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Where the fuck is this guy buying a week’s groceries for $50? My kids eat more than $50 in cereal per month.
Have them eat oatmeal with fresh berries and (plain) yoghurt instead of industrially processed sugary garbage.
Overnight oats are a game changer. Even if my nephew makes them super sweet, it’s still only like a quarter of the sugar of cereals.
Lookin back this is irrelevant
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Well yeah if they eat $40 worth of sugar a month, it can get pretty expensive
sounds unhealthy, NGL
Obviously you arent familiar with the wood and paint chip hack
Just start grinding down the foundations of your home and add the sawdust to your rice crispy treats for some extra filling
Aldi is your best bet if nearby. More than 50 a week outside of rice and beans meals but you will not go through 50 a week of cereal. Admittedly their granola is lacking, but it is hard to find good granola anywhere.
Other stores here are approaching $10 (!) for a bag of granola with minimal add-ins, Aldi is a little plainer but it’s a no-brainer when the same size there is like $3.
$10? Jesus. Many of these big box or City grocery stores have always had really high prices especially on some Goods. All of the name brand cereals are especially High everywhere, Kellogg’s and Post Cereal are like twice as high as the generic brands. Which for things like Raisin Bran are about the exact same cereal. Granola is the only one I have noticed a quality difference on.
I sort of quit milk for the past 18 months or so but if I get back into it, whole milk in the winter tastes really good when you work outside, I might just make my own granola. And by 50 lb bags of grain if I can find them.
I just got diapers according to the store it was a great discount, they where from the stores own brand (not even a “premium” brand)
Anyway I paid 26 cents per diaper (for my daughter)
When my son was born 6 years ago I paid 12 cents per diaper.
Every government chart about inflation is just not accurate for your groceries. The official inflation numbers tell me it’s about 25% inflation, but in reality for a lot of things it doubled.
The CPI has been changed a number of times over the past 5 decades, each change lowering the rate. By the old rate just in 2008 social security checks would be on average some 1,200 more a month.
maybe uh, maybe don’t buy a bunch of overpriced cereal?
Let green text guy live his own definition of an ideal life, but it would be a pretty pathetic life for me if the only place I ever had to go was the grocery store.
He works there too! Eat, sleep and shit at the grocery store. The civilized dream.
If you live in a place where walking to the grocery store is feasible, chances are pretty good that you can get to your job and most other important places via sidewalk, bicycle or public transport.
But I like traveling. My boyfriend is in arizona, and my two favorite beaches are in California 2 hours apart from each other. I like to drive and travel. Some people prefer car-free life for its simplicity & economy, but freedom & travel define my whole life.
I hate cars and love walkable cities as much as the next guy in this community, but this comparison is just nonsense.
If the only thing you do and are comparing is 4 trips a month to the grocery store that is in walkable distance you are not spending $200 a month on gas and probably also less on maintenance and stuff. And if you are only doing that you also don’t need the newest and best car.
I feel like this type of bad faith analogies just hurts the message.
You don’t go to Costco to save money, you go so you have an excuse to buy a box of instant ramen.
Just one box? Look over here at Mr. Self Control!
Well, there’s boxes of other things I definitely for sure 100% need to buy
Must be nice to live where public transit works. 2h to get to and from work each way not including daycare dropoff just ain’t it. Give me feasible public transit and a walkable city and I’ll get rid of my car.
Only the rich or the dumb buy new. You can still get decent used cars for a fair bit cheaper.
Used car market is getting cooked. People are holding onto their cars longer. When they get into even a minor crash, they are often totalled because of how expensive parts are. Independent mechanics are being pushed out because there’s nothing worth fixing.
The end result will be buy new or don’t.
Buy a 5000 lbs truck to haul less groceries than cyclists do on bikes.
If it weren’t for weather I wouldn’t have a car. Sure, 90 minutes by ebike is a serious time commitment, but I’d save so much money a year it makes sense as a part time job.
But fuck riding a bike on ice for two months lol
Ice ? Canadians do bike in winter too.
Ice isn’t the worst IMO, it’s the sloshy zero degree sludge, ice cold rain and biting wind.
Do they do it for 20+ miles? In the dark?
Maybe they do.
I don’t want to die.
you don’t want to die? that doesn’t sound like weather is what matters to you, that sounds like safety from traffic is what matters.
and if you’re talking about slipping on ice, uh… studded tyres exist.
