Allowing this to stay up but not linking to it seems wrong. I don’t know anything about this site other than the headline but if you disagree that strongly, which seems to be the right reaction, you should ban the headlines too.

@ValueSubtracted Thanks for the reminder. Yeah, I would never link because eww, but a screenshot for general pointing-and-laughing was just too tempting.

@PhilipTheBucket They get such a shallow understanding of things, and then get all butt hurt when other people provide a much more logical interpretation based on the specifically stated intents of the original show creators.

Yeah conveniently the photo they chose left uhura out…

Probably just a coincidence

Tell me you know nothing about Star Trek without telling me.

ST broke so many cultural barriers, nothing else in its time period even comes close. Other than that they wore uniforms almost nothing is militaristic. It was a science vessel not a warship. Money and capitalism were virtually non-existent and when they did show up, they were ridiculed. I could go on, but you should learn for yourself.

Part of the reason the show works is that we never really see Federation life outside of Starfleet. Mostly this is for practical budget reasons; what does a post-scarcity egalitarian society actually look like? That’s difficult to depict in a show designed to recycle the same set every episode and only very occasionally go outside to film.

So what little we see of the civilian federation looks… a lot like the US. There’s a president. Member states planets. Constant references to US history. A military that operates how Americans like to think their military works, rather than what it actually historically has done.

Newer shows take this even further. Section 31, as it was first introduced, was supposed to be a highly illegal, unsanctioned conspiracy acting in the shadow of the proper Federation. Now they’re presented as the ultra official, coolest badasses who are the only reason any of the egalitarian principals are able to survive.

I agree with all you said, I just can’t believe it is possible for conservative viewers of the show to be blindered to the numerous, numerous ways where the show morals, both implied and very much stated, are antithetical to the entire value structure of the modern right-wing of the USA.

But then again, when I think of the Trek fans I know in real life, it is surprising how many of them are Republicans. Not a majority, but enough. So they might just be overlooking the things they don’t agree with.

Tbh I think we need to accept that they’re so turned on by the idea that they’ve effectively given prior consent.

Weird. My stay at home mom and favorite aunt watched it back when TVs had 5 stations on a dial. They introduced me, female, to it at a young age. None of us are Trump voters.

The only dislike expressed was for the Spock’s brain episode. They still talk about what a terrible episode they thought it was.

Where is this article getting their demographic numbers, wishful thinking? The wiki says it’s always been a diverse viewership with a slight skew to male.

@Kirk Gotta appreciate the thinly veiled “great fan replacement” theory. How very subtle. I’m sure the author (whoever that is) felt ever so witty.

Well the reasoning in the article has nothing to do with the audience being conservative. It’s: Star Trek has a mainly male audience. Males are conservative. Then they show some picture how males went more conservative some 50 years(!) after it aired… I’m speechless. Maybe AI “reasoning”. Or just very, very stupid.

It seems the only data provided about the demographics and political leanings of the fandom are anecdotal accounts from social media. Do you think it ever occurred to the author that they might just have an algorithm that recognizes their preference for shitty content?

@owenfromcanada These people have invested their entire identities in being miserable. Which ironic because ST is largely optimistic about the future.

@owenfromcanada @socprof

I was only 14 when I put on my big boy pants and learned from the Bell Riots that socialism was bad and I will forever ignore the factors that create such mass unemployment.

Conservatives like Star Trek because it promotes the values of meritocracy, hierarchy, authority, and military discipline. None of these are commonly held by people in the American left (especially not the academic left, which tend to be pretty anti-hierarchical, anti-authoritarian).

The people usually referred to as Republicans these days are right-wing populists. They have very little in common with the types of conservatives who loved the franchise in the 20th century. Those older conservatives are almost extinct in the Republican Party today.

Remember not so long ago when people noticed that Rise Against makes political songs? A lot of people are blind to stuff like this until you point it out.

@Archangel1313 Noooo, true ST is about straight manly men kicking alien butts!

Bold of you to assume they know it’s space communism. If the boys is of any indication Star Trek needs to explicitly say “we’re space communism” for there to be a 50/50 chance of Republicans getting it.

Nah, it’s just your typical conservative with zero media literacy not understanding Star Trek and thinking no one else does either.

In fairness, it is an American show.

Its somewhat justifiable, kinda.

Republicans think women are animals. otherwise why would they want to strip away their human rights like access to abortion clinics and revoke their rights to vote? (no need to answer we all know why)

if they don’t hate women, Republicans have a really fucked up view of the equality that Trek embodies from start to finish.

most old americans may be republican but not most old trekkies are not.

Education has been bad for a long time in this country it seems

Not just Republicans…anyone that votes for a conservative party.

@LadyMeow I was hoping they’d all be raptured a couple of weeks ago. Imagine all the problems that would have immediately been solved.

@don Toxic masculinity is a helluva drug.