.zone
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      6 months ago

      I mean, you’re probably not wrong, but also a lot of cosmetic surgery is due to toxic cultural expectations, most of it landing on women.

      Not to imply that ghouls can’t be women, but it’s nice to see politicians openly supporting Fallout (season 2).

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          6 months ago

          No, it’s definitely the culture telling most women they need to look pretty. Most women don’t have someone constantly saying, “gee you’re ugly without makeup”. It’s just implied by marketing and campaigns and Hollywood glamour expectations the culture soaks up.

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            6 months ago

            You misread the parent comment. They only struck through half of the word cultural, to leave “cult”.

          • Afaithfulnihilist@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            6 months ago

            Yea that’s is still mental illness.

            Wanting to fit in with people you don’t associate with is kind of weird to begin with. Risking your health and welfare so that you can look like a burn victim is a fucking bizarre bit of mental calculus that seems to indicate something is miswired.

            • MotoAsh@piefed.social
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              6 months ago

              I agree the plastic surgery stuff is just crazy. Though the unrealistic beauty standards are definitely a cultural thing. It’s only ever going to be a cultural thing under capitalism, whre what ever expectation, realistic or not, that is most ‘pretty’ will be used in advertisements. It basically guarantees saturation of unrealistic expectations.

          • sunbrrnslapper@lemmy.world
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            6 months ago

            I don’t know what other women hear, but I get a lot of “you look tired today” when we don’t wear make up - and it was worse before it started Botox/filler. I don’t think people even know that they are pushing the culture.

            • Rekorse@sh.itjust.works
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              6 months ago

              Thats only because there’s a big difference between no make up and make up. Makeup also specifically hides signs of being tired. Its a matter of expectation, but one that you set yourself.

              • sunbrrnslapper@lemmy.world
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                6 months ago

                I don’t know your experience with makeup, being tired and aging… I get the sense that people (often men) cannot tell the difference between tired and aging. Makeup hides both. I don’t get the comments often from women very often. So I am assuming they are able to see the nuance (or have the tact to not say something).

            • MotoAsh@piefed.social
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              6 months ago

              Who sets those expectations? I hope it’s not your boss, personally telling you to wear makeup. I hope it’s not a husband or SO telling you you need to wear makeup to be presentable.

              I’d say it’s very obvious that the flippant comments are informed by culture, and not yours or their personally set expectations. (I mean, unless you have an asshole boss that does try to set expectations, but I’m not hearing that in what was said so far)

              • sunbrrnslapper@lemmy.world
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                6 months ago

                I’m my boss and my husband prefers no makeup, so I’m in the clear there. 😁

                I hear it from clients, store clerks, or other random people I interact with. It’s the new “you should smile more” for me.

    • kittenzrulz123@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      6 months ago

      It is important to remember there can be a medical reason for cosmetic surgery (or someone might be trans), but generally speaking yeah

    • a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world
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      6 months ago

      It’s like most science fiction revolving around this particular topic. The ostentatious need to show off this sort of perverse wrecking of somebody’s skin and face is meant to signal something. This is a modern version of being fat to show that you have wealth.

      It’s meant to show that you have the disposable income to become whatever version of beautiful Trump wants. In this case it’s seeking out Eastern European features one faces that otherwise wouldn’t house them.

      And why everything looks like a goddamn clown mask. They’ve gone too far too fast and with too much modification. Welcome to repo the genetic opera or so many other stories.

  • pyre@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    Recently saw a video from an ex-maga, ex-mormon woman who speaks about these people and it was specifically about this face. she said they look like that because they’re doing drag. i see it. it’s performative gender expression.

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      6 months ago

      What interests me is that I’ve never once heard an actual explanation. “They’re doing drag” might be true in an analytical sense from an outside perspective. But it’s not the reason they do it.

      One would assume the reason you start is because you’re encouraged to get some Botox and subtle touch-ups are a very beauty trend among women. But they all end up with very similar features and it’s always overdone. So there must be common pushes and pulls. I would just like to hear it in their own words what has led them to this.

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        6 months ago

        I can say as someone who’s seen similar things in different groups it’s body dysmorphia. You focus on a flaw you want to fix enough to pay to get it fixed and it’s better, but if you don’t have discipline about it you’re prone to still see it. It’s similar to anorexia where they go from seeing fat that may or may not be there to seeing the torso bulge of having organs and thinking that it’s fat.

        Then there’s social factors. If your social group has worries, well humans tend to echolocate reality off what those around us think and say, so you’re prone to the same worries and the same solutions.

      • andros_rex@lemmy.world
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        6 months ago

        It’s more that they do what drag typically mocks - that kind of hyper performance of feminine conformity. Classic drag has always been mocking the way that conservative women perform gender roles.

        It’s supposed to look like they got work done, because it reflects their commitment to the idea that women should be always performing “woman.” Women are meant to be looked at by powerful men, and they are acceding to that understanding.

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          6 months ago

          Again, I agree with you, you basically repeated and expanded on the point of the person I replied to. Like what you’re giving me is a good anthropological analysis.

          But if you asked these women why/how they got to this point they would not say “well I’m just commiting to my performance of being a woman to appease the male gaze”

          For one thing, most of them probably still hold agency to themselves despite the fact that it seems clear they are doing this to appease men. They would most likely have explanations for all their changes and who/what influenced them.

          A terrifying probability is that these women literally get told by their spouses/others that if they don’t get these specific surgeries they won’t be able to do something. If it’s that then I would like to know who specifically tells them this and what they tell them.

      • djdarren@piefed.social
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        6 months ago

        It’s the right wing Christian Tradwife thing, isn’t it? They have to prove how very womanly they are, and how lucky their husband is to have such a womanly woman.

  • Echo Dot@feddit.uk
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    6 months ago

    What is with these people. Have they headbutt bees nest?

    These images need saving for prosperity just in case future generations doubt the craziness of the MAGA loons.

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    6 months ago

    I have seen so many lip fillers that look ick… but of course they’re only the ones I noticed; do they ever look good?

    Maybe the MAGA association will be enough to squash the habit for a while.

    • potoooooooo 🥔@lemmy.world
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      6 months ago

      I imagine a lot of it probably looks pretty good with a light touch. Like teeth whitening. A little might be nice, but when those shits start emitting their own light, it’s creepy looking.

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      6 months ago

      I think that’s a no, once you are 40 or so. The whole face kind of drops (everyone, not just ladies, that’s why you see the bottom teeth when The Rock smiles now - being in great shape doesn’t change this) and if you fill the top lip it ends up looking sneery because the shape is wrong. You would have to get the whole expensive and brutal face lift to move everything up first.

      On really young people it can work ok IMO.

      And overall I agree that GOOD work you don’t really see, all the relentless skincare I do works but nothing will keep you from moving through time. Celebrities who just look good and like they haven’t had work done have had face-lifts.