Back when I was younger and on the road all the time I would have loved to have a pill that guaranteed I didn’t have a critical hit. But even at my peak nine times a day would have had me pushing rope.
Why stop at 9
A man’s got to eat some time you know.
That’s what the pregame is for
That’s because hormonal birth control for women takes advantage of existing biological processes to prevent pregnancy.
Men don’t have any known biological processes that can be utilized like that, although it’s been consistently studied for decades.
It’s been attempted multiple times and every time the effects are non-reversible and have horrible side effects.
It’s essentially all the negatives of hardcore anabolic steroid usage without the muscles.
It sucks but the reality of it is guys are basically too simple to disrupt without seriously fucking everything up but woman are more complicated so relatively minor tweaks can achieve the desired effect.
So basically it’s like jailbreaking an iPhone?
And there is some progress too afaik
There’s been “progress” every few years for decades. Male birth control is basically the medical equivalent of battery technology.
I’ll believe it when a pill makes it to market.
I mean… you know that you can buy batteries today, and they’re much better than the ones you could buy a decade ago?
The point is that on a regular basis there are articles about some amazing new battery breakthrough, but it never leaves the lab.
Genuinely kinda wonder why that keeps happening
Tech illiterate media writing hype articles. Repeats yearly also with flying cars or vacuum tube trains.
Most progress isn’t made in sudden huge jumps, but small incremental improvements.
When pubsci articles promise a breakthrough, remember:
- it takes a long time to bring such research to market (think ~decade)
- most breakthroughs are only applicable to narrow niches or work under specific conditions
- real-life results will usually be worse than lab results
- startups have incentives to make their research appear as important as possible
But instead of waiting for huge breakthroughs, just look at the progress made in commercially available batteries. There have been many improvements in cost & charge density.
Just like cold fusion
I had thought that another part of it was the levels of harm compared to the problem; getting pregnant is incredibly stressful and possibly harmful, up to and including death as a possibility. A medicine that can stop that but has side affects that are less harmful than pregnancy is a lot more palatable. Whereas, for men, the harm caused by pregnancy is zero, so any harm caused by the pill is weighed a lot heavier.
We do have to remember that “First do no harm” is not a universal law of ethics or anything, it’s just the way the powers that be think about things.
It’s really frustrating how often this gets framed as sexist, when it’s a totally different problem. I get why people would equate them but they are very different biological processes. Producing a baby is a complicated process, and there’s a lot of steps that we can intervene in to prevent it. Producing a million sperm is, maybe surprisingly, less complicated and it’s harder to target a specific thing and produce easily reversible results.
Men have had vasectomy on the table for a long time now. It’s just more serious than most forms of female birth control, in terms of implementation and recovery, still not foolproof, and not as easy to reverse.
Even more frustrating is that sexism definitely does exist and play a role. It’s just more about the human parts of the process, like dealing with medical staff, dealing with insurance, dealing with local, state, and now federal governments that want to bar access to women. Looking at the pill side is misplacing the anger.
I am pretty sure there have been attempts at temporarily blocking sperm so not having to do vasectomy for decades and it was not yet successful, it’s not like this problem is not being worked on because scientists are sexist or something
Vasalgel, I was signed up for updates, but after about 10 years I gave up on that and got a traditional vasectomy.
There are also medical benefits to female hormonal birth control besides not getting pregnant.
I think men should consider the potential harms to their partner in their calculus. If a man participates in causing a pregnancy that results in serious complications or death, I would sincerely hope that he would be as devastated by the loss of his partner as he would by suffering the harm himself. If men can’t empathize with their partner enough to consider the risks to her, then he shouldn’t be having sex in the first place.
Also we have condoms too so i don’t get what everyone is talking about
Condoms are horrible for birth control.
I know I should use them but I really don’t like using them.
As long as you both don’t mind, enjoy
Happy father’s day.
Iirc there are trials for pills for men right now
So far, there’s no male birth control pill on the market. But there are two types of birth control pills in the works: YCT-529 and dimethandrolone undecanoate. YCT-529 is a hormone-free male birth control pill that aims to stop your body from making sperm by targeting the vitamin A signaling that makes sperm production possible.
Researchers studied the effects of this male birth control pill on animals. They found that in mice, after four weeks of use, it was 99% effective in preventing pregnancies. In primates, sperm counts dropped in just two weeks of use. Researchers also completed a phase 1 human study to test how safe and tolerable the drug is. Now, they’re recruiting participants for a phase 1B/2A study, but more research is needed before this drug can hit the market.
