• Lord Wiggle@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    Baking in the sun risks skin cancer. But people like to be tanned, so cancer is worth it for a good look.

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    6 months ago

    Not wearing sunscreen and getting a sunburn is a psyop to get men to buy more aloe vera.

  • RedFrank24@lemmy.world
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    I would wear suncream more often, but:

    1. I’m allergic to something in most brands of suncream so if I run out I’m having to deal with rashes all over where I used it.
    2. I hate how it makes me feel slimy after using it

    There’s this Loreal suncream spray I like that I can’t seem to find that feels like water and when it’s dry, it doesn’t feel like you have suncream on. It’s perfect for me! I’m not allergic to it either so I can actually go in the sun without turning red and blotchy!

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    6 months ago

    And then theres me who does not go outside that often, never uses suncream and doesnt get a sunburn when I decide to go outside for longer times.

  • saltesc@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    “ball of fire”

    Haha, no no. You threw down with a gigantic source of cell destroying radiation. The fire did no harm.

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      Hypothetically speaking, will you get sunburnt if you sit near a fire all day?

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        The heat could dry out your skin, which, if I’m not mistaken, is essentially what a burn is. However, as the other person noted, a sunburn is damage from radiation, not heat. So I think you could stretch the common definition of a burn to call heat induced dry skin a burn but calling it a sunburn would not be accurate.

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          @[email protected] If you sit at a magnesium fire, it burns at 3300K, which is hot enough to produce sizeable ultraviolet rays. So you can get your sunburn from that, damaging the DNA in whatever of your remaining cells have not been melted away by heat.

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            Note to self - Don’t sit near a magnesium fireplace if you don’t want to tan your bones, which are now exposed due to the flesh getting melted off by the said fireplace.

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          Heat is also (thermal) radiation. So is light, radio waves, microwaves, etc. However, the radiation from a fire or the other stuff I mentioned isn’t ionizing, so unless the heat itself does damage it won’t do cellular damage.

          You also give off thermal radiation, but so does anything higher temp than absolute zero.

      • NιƙƙιDιɱҽʂ@lemmy.world
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        6 months ago

        Assuming this is a sincere question:

        The sun emits a wide spectrum of radiation due to the nuclear fusion reactions occurring within it’s core. This includes everything from low energy non-visible radio waves and thermal radiation to high energy X-rays and gamma rays. Fortunately for us, the Earth’s electromagnetic field and atmosphere (especially the ozone layer) protects us from all but a tiny sliver of ionizing radiation or we wouldn’t be here to talk about it.

        Also, hello again AES_Enjoyer, hope you’ve been well :)

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          Isn’t most of that radiation blocked by the outer layers of the sun, though? Like, sure, there is a non-negligible amount of high energy photons escaping, but the overwhelming majority of the radiation comes AFAIK from blackbody radiation from the plasma at the temperature of the surface of the sun?

          And yo, mate, how’s it goin?

    • Chrobin@discuss.tchncs.de
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      Actually,

      There’s no fire in the sun. Fire is some material oxidizing, and that’s not what’s happening (or at least not in relevant amounts). What creates the radiation is nuclear fusion.

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    @bees Actually the UV creams have shown to be themselves carcinogenic, so it’s not about to have cancer or not, but how to get it. All things in moderation, including sun, your body does need vitamin d3 which it produces in the presence of UV.

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      Can you actually avoid vitamin d production if you stay long enough in the sun that you need sunscreen to avoid sunburns?

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      Actually the UV creams have shown to be themselves carcinogenic

      And vaccines cause autism \s

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        @Railcar8095 With respect to vaccines and autism, there is a correlation but as the old saying goes casuality is not causality until it is. In my view it warrants research. And I’ve got no doubt that the number of vaccines they are giving toddlers and children these days is overloading their immune systems.

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          I would mock you, but nothing I saw would make you look more foolish than your own words.

          Please go back to Twitter.

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          Autist here who loves to read research about autism.

          There is absolutely no correlation between autism and vaccines. Neurodivergence cannot be caused by immune system problems.

