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    Is there a site that does it right? I just need an ingredient list, times, temperatures and maybe a handful of specific pointers if I really need them.

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      Someone should make a browser extension or something that automatically recognizes what part of the page is the recipe, extracts it, and only shows you that.

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      seriouseats.com used to be a lot better, but the fluff before the recipe is generally focused on why the recipe uses the ingredients and quantities it uses, what else was tried, and what the results were. Especially for the older articles written by J. Kenji Lopez-Alt, it ends up being almost more useful than the final recipe they land on. I know you were asking for a no-frills recipe site, but this approach is great for two reasons: 1) you can scroll to the bottom for a no-frills recipe, and 2) if that didn’t work, or if you want to tweak it, the full article has a ton of helpful information, and not, like, a biography of the author’s grandma.

      His chocolate chip cookie article is a all-timer for food science.

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    I use https://www.copymethat.com/ and share an account with my wife. The app makes it easy for us to use while cooking and scraping recipes even works on mobile! You can add the ingredients to a shopping list, and it even organizes them by aisle/category!

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    Recipe articles are probably the best examples of web content whose only real purpose is ad clicks. All of the text is flavor text, in every sense.

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    Those are put there for SEO purposes. Google favors sites with these big stories. The copyright issue alone doesn’t justify what’s there; you could do a quick blurb of a few sentences and it would be enough. Plenty of cookbooks do that.

    This is why a lot of those sites have a button that says “skip to recipe”. It’s a bunch of text that’s meant to be for robots, not you, and they really don’t care if you read it.

    Now that it’s being created by LLMs, we may have the first known example of human language written by robots and intended for robots. Welcome to a cyberpunk dystopia.

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    The cruel part is that it was nested somewhere in the story and he scrolled past it just after day one.

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      Sadly, by the time you see that the button isn’t there, you’ve already given them the visit and ad impressions… Well, unless you run an ad blocker but what horrible person would do that?

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        Adblocker FTW. Also im pretty sure ads dont pay shit without clickthrough. God the current financialisation of the web sucks ass.

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    There’s a firefox extention that filters out everything irrelevant to the recipe. At this point as soon as I open the browser half my ressources go into reverting enshittification.

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      It was life changing when I realised uBlock Origin can block whatever I want from web pages and not just ads.

      All the links at the right of an article, headers and menus that want to continue occupying screen space after I’ve scrolled down, the entire comments section on some pages. Bam, gone.

      Pages with cookie banners that don’t have a one-click reject all button? Just block the banner.

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        Some websites are literally only providing the very top of the article, and if you block the banner you will find that it abruptly ends. In cases like this, you can use archive.ph, though.

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    eh bad take imo, this is one of the few places where AI shines, it’s great because you no longer need to go to a recipe website to begin with, you just ask it for a recipe and it gives you one and then you can discuss different variants etc

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      It’s awesome that it gives you cooking tips you’ll find no where else, like adding glue to improve the consistency of cheese. Or making sure you get your recommended daily serving amount of rocks.

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      Not if you want any kind of consistency so you can actually replicate or understand what you’re doing. Like hallucinations aside (and we really shouldn’t put them aside because they’re a very real thing in this context), the point of a recipe is that you aren’t just getting an averaged version of the process; you’re getting a curated version with specific considerations in mind.

      So you can ask AI for a cinnamon apple pie recipe, and you might get an okay one, but you’re probably never going to get a better-than-average one. And if you do like the version of the recipe it gave you, you had better write it down because when you ask for it next time, it’s not going to be the same cinnamon apple pie recipe. I’ve personally played around with recipes in AI, and even within the same chat, there’s no consistency because it never “knows” anything; it only makes predictive guesses. So when I say, “I like that recipe, but let’s try half as much ginger and maybe add some mirin,” it will reduce the ginger and add mirin, but suddenly all the volumes of the other ingredients have changed, and some items may even disappear.

      So yeah, I think this is something that AI could potentially work well for in the future, as is kind of always the case with any potentially useful AI application right now. But right now, until they’ve been developed with some kind of better active memory and/or something resembling comprehension rather than predictive association, I think this is a field where AI is passable at best, not yet somewhere it shines.

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      Man the ai hate is so strong on lemmy they can’t even admit when it’s good at something. Though I’m guessing a lot of these people’s experience with getting recipes from it is memes of bad hallucinations and not actually trying it looking at all the “glue on pizza” takes.

      I’ll back you up though, have gotten a lot of good recipes from chatgpt, even for baking which doesn’t have a lot of room for error.

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        Ok, you made me look.

        Perplexity got the longest, most boring and uplifting article about how it’s normal and there’s nothing to worry about. It never mentioned that my wife would dislike the idea, so the personalization was off for the day.