It’s a pretty hilly commute. Besides the ever present threat of being murdered in traffic (and this is a rural area, so traffic actually is a lesser concern), I have to contend with going up and down half a dozen steep slopes.
One ice in the dark.
I might just wreck my bike and freeze to death.
studded tyres make biking on ice feel like biking on asphalt, and you can buy very good rechargable LED lamps. I had a teacher who biked ~20km in the winter, through rural areas and during the dark since it becomes night at 17:00.
I have lights and ride in the dark already.
But we’re talking 11pm, if I get in a bad accident on a dark farm-to-market road I’ll just die. No one will see or hear me.
Also 20km is only 12.4 miles.
And I outright don’t believe riding on a steep icy hill with studs is like riding on asphalt. I’m sure it’s doable, I just don’t believe it’s easy or safe.
90 Minutes??? Jesus christ
I do it about once a week. Plenty of time for audiobooks and podcasts!
That sucks, where I live I’m a 3 minute walk from two supermarkets, with like 4 more in a 15m radius.
I don’t say this to brag, but that’s why I reacted incredulously to your original comment, it just seems crazy to me.
Living in between supermarkets sonds like absolute hell to me.
why? Genuinely curious bc for me it’s fine
I ride a bike in winter, though admittedly it’s in a city where frequent plowing and ambient heat make it less of an issue. Funny thing is, I bought my bike in December.
I wear thick winter gear, including gloves, socks, and mask. If I drove, I’d want that sort of gear as soon as I exit my car at the parking lot, so I’d rather just have that all on beforehand and be warm the whole way.
It’s also just not that snowy/icy around here anymore. You might get it for a few days but otherwise it’s just cold and dry.
Studded tires make this a non issue.
Studded tires are illegal on public roads where I live (i’m pretty confident it applies to bikes too), but i do fine with fat tires. My chain slips if its actively snowing though and for some reason my bolts loosen rather quickly in winter.
But it cold and I don’t want to bundle up like that kid from A Christmas Story.
Physically impossible in the north outside of cities and even then not often possible. What with snow and all. And it is 6 months here.
Yeah I lived a car-free life when I lived in Seattle, working on Magnolia Hill, living on Capitol Hill. That was doable year round. The midwestern flyover states I grew up and live in, tho, no it’s not workable. In the North there’s snow for months, in the South we have monsoon season where it rains for weeks, in the summer heat index gets above 110 regularly and these people don’t plant shade trees. Plus nearest grocery stores are miles away (I live downtown in a capital city).
Even though I work a few blocks from my home, I can’t live car free here without significant ride-sharing expenses (the bus system is a joke and only runs part of the day, grocery shopping would eat an entire day of my week that way), if I did that I couldn’t go on roadtrips on weekends either, unless I rented a car - and all that is more expensive than my (20k, not 40k) car.
But I do love this community and it’s coastal approach to shaming people who rely on cars… take the tram or train, lmao
I do not use my car for weeks at a time, but I need one in the country especially, also in the city when there.
“I can’t put my arms down!!”
Does it really? I’d think they would help, but actually a non-issue? I’m skeptical.
Also getting sprayed by a passing
assholecar showering me with slush+sand+road salt doesn’t sound great either.Personal experience, yes. I’ve biked trails in all conditions and only had any trouble on one of them. It had snowed a bunch, thawed, froze again, and then rained. I could still generally bike around and never fell, but didn’t have enough traction for the short steep climbs found on trails.
My commute is pretty hilly, doesn’t sound like I’d have a good time on ice.
I often choose to ride my bike in the winter on super icy (side roads, no traffic) it’s fun for recreational purposes if you’re into that. On a commute or something else, i really wouldn’t recommend.
Some people in this community are nuts. They expect people to bike 15-20 miles though snowy mountains carrying a weeks worth of breakfast, lunch, and dinners.
I haven’t had a car for two years now. Well technically i had the car i use for my job, but i never use that in my free time. While public transportation is pretty good here, i still live close to nowhere and i have to get to the next bus stop. Ebikes are fantastic but they do have their limits. Gettig groceries on a nice sunday morning, i can go on a 90min trip without any roads and no cars and a view that would blow most people’s mind. But a rainy Thursday evening in the cold, there are just days that i’m not in the mood for that.
For the rainy days you could get a quality rain jacket. Works pretty well. We got rainproof backpacks too.
these days $45 at costco is like two things, and $50 at a regular grocery store is six things.
but the analogy still holds that walking is much cheaper.
