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Good. People need to stop renting software.
I dunno, I still find m365 family a great deal. 5TB cloud storage for less then 100 euro a year? And get the best most complète Office suite as a bonus?
If you compare that to the competition it’s a slam dunk. I need cloud storage. I need an office suite.
Same goes for prime here in NL by the way. Unlimited photo storage, free games monthly, streaming, Luna, free shipping for less then 6 euro.
they are great deals til enough ppl sign up, get used to it and attached, then comes price gouging, it happened with adobe
Just wanted to give an idea for pricing of a self hosted alternative:
- 5-6TB drive is around 100 EUR
- Intel NUC as a server is around 200 EUR
- My personal power consumption is 6 kWh per month at 24/7 operation, here that costs 10 EUR per year
You can chose other parts, you may already have some parts, Im giving my own example here.
Keeping in mind you need to be a bit tech savy to set this up, keep it updated, data secure, things may break down the line and require maintenance, etc… The upside: the data is yours, you are reliant on yourself, it can do more than just store files.
But obviously: to each their own!5-6TB drive is around 100 EUR
Really?
I bought a 4TB external hdd ~6 months ago at 149 EUR and thought that was cheap. Dang.
You also need to account for RAID and backups. Storing everything on a single drive without copies is asking for sad times.
Generally yes, and this obviously doubles the cost of storage. The good thing is you have options. In my view, not all data is the same so I view some data as more valuable as other data and can do backups of only specific things on drives I already have.
- work configuring and maintaining
- replacing drives
- dealing with issues
Honest question, what does the current office suite does, or does better, that office 2013 doesn’t?
Nothing.
You get as lot of extra tools which integrate but my honest opinion is nothing.
Thats Why i stated 5 TB cloud storage for less then the competition as usp.
Copilot, copilot everywhere… :p
You can actually “cancel” your account into a “classic” account without copilot. It’s fuckin’ weird and hidden, but you can do it. Obviously no price difference.
There are actually a lot of newer excel features that are not cross compatible.
I was running 2010, then 2013 for a very long time. Eventually I started running into compatibility issues when collaborating on professional and hobby projects until it got to a point where I went for 365. It’s a shame that it’s subscription, but it’s definitely great software
I dunno, the cloud storage part is quite easy to make at home. Granted, the initial price will be steeper (since you need to buy the physical drive). But in two years time, it will have paid for itself and your data will still be yours.
As for the office suite, while I understand that MSOffice is advanced, for the regular user that I am, OnlyOffice is more than enough.
until your house burns down, part of the appeal of cloud storage is that its on the cloud (at some massive server building) lol, and the big companies can be relied on to have their own backups, I just wouldn’t trust my own at home cloud all the way, id need both that and online
Frequently paying any amount of money for anything will always seem like a good deal to anyone who always depends on others to do everything. There’s no shame in needing each other, though. We should strive to be self sufficient but can’t be skilled or resourceful in every field. Abusing the needs of others on the other hand… All these huge companies should burn to the ground for that.
I really hope it’s not like goog where if you ever want to download that data your download speeds are reduced to a crawl and everything about the download is convoluted.
Yeah, it’s why I stopped using Amazon Glacier years ago and use ProtonDrive now. The actual storage costs are pretty reasonable, but if you ever want to download your data, shit gets very expensive very fast.
I think Photoshop CS5 is still a better product than Gimp will ever be. I think this person needs to upgrade to Affinity. While it’s still available to buy, that is.
I’m happy with affinity. Pity it doesn’t run on limux
Apparently there’s a tutorial to make a thing in docker that actually does run it. It’s a whole-ass process though and my friend who uses Linux for most stuff was working on it a while back. Damn shame it’s not a thing, out of the box.
Do you know what this is called or have any links? I’m not finding anything that seems like what you’re describing.
I have been deep down this road, and finally got it working, but there are so many graphical glitches it just became unusable.
My current setup is a windows VM I have running in a docker container that I remote desktop into.
Saying that now, I might be better off just using VirtualBox or the like because the input lag is a pain. Not a massive issue but it’s not the same as using it natively unfortunately.
But since I can easily install Gimp on my linux system it is clearly superior to any proprietary windows exclusive software. I’m so glad I never even bothered with Photoshop in the first place.
I still have PSP9 on my PC.
I hadn’t used my CS6 for years but recently needed Premiere Pro. I hauled out the discs, installed it using an external optical drive, and searched old Outlook PST files for the serial number. It installed on my Win 11 laptop, and it activated when I typed in the serial number.
Long live CS6! Adobe won’t get any more money from me.
