• pelespirit@sh.itjust.works
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    11 months ago

    I’m locking this. I removed an entire thread of comments because I understand how both sides could think they’re right and it’s getting reported. No one is banned.

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    11 months ago

    If she thinks I’m not atleast seeing the tiddies before I commit treason she has another thing coming.

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      11 months ago

      jokes on her, the intel she’s digging for i leaked on war thunder already

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      11 months ago

      Of course not. It’s the evil foreigners what done it. Americans couldn’t just air their dirty laundry through ineptitude and need for validation.

      Young, female, Asian. It’s everything Andrew Tate warned us about. Amazed we let anyone like that over the border.

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          11 months ago

          How can this not be sarcastic? Has Andrew Tate actually warned about Asians?

          If people take everything at face value it’s no wonder that Trump succeeds with making America great again. He says so, it must be true, let’s vote for him.

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            I’d argue it’s rather healthy for americans to not just assume that someone spouting rhetoric is being sarcastic. That attitude of extending the benefit of the doubt to people undeserving of it got us into this mess in the first place.

            (Tho in this case, it’s not that people don’t realize they’re being sarcastic - it’s that what they’re saying with that sarcasm is really, really off the mark, and they’re being incredibly shitty in how they said it)

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              I don’t get it. What does he say? Americans don’t seek the fault at themselves and have racial, age and gender prejudices.

              If that hurts, it’s time to do some soul searching. How is that offensive to a wrong person?

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                Yeah that’s exactly the problem - it’s a meme criticizing ourselves for being too stupid not to simp out classified info to a pretty girl. The girl isn’t the one being called out here, it’s a joke about how frequently US contractors are caught doing this because of how dumb and uncontrollably horny they are.

                Being called racist or sexist in response to a meme making a much more nuanced and cutting critique (especially one expressed in such a truly disgusting way) doesn’t wound the ego or anything, it’s just fuckin’ annoying.

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                  11 months ago

                  Being called racist or sexist in response

                  It only addresses the people who blame the girl. You don’t do that, you shouldn’t feel offended.

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        Only four of the seventeen warthunder leaks have been about American equipment (and one manual for the export model of the F-15E (that IIRC was specifically the Saudi version? It was a whole thing at one point)).

        It seems likely that this meme is a reference to how fucking notoriously US diplomatic staff in china absolutely cannot keep it in their pants (note that it’s specifically about staff in china, we’re the ones crossing the borders here). I dunno, this doesn’t seem like “blaming foreigners” when it’s such a problem there has to be a public policy to combat dipshit american diplomats falling for it.

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          I don’t get it. Like I’m a slut too, but I’ve never considered talking about work with people I’m sleeping with in a foreign country, even if it’s not defense work.

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            You should see some of my DMs - if they’re horny enough, people will say anything to keep an attractive person interested in talking to them.

            Hey defense nerds! If you have information about the specific makeup of current-gen Chobham armor, I will 100% fly to you and let you pound my ass in exchange for it (been curious about that one for years now, warthunder has been disappointingly unforthcoming…)

            (side note: 98% of my interactions on lemmy have been great, but wow that 2%)

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                Oh yeah, the only fun parts of reddit were the few friends I made and the mountain of horror stories I collected. Lemmy is so so much better right now, my god.

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              That brings back memories of some of the unhinged comments I would get when I posted nudes on a different site (not why I stopped, I just don’t really have a good place to post for sapphic focused content rn). I guess I’ve just always known I’m desirable enough to keep people I’m interested in talking to me and to understand that while other internet exhibitionists may very much enjoy chatting, rping, and other fun stuff it’s inherently casual and the best way to keep getting attention is to figure out what the person I’m chatting with is hoping to get out of it (usually interesting conversation involving effort).

              To summarize: the naked lady on the internet is not going to date you, but you can have fun with it. Don’t make it weirder than she wants, you just get blocked. Also git gud.

              And if you want a specific warthunder leak you just gotta make bold and incorrect statements about it on their forums. Though I hear providing coke in Vegas in something skimpy can get you far more classified information than you think.

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                Trying to explain to my boss why the feds are there asking questions about a picture of my tits with “silica-manganese doped ceramics are terrible at defeating kinetic penetrators” scrawled across them…

                (Big mood about sapphic content though, some folks really struggle to accept not being the target audience. Lemmy really isn’t big enough yet to support an actual girl4girl community, but I have hopes that one day…)

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                  Listen, somebody has to make HR earn their paycheck…

                  (And yeah that’s where I am with it. I appreciate how sapphic lemmy is, but idk if it has enough community for such a community, and even if it does, I’ve moderated far too much of the internet to ever create a lemmy community)

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            Is the internet maturing?