The other male birth control pill, dimethandrolone undecanoate (DMAU), may also be available as an injectable. This one is a hormonal birth control, meaning it impacts your male sex hormones, causing them to temporarily stop your body from making sperm.
In a phase 1 study, participants took DMAU for 28 days. But the participants weren’t relying on DMAU for birth control, so more research is needed. Even though a phase 2 trial is in the works, it’s not complete.
https://www.webmd.com/sex/birth-control/male-contraceptives
Huh. I thought the trials had been completed, but I guess not. Feels like I remember hearing about them like 4-5+ years ago.
Also, that imply i have to plan doing sex weeks before if i have to take the pill
Also, that imply i have to plan doing sex weeks before if i have to take the pill
Same with the female pill. The intended usage is that you take birth control regularly, regardless of how often you actually have sex.
You’ll continue to hear about them every few years for the rest of your life. Its always “just a couple years” away.
Nature is sexist, got it.
Basically. There’s no biological advantage for men to shut down sperm production, so evolution never pressured a mechanism to do so.
There have been attempts, but as far as I know they stopped due to safety issues. But I could be wrong.
Vasalgel/Risug(?) have shown promising results in tests in India iirc, but the last time I checked there was almost no momentum in getting it FDA approved. It is as far as I know, 100% effective and only required administrating once. The materials used to create it are cheaper than the syringe. Why is it not making more headway? Because it eliminates profits (like ongoing prescriptions would provide) for pharmaceuticals.
I’ve been hoping for it to become widely available since first reading about it somewhere south of 2010. But I guess it would need to become easily manufacturable in local pharmacies for procedure to become widespread.
Last time I read about it had some issues, like the material stopped blocking way earlier than anticipated
All I’m seeing is I can seed my own country if I try hard enough.
Ok Musk.
Pff that lazy fuck pays someone else to do the work for him like for everything else
Someone else is going to run that turkey baster.
Genghis Khan has entered the chat
Cumming 9 times a day??
Yeah, any more than 7 is tiring.
With 9 different partners each time, dude dick gonna fall off statistically speaking.
So hear me out; have the lad cum onto a table, use a postcard or something to divide the subject matter into 9 equal parts, then have the ladies come in and snort it up their pussy.
I’m not a professional in this field fyi.
Nowhere does it say you have to limit yourself to that
If you have a plan and put in the effort it can easily be done
This guy definitely owns a milking table. It’s probably homemade.
Don’t forget to hydrate
Centuries of discounting female medical concerns and avoiding anything that would even inconvenience men are why we’re here.
s/science/pharma/
Nature is crueler with stillbirths, ectopic pregnancies, blood type incompatibility, autoimmunity killing, etc., etc…
There was a post the other day pronouncing female like tamale and it made me take a while to read this post and made it a little more fun, too
Weird how it seems like it’s all for women and safe sex but then criticizes a tool women have to checks notes take control of their sex lives and make decisions about getting pregnant.
Non-surgical birth control options for women tend to come with a lot of side effects and a number of risks that don’t always outweigh the benefit. Hormonal birth control can cause tons of problems for the women taking them and some of them are associated with life-threatening side effects like increased risk of clotting leading to DVTs, PEs, and strokes.
And it’s their choice to pick that option and it’s not my place to remove that option because I’m done rando on the Internet who thinks he knows better
I’m absolutely not advocating for removing that option. However, increasing the options for male birth control is necessary for a wide variety of reasons, including allowing male partners to take the burden off of their female partner if she isn’t able to tolerate the side effects or can’t find a birth control method that actually works well for her. It is, in effect, another birth control option for women to be able to defer some responsibility to a male partner in a committed relationship.
Yes, and male birth control doesn’t solve these problems because the only way to be 100% sure is to be on birth control yourself, especially important with huge chunks of the US banning abortions
It’s not a great option for more casual encounters or early in relationships, but for established couples that already have children and don’t want more or are in a committed, trusting relationship, male birth control opens the possibility for the male partner to ease the burden of birth control effort and side effects.
As far as I’m aware science agrees with this and is certainly trying it’s just proven to be a harder thing to accomplish.
Easier to stop one egg than a billion sperm
It’s because trying to shut down what millions of sperm production a day is hard. Even one gets through and your product fails.
I got snipped so my wife didn’t have to do the hormonal bullshit. Her doctor is putting her back in it because women’s bodies literally do not want them to be happy.
I’m almost 54 and menopause has not yet been achieved, though my system is constantly teasing/taunting me with it.
I couldn’t agree more.
