the “cheese” is freeze dried tofu, cashew butter, corn starch, nutritional yeast, soy milk, and vinegar

i live in nyc so i’m expecting the nypd to break down my door and arrest me for committing a hate crime against the entire Italian diaspora any minute now

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    21 days ago

    I mix olive oil with nutritional yeast and add some onion and garlic powder + salt and white pepper. It’s quite good! Adding vegan cooking cream will make the taste smoother. I also prefer to dribble the sauce here and there or use spoonfuls instead of spreading evenly. Definitely better than some of the cheese alternatives!

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    21 days ago

    Godspeed and good luck. You’ll need it!

    Less silly, I’ve heard how hard it is to get vegan cheese into any sort of tasty category. Wonder what it is about dairy that’s so difficult?

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      21 days ago

      You can do pretty well by introducing lactobacillus to very thin silken tofu and then aging it like normal cheese, but that’s something that would really be better at a commercial scale and afaik, it’s not really on the market yet.

      I live in Germany and they’ve absolutely nailed vegan cream cheese and have okay vegan shredded melting cheese, but I visited the us last year and the vegan cheese situation was dire. There might be gems out there that I missed, but everything was so expensive and tasted so hollow

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        20 days ago

        is it like, all of the vegan cream cheeses are good or is it that one brand really figured it out and dominates the market (if so which brand as i have not eaten vegan cream cheese and if i’m gonna stay on top of the food chain i better get on it)

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      21 days ago

      Keep in mind that there are thousands of cheeses, all with varying methods of being made so trying to emulate any specific kind is going to be extremely difficult.

      Mozzarella, gouda, and queso for example are frequently melted but parmesan and blue cheese would make terrible substitutes for any of those three. Trying to replace any of those with some other substitute is like replacing zucchini with cucumber. Sure, they might look similar but the taste and texture are going to be off.

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    21 days ago

    I’m not vegan but do you mind a suggestion? Instead of trying to “hack” a substitute for the cheese, you could try a similar recipe that doesn’t use it.

    Like focaccia. A well made focaccia is amazing, and you can make it with vegan only toppings: dried tomatoes, mushrooms, sliced and smoked seitan, figs, onions, some rosemary, and coarse salt. And lots of good quality olive oil.

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      21 days ago

      I was never a huge fan of cheese, and cheese substitutes or at least the ones that i tried are so much worse. Some of them taste well enough, but have a consistency that makes my skin crawl. So i just do no cheese and it’s so much better imo.

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        21 days ago

        I’m not vegan but I was at a dinner party once and accidentally picked the vegan cheese platter instead of the normal one. It can’t be that bad, I remember thinking.

        It was. I don’t mind vegan food, there’s a lot I like, but I think they would’ve been better off making something different instead of trying to imitate cheese.

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          20 days ago

          I’ve had some truly terrible vegan “cheese” (even some that was worse than the above tofu abomination) but also some really decent ones. Are they worth trying if you’re not hilariously lactose intolerant or vegan? No. lol

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      20 days ago

      American cheese would have been an upgrade from the tofu disaster I made, but it also would have made me fart a lot

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    21 days ago

    Well, you can poison yourself as much as you want. Sounds disgusting, but who knows… Was it good? Because if it was, then you have done everything right – the only important characteristic of the pizza is if it tastes good to the owner.

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    21 days ago

    Why go so heavy on the improvised vegan cheese the first time? Tomato and BBQ base layer, onions, pineapple, sweetcorn, mushroom, whatever you like really. Maybe a light sprinkling of vegan cheese at most.

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        20 days ago

        I tried taking Benadryl before eating some stuff once. It worked at first but then I had a reaction after. Fortunately it wasn’t as bad as it could have been. I just felt like I got run over by a truck.

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    21 days ago

    We once accidentally bought a bag of preshredded mozzarella alternative. Missed the part where it wasn’t real cheese. When we made lasagna, it crisped instead of melted. Kind of like some French fried onions on top I guess. It was delicious, but it wasn’t lasagna

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        20 days ago

        i wish i could find the exact product again. those little shreds toasted up like coconuts shreds. the texture was delightful. i’d mix it with animal cheese this time tho

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          20 days ago

          was it Aldi brand by chance? they did not do a good job of making their nondairy cheese visually distinct from the real cheese

          Daiya “parmesan” would likely do what you’re looking for. it’s really thinly shredded and tends to crisp when i use it on pizza

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            20 days ago

            it could have been? it was like 20 years ago, sam’s club/walmart cheese. i don’t know if they were also aldi back then.

            also, thanks for responding to my inane comments. i wouldn’t have remembered my zucchini/pasta ala vodka idea without you.

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              20 days ago

              def wasn’t Aldi then as they’ve never been affiliated with Walmart/Sam’s. 20 years ago I’m impressed you managed to find a fake cheese at all let alone by accident lol

              (also your comments are no more inane than my pizza was criminal)