            No, you just stumbled upon a fringe where the signal/noise ratio is slightly better.

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            Sure you’re the most notorious troll on lemmy, but this is such obvious shit-stirrin’ that it feels… idk, kinda beneath you?

            “I don’t know why this deeply unpopular comment was downvoted, they seem totally reasonable to me” it’s just so straightforward. lacks the élan your comments usually have.

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            Your conclusion is that it’s always getting blamed on the chinese, and your evidence is an extremely famous series of scandals that did not involve china…?

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    The irony being all the Defense contractors on here that upvoted, saying “heh, boobs do be like that,” and there’s some website that tracks who votes how on Lemmy, thus revealing a short list of maybes.

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        Due to the federated nature of Lemmy, and the need to prevent one account voting multiple times, and the ActivityPub protocol it’s all built on… all votes are effectively public, though Lemmy does try to obscure this a bit. But anyone can set up an instance, link to other instances, and be sent all the votes and who did them.

        Lucky for you there is a site https://lemvotes.org/ that saves you this hassle, it’s in the form of looking up votes for a post rather than bulk data.

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        11 months ago

        I’d wager just a few bored glowies… but with Utah’s processing power and “AI”, probably none until something gets flagged, then a contractor might be called in.

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          with all the communism and antifascism going on in here, i bet we’d be very flagged real soon if we aren’t already.

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    11 months ago

    And then the twelve colonies are destroyed in a surprise attack.

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    that actually happened to one of my acquaintances a couple of years ago. hooked up with some girl at drone convention and she got arrested shortly afterwards for spying. he saw none of it - just got informed later on that he was about to get the honeypot treatment due to his work. dude was so scared he went ballistic on his digital footprint and won’t even talk to you if there’s any mic’ed device in his vicinity. if i ever saw a man “scared shitless” that was it

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      I don’t think so, i mean, i get why it looks racist. but China is a geopolitical foe of the US, and they do use honeypots like this for gathering intel, and Chinese people do generally look Asian, for the most part.

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            11 months ago

            Really? You really don’t see the race angle of assuming Asian women are government honeypots? You understand that there’s a reason it’s not a white woman in the photo right?

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              Why can’t you just give me a straight answer? I know what yellow peril is and this doesn’t strike me as that.

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            Well, the person in the picture is a random artist. Do you not agree that putting her picture here as an example of a Chinese honeypot, just because she looks Asian and is pretty, has a race angle?

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                The first paragraph from the Wikipedia entry for Yellow Peril says:

                “The Yellow Peril (also the Yellow Terror, the Yellow Menace, and the Yellow Specter) is a racist color metaphor that depicts the peoples of East and Southeast Asia as an existential danger to the Western world.”

                Do you really not see how using a random person of Asian background as a stand in for the dangers of Chinese influence has a “yellow peril race angle”? Maybe ask yourself why that is, because the connection is apparent to any impartial observer. Would you feel any different if, hypothetically, it was a picture of your sister decrying the dangers of an equivalent ‘white peril’? Come on now, you’re being dense on purpose.

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    what’s to stop one from benefiting from the honey pot, but feeding them false information?

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      The honeypot idea probably does rely at least in part on you not knowing that’s what it is so, if you for some reason thought that was happening then… Nothing is stopping you. I guess you could operate on the assumption at all times but that’s going to be difficult especially when they’re trying to extract the information from you in a way that doesn’t seem like they’re trying to do that so you’d have to maintain your facade and chicken feed story in response to even the most banal things that don’t seem like they’re probing. There’s also the fact that you would now be aware of the forces you’re dealing with and also the potential blowback to you if you’re wrongly suspected of colluding or being less smart than you in fact are.

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      I used to work for a large defense contractor as a consultant. The best way to damage China would have been to let the spies see everything and hope they implemented the same fucked-up shit over there.

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      Describe the technical specifics of your job in a way that misleads them as to the actual information you’re working with, but that won’t be immediately obvious to an expert that’s potentially even more familiar with the source material you’re working with than you are.

      It’s just hard to keep that kind of lie going - it’s not impossible, but fooling someone with an entire intelligence agency requires a whole lot of both luck and planning.

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        it is case-dependent. not every honeypot operation is about gaining intelligence. some are just to discredit someone.