Yeah I’ve been price comparing by unit volume between aldi and BJs cause my dad put me on his BJs membership-
Almost nothing is cheaper at BJs. Rice is. A whole bundle of coconut milk is cheaper.
But like… Unless you’re already buying brand names it’s frankly a bad deal 😅 and even then I’m curious how much better than Walmart it might actually be
BJs offered us a deal so we took it.
Almost every product there (all name brand) costs the same as buying the generic brand at Walmart. Cereal, yogurt, Mac and cheese, toilet paper, I have compared all of it while we have the one year membership.
Sure, I get name brand, and Jif is better than great value, but I have saved nothing. Won’t be renewing when they actually expect me to pay the membership. Sam’s club beats Walmart by a little bit but not a lot, and I dont have a Costco or Aldi’s near me. How does Aldi’s stack compared to BJ’s?
Thank you for sharing, that’s super helpful!
Aldi seem almost always cheaper or the same price compared to BJ’s, as everything at Aldi with a small number of exceptions is store brand. Even buying in smaller quantities many things are cheaper at Aldi, by at least a little bit.
The exceptions I saw were things like rice since you can buy store brand jasmine at BJs in a huge 25 lb bag, which if I remember is a good deal compared to Aldi (obs ignoring membership cause you can’t really factor that in). Basmatti was even steeper of a deal I think, since Aldi sells less basmatti and so only sells a smaller bag and for a bit more money. And I do remember dry black beans being cheaper but I believe that was even cheaper at Walmart. That might also be true for canned coconut milk which I think was cheaper at BJs, but it might be a bit cheaper still at Walmart, I don’t recall.
Milk has weirdly been way cheaper for me at target in my area, than basically anywhere else, which feels very strange, but it’s close to me and I’m usually there to pick up perscriptions anyway so it’s not too inconvenient to get only milk there.
It’s been a bit since I did price comparisons though, and my memory is exceptionally bad 😅. I almost always shop at Aldi so I don’t compare them ongoing, I just went through the process of checking a bunch of things recently.
Shopping at Aldi I would generally expect you to save a bit of money vs BJ’s unless you’re buying stuff you can buy at BJs in much larger volume.
Plus Aldi doesn’t make political campaign donations, and as such isn’t using my money to purchase my political institutions away from me, which I very much appreciate
Cool thanks for the info.
Also didn’t know bjs was donating lije that. Terrible.
Whoa, you can get a BJ membership? I thought it was something you always had to pay for each time.
Can you shop at BJs without a membership…?
Its a wholesale club, like sams and Costco. But yes, you can get a membership, I think that’s the default/standard way of shopping there, shopping without a membership I think would be an exception to the norm
Is there like an option to pay an added fee on top of whatever you’re buying to be able to shop without membership? If so, how much is it?
I just spent about 150 my last trip and I’m set for a month. No oj though, it’s expensive there, too. I could have gotten more but I held back in case I don’t get back for a minute.
ETA: I don’t have a car and the walk would take days.
This is assuming you live in a walkable town or neighborhood. I remember a reddit post (can’t find it anymore) of a guy trying to walk less than 2 miles to an appointment in Orlando. He followed Google Maps directions down the shoulder of a highway that led to a dead-end, backtracked, tried again, and finally made almost all the way to his destination, which was on the opposite side of a 6-lane highway Google wanted him to cross.
I’ve only ever visited the theme parks in Orlando, but I experienced one intersection I had to share with cars. I spent every walk sign waiting for cars making a turn to yield. Even though I had the right of way, literally none of them did, until I finally had to run across the street because the cars at the red light, who could see I was 1/3 through the intersection, floored it the second their light turned green. Sure, fuck all of those car-brained drivers who refuse to yield to pedestrians, but also fuck that city for not fining drivers for shitty behavior, or at least changing their traffic lights so all cars have red lights when pedestrians have the walk sign.
Anyway, point is, personal choices are important, but they can’t overcome the systemic issues created by car culture without collective action. And Orlando sucks ass.
Congrate, your first sentence figured it out.
Maybe you just got here but bud I’m getting so tired of people assuming that people like the person in the post aren’t also the same people screaming for better infrastructure so we can ditch this high dependence on cars. We know that not everywhere is like this and that’s why we also have a MOUNTAIN of examples of even the shittiest places in the US, but also all over the world, doing things to build better for not that much money.
