The EU, as well as Russia, is a nuclear power. There isn’t a possibility of total defeat of either side in a conflict because of the availability of nuclear weapons. There is no possibility of EU being invaded, seemingly losing against a country with 1/3rd the population and 1/5th the economic output, and just accepting gracefully the defeat. Nuclear weapons ensure that those things don’t happen, sadly they don’t ensure that we don’t suffer a nuclear apocalypse.

And yes, I’d rather not die in nuclear apocalypse, idk about you but you seem rather eager

That’s extremely untrue, there’s plenty of evidence of negotiations in 2022 between Russia and Ukraine getting pretty far until Boris Johnson got involved. Both countries have been willing to negotiate, but the narrative pushed in the west has been that of total war: “the war will end with the defeat of Russia or it won’t end”. Unsurprisingly to anyone with a grasp of geopolitics, the war will end with negotiations, as so-called “tankies” have been urging to do for the past 3 years of meat grinder.

I do not want to go to ww3, you don’t either. Funding Rheinmetall isn’t the way to avoid it

France literally just pulled out troops from Burkina Faso a few weeks ago (still French troops stationed in many African countries), and keeps overseas territories annexed without referendum.

Again, this isn’t a question of whether Russia is bad or not. It’s a question of whether you want to prevent being thrown into the meat grinder / nuclear apocalypse. I’d rather, you know, avoid that

Negotiations have stopped wars in the past, what’s to prevent them from working now

Islam isn’t a race and islamophobia exists and it’s a racist trope.

Germany made amends and stopped the warmongering. Russia has demonstrated that they will not.

Russia can make the same claims about Europe pushing NATO east. This isn’t about being on Russia’s side or EU’s side. This is about PREVENTING WORLD WAR IN EUROPE.

EU is as violent and genocidal as Russia, that’s my entire point. Europe will genocide Palestinians, invade Iraqis, leave migrants to die in the Mediterranean, bomb Libya and Yugoslavia, and maintain troops in its colonies in Africa. By that logic, Russia can’t negotiate with the EU.

Thing is: the alternative to diplomacy is WORLD WAR THREE. I do not want to die in the frontlines or in nuclear apocalypse. So you should be doing all you fucking can to prevent these things.

“Diplomacy doesn’t exist” isn’t the strong argument you think it is. In Russia, government propaganda makes the same claims about the US and Europe, you just happen to live in the US or Europe and you believe your state propaganda. How about we, you know, not fucking kill each other, and use that money to save lives in healthcare for example.

What you’re saying is true. Also, EU/US violated the agreements not to push NATO further east, and keeps forcing foreign governments in the Russian sphere of influence, listen to Victoria Nuland’s leaked call before the Maidan in which she explicitly argued which president they should install in Ukraine.

I hate the modern Russian government as much as you do, I have loved ones suffering directly the consequences of Putin’s fascist ideology. That said: I don’t believe Europe is much better than that as proved by the support of the genocide in Gaza and the thousands upon thousands of refugee deaths in the Mediterranean (mostly coming from wartorn countries that EU/US destabilised if not outright invaded). I simply do not want to die in the frontline of an avoidable war, and neither do you

I’m not excusing anything about Russia, their government is fascist. My point is I don’t want war, and neither do you, and diplomacy exists. As for which of these exists, what’s your point? Gaza genocide is very recent

I’m not Ukrainian, my country hasn’t been invaded. And yes, Ukraine war will end through negotiations, believe it or not. Mark my words.

Your entire argument is “diplomacy doesn’t exist”. It’s not particularly solid

The EU funded genocide in Palestine for committing the cardinal sin of existing though, what’s your point? Russia surely sucks, so does Europe, I don’t wanna fucking die in the front lines and neither do you, so stop warmongering

You could apply that to most EU countries though? Colonialism in Africa, invasion of Iraq, support of the US in Afghanistan, bombing of Libya and Yugoslavia, funding the genocide in Gaza… What makes the EU better? I just happen to live in Europe and I want to push MY government towards peace negotiations because it’s the one I can affect

Yes, I would want more honest peace negotiations. What’s wrong with peace negotiations?

Presupposing that the “evil country” will break agreements isn’t good praxis in diplomacy. There would never be deescalation and diplomacy otherwise.

Russia didn’t attack the EU though?

“My side of government propaganda is right, the other side is wrong”. Get a grasp at geopolitics

Only reasonable conclusion from your former argument. If you wanna stop car imports from china, you may as well stop food products from Latin america, Africa and Ukraine, clothes from southeast Asia, cars from China (not just electric ones)… Basically all consumer products.

You’re a racist because you don’t count the victims of European wars and atrocities because they’re brown. You believe Europe is a moral commonwealth when in reality it’s an empire as evil as Russia and the US if you look at its actual actions. You should delete your first comment in which you say the EU hasn’t started any wars, I’ve already given you 10 examples.

Military expenditure is how you avoid war

Surely giving more money to the lobbyists of Rheinmetall will make Europe much less likely to go to war!!

You think Russia will only attack if Europe is strong?

I think Russia wouldn’t attack the EU if we collectively agreed to maintain good relationships with Russia, as was the case for the past 30 years until EU+US pushed NATO boundaries to Russia and started executing Maidans in the former Russian sphere of influence. That’s not to absolve the Russian government, they’re fascist imperialist pieces of shit, but my point is that so is Europe (e.g. funding genocide in Gaza), and I don’t want another inter-imperialist war like WW1

Also, I don’t think it’s the fascists who want expenditure

But you’re willing to increase it even at risk of them getting to the government