I did get lucky when I bought it, though. I ordered and paid for CS5.5 Education version, so that was about AUD$450 instead of AUD$2200, and what turned up was CS5.5, a free licenced copy of CS4 “to help with 32-bit to 64-bit transition” and a download code for CS6, as I’d ordered 5.5 after 6 had been announced. I ended up with licenced copies of CS4, CS5.5, and CS6 for AUD$450
Krita seems like a good free open-source altherative.
For illustration work at least. Photoshop is not the best for illustrations either, almost all illustration-focused apps easily blow it out of the water.
Hell, I was still using PS6 on Win10 until I finally switched to Mint a few months ago. I had to reinstall it repeatedly but it still worked.
Portable CS3 represent
Let me know when we can download cars. For a friend.
gimp and krita up in this bitch
I too still have the cracked installers for CS5 and CS6 but… I switched to Gimp and Krita a very long time ago.
I remember doing an animation internship on the pilot of a TV show most here have heard of (Not gonna dox myself) and CS5 was definitely available at the time, but the studio was still using Flash MX because that was the last version available that Adobe hadn’t fuckin wrecked.
Sup fellow film person (stunts here). I believe it. When creatives find something that works they tend to stick with it.
I’m an artist, and I have that version too, running it under qemu/Win10 (it won’t run on Wine), under my Debian-Testing main OS. However, I have actually moved to Gimp 3 recently for all my work. I use it to make collages ( https://www.instagram.com/eugenia_loli ) and edit my scanned watercolor paintings: https://pixelfed.social/EugeniaLoli The only problem is that Gimp can’t read my old PSDs that have adjustment layers correctly, so I load them first either on that old Photoshop, or online on Photopea, and then export them as TIFFs, to load them back to Gimp. For my newer work, I just use Gimp all the way.
Loli
Uhh
I was expecting different art with that username
It’s my real name :D
That makes sense. These days I am wary of clicking links with “loli” in them especially when they are posted on tech related places. I liked the desert horsey.
Your work is really good! I particularly enjoyed the person in the bath tub with the ankle monitor and the mice sharing a clothesline between their plant houses.
You still don’t own it. You bought a license to use it; like almost any other piece of software. If it came on physical media, you also own the disk it came on, but not the software on the disk. That license may not expire, and they can’t stop it working remotely or take your disk away, but it’s still being “rented.”
Well that sounds effectively like ownership to me
Unless you need to prove you own it in court.
There’s no way to prove you don’t own it at this point, as you’re not required to keep records beyond a certain point (depends on jurisdiction) and creating backups of owned media is lawful.
Let’s say I bought a book. A real hardcover copy of Harry potter and the fucking scarecrow (again).
Do I own it?
I own the physical media, the author or publisher can’t stop my from reading it, or even reading it out loud to a crowd of people. They can’t remotely delete the pages either.
I don’t own the copyrighted text but I do, in fact, own the copy of the book.
Is it a perpetual license that let’s me read the book as long as the physical media is in my posession?
Same goes for the CD. It’s not rented and it’s not a license, OP owns it and can use it. Adobe develops and owns the source code that they compile, package and sell.
I can’t believe they haven’t released an “update” that breaks it.
I’m still using CS3. It’s the only software on my pc at this point that doesn’t have dark mode. I also found out recently that it should run perfectly on Linux using wine, so I intend to try that soon.
One of us! One of us!
I mean, if you buy software and expect 0 updates afterwards I guess that’s fair
There often were updates and they were free…
If you buy software at a version point, (vs the subscription model), why would you expect an update for it? Particularly for free? You chose to buy at a frozen point.
In this day and age people expect security and operational patches. It’s hard work maintaining software, even if it is feature complete.
That model always had the tacit agreement that the company releases early, and the users accept that they are part of a large testing base with one or two major updates to come. Further to this, continued support in the early life drives more sales. There’s a spectrum of users from bleeding edge to 4 versions behind. Some will hold out and never upgrade if key bugs remain, so updates make business sense. Software of this complexity has to be this way to strike a balance to move new features forward.
Because it’s beneficial for the software company’s reputation. People are more likely to buy the software when they know that it’s not going to get a permanently unpatched zero-day the moment the next version comes out.
I mean honestly, the old model was kind of dope. You pay a fairly high price for the software. Updates for that version are free. When they come out with enough new features to release a new milestone version you got to choose whether you upgrade to the milestone or stay on your existing version. True critical security patches were released for At least the last couple of versions.
But you get to decide when the futures warrant you buying again. You got to choose with your wallet and the companies had to deal with that.
If they would have put a bunch of crap in about having the rights to AI scrape all of your content in the old version people would have just said fuck it I’m not upgrading it. But as it stands, if you don’t like it you have to not use the software at all.