The entire point of the post is to show that people who fight against that change don’t have much of an argument. We know how things are but they don’t need to be like forever. Nearly every city used to be a 15min city before the car and then 50-100 years ago we fucked it all up(because of bribes from car manufacturers) and kept that shit train rolling.
Yeah, that would be a great point if the entire post wasn’t a 4Channer framing this as personal choices and not systemic ones. The dudes not talking about how the car industry destroyed railcars, he’s dunking on people who drive to the grocery store, and the implication is clearly, “everyone can and should do this,” which is bullshit.
Except there are places where that’s true. There are also people in places with the same mindset who buy trucks for twice the price of a reasonable hatchback and act like the extra $30k+ is less than occasionally renting a U-Haul.
You not being smart doesn’t diminish my point.
Except there are places where that’s true. There are also people in places with the same mindset who buy trucks for twice the price of a reasonable hatchback…
Yeah, I never said this wasn’t true, but again, none of that is in the fucking post. The dude’s not making a nuanced point about people who live in walkable areas but buy large trucks over sensible hatchbacks. He’s making a sweeping statement about how people who don’t walk to the grocery store are idiots, but America has the walking score of a developing nation; if you live somewhere where you can walk to the grocery store, you’re breathing rarefied air, and calling other people stupid for driving is entitled.
Like, what are you so pissy about? That I was responding to the content of the post instead of the points you assume the 4Channer would make, but didn’t? OK buddy, in the future, I’ll try to infer what you presume the OP’s hidden beliefs are and tailor my comment to that. Seems reasonable.
So you get to have all the nuance but they don’t? Ok, buddy.
The fuck are you talking about? Yeah, they don’t get to have the nuance; it’s not in the fucking post. It’s a pithy 50ish words about how they’re so much smarter than other people for not driving to the grocery store. I pointed out the reality is more nuanced than that for most people, and your whole response has been, “yeah, well, they probably know that, so why don’t just act like their response is nuanced?” To which the answer continues to be, “Because that’s not what they fucking said, are you high?”
Wahh wahh oh my god, dude. Congrats, you showed up and started running your mouth like you had access to special information and were teaching people that there are places without good infrastructure. We know this already, and I even showed you other extremely related examples.
Yes, you’re a very special smarty-pants thank you for this wonderful and definitely new take that will totally help and isn’t at all the same old tired shit that constantly bloats the discussion.
The whole “turn right on red” in north America baffles me as a European.
Oh, this wasn’t even a right on red. The green light for cars was lined up with the walk sign for pedestrians going rhe same direction. In a situation like that, when a car with a green light needs to turn through the crosswalk, they are supposed to yield to any pedestrian crossing at that time, but apparently the people of Orlando have so much car entitlement that they don’t even slow down when a pedestrian is standing in the middle of the crosswalk trying to complete a legal crossing.
it works great if you just break check the fucker that’s trying to turn, if you lack the confidence it works less well
In NYC it isn’t allowed and now I think it’s insane we allow it everywhere else.
American here, this is just as stupid and dangerous as it sounds. The idea is that it’s very easy to check for pedestrians before turning but literally almost no one even looks. Even if the crosswalk light is lit they don’t notice and just plow right through.
Id argue the idea is that its easy to check for cars as you only need 1 lane of traffic. Traffic engineers don’t really consider the needs and safety of pedestrians, they just do the bare minimum to accommodate them. And the engineers that do try to care about pedestrians are told things like “well thats not how its done in this book from the 50s” or “that would reduce our throughput by 5% meaning we’d need to invest in another car lane”
I know this is fuckcars, but I personally I think it makes sense. Our brothers in Lithuania are also doing it (tbf there needs to be a specific sign next to the light saying you can do it).
The less people spend waiting on pointless traffic lights, the faster cars get to their destination, the less cars there are on the street. At least that’s how I view it.
All of this is of course keeping in mind to always yield to a pedestrian.
here it’s more like this:
don’t own a car no store in reach ??? starve
My house was 420k in an upper middle class single family suburban home with 2400 sq ft vs 1M for a 600 sq ft condo.
Eat my ass 🤣
how much do you spend on fuel commuting to the city? that 1M in the city is buying you a lot more than the 600 sq ft.
from your 420k suburban home, what’s the average distances to your: doctor, groceries, place of worship or study or work?
Do you own a car? Whats the median distance of commutes in a typical year for you?