        Also, it gave no references. What is weird. Like if the text was hardcoded there.

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      Agree. I’ve discovered some good unique gluten free cooking options for my son with AI. I never even knew about Coconut Aminos.

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        You should not add glue to pasta when cooking or serving it. The idea of adding glue, such as Elmer’s glue or any craft glue, to pasta is not appropriate for food consumption and is likely a joke or misunderstanding found in some informal discussions.

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        What ai were you using? I’m curious (and expecting either Google AI summary or no response)

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      I respectfully disagree, while you might be able to get some pointers, I would not trust LLMs with the ingredients quantities (given that replacing a number or measure unit is quite easy and would go unnoticed)

      So while I could understand asking: “should I put bell peppers on this dish?”, I would never trust it’s answer to “how much bell pepper should I put in the recipe?” (Which I believe is what recipes are about)

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        I would never trust it’s answer to “how much bell pepper should I put in the recipe?” (Which I believe is what recipes are about)

        I mean to be fair, you’re free to click on the links if you want to verify these things no?

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          Oh, I didn’t know they do links now

          In this case I’ll give you that it can be useful (mostly in reading several recipes and summarizing), but personally I’m still going to do the old school web search (if anything, just to exercise my information retrieval skill, which I believe is important)

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          Why use the AI in the first place then? Just search for the actual recipe sources from the start.

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          So since we have to manually verify everything anyway, the LLM just becomes a mere search engine.

          This contradicts the entire point you claimed it was useful in the first place because we would still have to visit those websites.

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              Because you’re being a pretentious asshole and you yourself do not understand how AI works, nor can you argue against “it isn’t reliable for recipes since it hallucinates”? It’s either that, or you are the only smart person in this thread. Not sure which.

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                it isn’t reliable for recipes since it hallucinates

                This is how it goes:

                • Don’t use AI
                • See memes about AI getting it wrong
                • Believe that AI gets it wrong 100% of the time

                You guys are just as bad as trump supporters

                • Don’t have an EV
                • See memes about EV’s catching on fire
                • Believe that EV’s catch on fire all the time

                8/10

                I’m impressed

                https://youtu.be/Ci-Evf8nQH4?t=934

                Lemmy users:

                Look out you’ll die if you use AI to make some food! Don’t even use it for recommendations or ideas or maybe different things you can try or maybe you want to know a way to do a specific thing or try a slight variant because you might drink battery acid by mistake!!!1

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                  What makes you believe I haven’t used AI before? I’m well acquainted with it. But it simply isn’t a reliable or useful tool for what you want to do with it. You want to make lesson plans or debug code with it, it works well as a sounding board. But you cannot reliably use it for information you don’t already have.

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                  If you prefer instant gratification and “good enough” over robust, verifiable information: be my guest. But it doesn’t make you superior. You are not unique, skilled or brave for using LLMs.

                  I think virtually everyone here has played with them. We’ve all seen better and worse outputs. You are not unique, you just care less about truth and accuracy.

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      Like those that use glue to keep cheese from sliding off the pizza.

      In case you’re not joking, please don’t trust this technology with anything that you are putting into your or someone else’s body. You’re going to have a bad time.

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        In case you’re not joking, please don’t trust this technology with anything that you are putting into your or someone else’s body. You’re going to have a bad time.

        It’s too late buddy

        Similarly, a February study from the University of Sydney, which surveyed more than 2,000 adults, reported that nearly six in ten respondents had asked ChatGPT at least one high-risk health question—queries that would typically require professional clinical input.

        https://observer.com/2025/05/openai-chatgpt-health-care-use/

        Also please don’t go blindly believing all advice you’re given, you obviously don’t use glue on a pizza in the same way you don’t follow google maps through a river or off a pier.

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          You do you, AI bro, you do you. Suggesting that anyone else use a tool that is meant to generate text that sounds confidently factual, without factuality actually being a requirement for the output is silly. Maybe if using a local LLM with a RAG (with the vector DB populated with known good recipes) and having the temp set properly. Then again, LLMs are language models and not good with numbers because they are fundamentally not designed for that kind of thing.

          At that point, it’s less work to just grab a cookbook from the shelf and find a recipe by looking it up in the index. If it’s not in there, it’s probably available in a niche source which can be directly looked at.

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          So in this case you would have to go to another website to find a real recipe anyway.

          Just use the glue like a good acolyte!

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            Just use the glue like a good acolyte!

            I personally wouldn’t but I’m scared I might be talking to someone who drinks it

            So in this case you would have to go to another website to find a real recipe anyway.

            Right, have you used perplexity at all?