          People are born autistic with a brain programmed by their DNA to form alternative neurological connections compared to neurotypicals. A neurotypical cannot be turned/mutated into being autistic and vice versa.

          The only correlation that exists is that people who are neurodivergent are prone to develop some unhealthy habits (from extra stress, sleep schedules, and being a picky eater etc) which in turn can lower your immune system.

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              Feels weird that i have to explain this, but not all Research is funded by big pharma.

              The majority of research on autism is not about Vaccins either but about understanding the many properties from which it emerges.

              By understanding what autism actually is, which is often studied by autistic researchers who are motivated to understand themselves better it becomes self evident that we are far from reaching a technological point where we can create a drug to cause or even simulate the complex nature of it.

              You could just aswell claim that vaccins cause people to shapeshift into cats, if you understand the subject matter thats just as non-realistic

              If you want to bash vaccines you could state that an experimental accidental wrong mixed variant could cause death. Which would still be an incredibly unlikely freak accident but at least reality allows the technical possibility for such a mistake.

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                @webghost0101 Here are the facts. 100 years ago, Autism rate is 1-in-40000, today it is 1-in-16. The increase in autism has paralleled the increase in vaccines. And the autism rates parallels the vaccination rates in various regions. As I previously stated, this is a casual not a causal relationship, but given the seriousness of the disease and how many it is affecting, it is worth researching the relationship. Only people who could possibly be opposed to that are those whose profits are threatened.

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                  Thats a cute observation but real facts are the following:

                  • Autism was only formally recognized in the 1940s - there’s no reliable data before that, though historical evidence suggests autistic people have always existed. For decades, people deemed “mentally ill” were institutionalized and hidden from society.

                  • The majority of autistic people can mask their traits and present as neurotypical - they had strong incentives to do so given the historical stigma.

                  • Diagnosis happens more frequently in areas with accessible healthcare, which naturally are also areas with higher vaccination rates.

                  • We now have better diagnostic tools and a less punitive society for people with neurological differences. The diagnostic criteria have expanded significantly - many people (especially women) who wouldn’t have qualified under older definitions now do.

                  And if we want to include the more modern research done by the autistic community we learn that autism is a part of a bigger phenomenon called neurodivergence which includes adhd and many others. Who also used to be completely excluded by the dogmatic labeling of neurotypicals.

                  Also you referring to autism as a serious disease shows how little you actually know about it. Just like anyone else neurodivergent people can have psychological disabilities but because they are neurodivergent those disabilities are often different from neurotypical ones. In ““high functioning”” autism disabilities are subjective in context of living in a neurotypical world and are increasingly less disabling with social acceptance and understanding.

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      Oh FFS this isn’t the benzene thing again, is it? Benzene is a trace contaminant in everything from the air you breathe to the water you drink. The highest number Valisure came up with was 6 ppm in a sunscreen sample, that’s 0.0006%. Even if you decided to inject the whole bottle of sunscreen directly into your veins it would be a fraction of your total exposure for the day.

      Using people’s fear of cancer to scare them away from effective cancer prevention measures is fucking shameful, do better.

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        @GingerGoodness Benzene in trace amount is an issue, but also Oxybenzone: Some studies suggest it may be an endocrine disruptor, meaning it could interfere with hormones, and research in animals has raised questions about potential cancer risk, but it’s important to note these were high-dose studies not directly relevant to typical human use. Other UV Filters: Ingredients like octinoxate and homosalate have also raised concerns about potential endocrine disruption, and some are banned in certain regions due to their impact on marine life

        Look, if you want to smear yourself with chemicals, inject yourself with artificial DNA, etc, go for it, just don’t require it of me and my offspring.

  • Hikermick@lemmy.world
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    I put on sun screen every morning to ward off basal cell skin cancer. It sucks but it’s cheaper than going to the dermatologist to have basal cell skin cancer removed. The worst part is getting it in my eyes. On the plus side, the splotchy age spots on my temples have disappeared

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    as a man I have the primal urge to pick a fight with the giant ball of fire in the sky, I lost this time but one day.