We also shouldn’t forget time cost of your commutes. Median time spent commuting in a year you could have spent doing other things.
Sure i agree with you that suburb is better if you have public transit connecting you to the city from your home in the suburbs and you use it regularly.
About 2k miles a year. I’m my f150 I spend about $800 a year in gas. Maybe 15 minutes a day.
Ignoring every other part of cost of living, it’ll never be even, it’s not even close.
Oh and the time, it’s 10 minutes through my neighborhood. I don’t get on a road with a speed limit above 35 and I have a single stop sign along the way. My daughter is with me, we’re going to daycare, and I’m going to miss it now that bus service picks her up literally in my driveway.
now imagine this same scenario where you have a choice between driving your truck vs. public transit or bicycle infrastructure. Sure you may not use it but others may no longer be required to own a car and drive it for such short distances in the first place.
the net difference of owning a car vs not needing one and hence not owning it goes beyond just monetary gains.
The argument is not one based on changing behavior at an individual level. Its about policy and urban design.
Do you have two gyms and a pokéstop, though?
I’ll take my 911 tyvm
this is the second time i see you and again your take is bad, why?
My take is fantastic. If your only concern is cost it’s clearly cheaper to live in America without public transit. It’s dead simple shit.
Going to start name calling again with nothing to back up your little meme 😞?
Why do you go to the “fuck cars” community, then? If you’re so happy, there shouldn’t be any need to troll.
It’s one of the few communities that regularly pops up 🤷♂️
Just block the community and it won’t “pop up”.
Lmao imagine telling a new Yorker it’s cheaper to live in America without the subway.
That was your take? 🤣👌👍
This guy has fewer brain cells than his country has high speed rail lines. Easier to just block him
Ok let’s flip this to cherry pick my example.
Don’t need a car most of life, get to 40 and upskill and become a software engineer. Job market is terrible due to saturation and I suck at interviews so can only take a job 40 miles away from home.
No problem.exe. I can take 2.5-3 hour commute each way 5 days a week.
Fast forward a few months and I’m just dead on my feet, do nothing but go to work come home goto bed get up and repeat.
Decide this can’t continue. Can’t afford to move to the bougie town where I work so decide I need a car finally.
Save 12-15 hours per week and it’s not too much more expensive than taking a Metrolink and a train to work with 30 mins of walking too. Plus all the meals you need to eat out of the house when you’re out for 14 hours in a day.
On my days off I’ll take the tram 20 miles each way to go rock climbing but some people actually do need cars and they shouldn’t be made to feel bad for it.
Also the sunk cost of the car’s capital goes toward all the other things you’ll use your car for, like leisure time and driving other humans around. Also the practicality of walking to get groceries decreases as you gain more mouths to feed.
It’s also not super practical to walk to get groceries if you live in a hot climate.
or cold climate
I’ve got a family of four, soon to be five. There’s no way I could possibly do all my grocery shopping on foot. It’s just too much to carry. I’d have to bring a wheelbarrow, and all the ice cream would melt.
Exactly. I’ve actually used the car at weekends to do some work for friends. So can earn more money with it.
Anon obviously has never been to Costco. No way you can leave that place without parting with $100
And no way you only save $5, long as you only buy what you need. We got a sectional for $2k that would have cost $3k elsewhere, and far less than the $5500 LoveSac we were eyeballing.
Living within 1 kilometer walking distance of a grocery store is amazing. Instead of expensive fast food I can get comparatively inexpensive deli food. And if I want to be frugal and cook meals myself, cheap beans, rice, fresh meat, dairy, and produce are all available. Plus, I get a nice daily walk instead of checks notes from a previous life drive twenty minutes to the gym each day to walk on a treadmill.
The way to go IMO. I’m on a 20-year streak in not having a car. When I pick a new place to live, walkability to a good grocery store is one of my primary considerations. I only shop for one, so lugging groceries is no big deal, and I enjoy the extra exercise.
Throughout my life I’ve watched people spend all their money on conveniences and degrade physically, mentally, and financially as a result. Why not situate yourself for long-term success from the get-go? I wish more people were conscientious of the energy balance required to sustain a healthy life and best aligns with the environmental impacts we’ve wrought upon ourselves.
I just broke my 12 year streak of not having a car. I took a job as a city bus driver. Whaddya do when you’re supposed to run the first bus out of the garage and it’s too snowy to bike? I feel like a failure and a jerk. But I am trying to move close to the depot, so hopefully I could walk.
