• tgirlschierke@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    1 year ago

    it’s not that well-known so i don’t blame the tweeter, but the word starting with E is a slur. i’m not sure if there’s an exact replacement, though, because “Inuit” only refers to one community out of I think three?

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    1 year ago

    Ok so a funny thing is that in my language debilas just means someone really stupid it is an insult but is it a coincidence or not because the roman empire had only traded amber with us. And if that is the case I wonder how when trading amber someone diverted the conversation to twinks so many times that it became part of the language. Or it is just a coincidence.

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      1 year ago

      The Lithuanian meaning is the same as in English, French, Russian, Finnish, etc. The meaning has changed during the two millenia and has then been borrowed into Lithuanian.

    • Spezi@feddit.org
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      1 year ago

      The translations are in the post, it’s the same word origin. Weak or disabled can also refer to the brain. Its just an adjective.

      • cepelinas@sopuli.xyz
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        1 year ago

        I understand that but my language isn’t romanic just the thing that these words are similar is strange and kinda funny to me.

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          It’s probably not a coincidence. There are tons of words in every language that stem from latin one way or another even in russian. Languages can have tons of different influences over the thousands of years they developed and even today they are changing.

    • Tenkard@lemmy.ml
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      Should be from mulier which means woman in Latin, but maybe the mulier word itself is related?

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      There is also “Molly” in English but supposedly it has no relation etymologically

    • CitizenKong@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      Exactly as young as you think unfortunately. They did have slavery, so probably without consent too.

  • Tartas1995@discuss.tchncs.de
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    As a straight guy, some of those seem kinda mean. I thought, they liked their twinks.

    To my gay brothers, are they mean? Or am I just too straight to get it?

    • napoleonsdumbcousin@feddit.org
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      They are probably meant to be mean, because the people described had a very low social status in society.

      The primary dichotomy of ancient Roman sexuality was active / dominant / masculine and passive / submissive / feminine. Roman society was patriarchal, and the freeborn male citizen possessed political liberty (libertas) and the right to rule both himself and his household (familia). “Virtue” (virtus) was seen as an active quality through which a man (vir) defined himself. The conquest mentality and “cult of virility” shaped same-sex relations. Roman men were free to enjoy sex with other males without a perceived loss of masculinity or social status as long as they took the dominant or penetrative role. Acceptable male partners were slaves and former slaves, prostitutes, and entertainers, whose lifestyle placed them in the nebulous social realm of infamia, so they were excluded from the normal protections afforded to a citizen even if they were technically free. Freeborn male minors were off limits at certain periods in Rome.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_ancient_Rome

      • Tartas1995@discuss.tchncs.de
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        1 year ago

        Disappointing and unproductive.

        Imagine, you are a top and you are looking for a bottom but the bottoms hide their bottom-ness because they get shit for it.

        Praise bottoms and enjoy the fruits of a healing environment.

        Of course, there are better reasons to not be a bigot but self-interest should be a convincing one.

    • surewhynotlem@lemmy.world
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      They liked their twinks like many men today like their women.

      I.e. they don’t like them as people. But they enjoy their bodies.

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      No they did not. The roman republic was very similar to modern America except the guy who ruined it was a bisexual hobag who seemed to care about the proleterii. As a note, it would be culturally improper to refer to a Roman man who exclusively tops men and women as bisexual, but a man who bottoms for men as well as topping women would fit that term. Julius Caesar’s bisexuality was a political scandal, and he was referred to by his political opponents as “every woman’s man and every man’s woman”.

      Rome loved twinks like America loves trans women, the sex industry and political world tell wildly different stories, and there was cultural back and forth between “hell yeah” “fucking degenerates” and “lol f@g”

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    puer is just the regular word for boy, as in ”young male” without any sexual connotation.

    • bdonvr@thelemmy.club
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      Words can mean different things with different tones and contexts.

      Oh that one? He’s a guy. But him over there <points> he’s a boy <wink>

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        “Boy” in English has a ton of potential connotations. As one of many examples, during the Civil Rights Movement there was a famous protest sign that said I AM A MAN to counter the way white men addressed black men as “boy.”