I think if anyone gets a pass for needing a car to get to work it’s the early working bus driver, haha.
That sucks, but we gotta do what we gotta do. I don’t begrudge anyone for adapting to the environments society has established. Sticking to ideals is a rarity when things are structured to push us toward consumptive lifestyles. So, I’d not feel like a jerk; heck, just having a modicum of awareness is a step in the right direction.
The gym is such a waste of energy. With proper form you can get that workout doing useful things. For charity if nothing else.
do grocery stores where you live not have frozen food? that’s the ideal in my book: perfectly decent quality and you just have to heat it.
This is the best one i’ve tried, it’s literally just frozen veggies, precooked pasta, chicken, and sauce. Healthy as fuck while tasting great and taking 0 effort to prepare.Healthy as fuck is a bit of a stretch for industrially-processed food grown with pesticides. It’s better than fast food.
Come off it, chopping veggies up and freezing them (‘industrial processing’) doesn’t make them unhealthy. There’s also not a way to guarantee that your food has no pesticides (it’s permissible under the organic label in some conditions) unless you grow it yourself.
Hell studies show that frozen and then cooked food is the easiest to absorb nutrients from so in a sense it’s even healthier.
Oh boy, if you really think these are healthly I have bad news for you… Sure there are worst options around, but that still counts as processed food on my book!
so, respectfully, what the absolute fuck are you on about? do you only eat roots you dig up in the forest?
Maybe its a cultural thing, but mostly fresh vegetables, fresh fruits, fresh meat, fresh fish… I think you got the idea. Frozen veggies are good too (if not pre-cooked or seasoned).
Yeah, but these frozen meals aren’t much more processed than frozen veggies, at least the good ones. Can be a little pricey for what you get though.
I think you’re right about that. They’re just frozen veggies mixed together with chopped meat. The main thing I’d look at is how much salt they dump into these things.
Spices wouldn’t be fresh, either, but that’s more of a taste issue than health issue.
The secret is cooking yourself.
The pasta you sent, have a Nova Score of 4, which means ultra processed food:
https://world.openfoodfacts.org/product/7310500184180/tagliatelle-chicken-findusNutri-Score A
Very good nutritional quality
The science on “ultra-processed” foods is scattered because even dietitians can’t agree on what an ultra-processed food is, or agree on what exactly it is that’s so harmful about it. If it’s high sugar and salt then the processing has fuck all to do with it. If it’s specific preservatives then processing has fuck all to do with it, it’s those specific things that are bad.
Until it’s something other than vibes-based, it’s a bad idea to exclude affordable vegetables or fruit from your diet solely because they’re processed.
For me its about what you said: processed is adding stuff to preserve and “improve”. Nothing bad about frozen basic ingredients that arent cooked. Also in my country fresh veggies and fruit are cheaper than frozen ones.
For me its about what you said: processed is adding stuff to preserve and “improve”.
Which is why it’s a bad, wobbly standard to use. Lactofermented vegetables are incredibly healthy for the gut microbiome, but would fall under this processed label. Processing isn’t inherently bad, and neither is preserving.
so clearly you didn’t read your own link, because that is literally based on the fact that it contains glucose, that is the ONLY reason it’s classed as ultra-processed.
you cannot seriously look at this and conclude it’s processed, there’s no way in hell you’re here in good faith and i very much suspect your upvotes are fake.
i very much suspect your upvotes are fake.
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I live less than a kilometer from a grocery store but it takes me a half hour to walk there because I’m in a subdivision and there’s no direct sidewalk.
I used to be able to cut across yards but somebody put up a fence to stop that.
I got a rice cooker recently, great investment. I pan fry up whatever, some protein and vegetables, I’ve got a few good recipes going. With rice. I’ve been eating healthier and way cheaper. Tonight was chicken, green beans, and various seasonings. Was delicious af and cost me like 1.50$, if that.
This is also coincidentally how the math works on big box stores.
- Big box parking lot/strip mall opens
- Save $100 on groceries annually
- Pay $150 extra in taxes and gas to maintain and drive on an additional 10 miles of road
- Local options shut down, prices go up, and it takes 5 extra minutes to get to box store with increased traffic.
- Box store eventually closes due to not being in suburb anyway.
More like box store closes to cash in on real estate sale and then opens new location just a few blocks down the road on the outskirts. Rinse and repeat.
