• Ledericas@lemm.eeEnglish
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    2 months ago

    i assume asian owners, but yea asians and hispanic(working in the kitchen) have similar cultures even if not from the same continent. a white owner would give them up in a second.

    • TheDoozer@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      I wonder if the director told that actor “have, just, the worst trigger discipline. Make it look like you have no business handling a firearm.”

      • duhbasser@lemm.eeEnglish
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        2 months ago

        In the movie this is right after he executes 2 Chinese journalist, so lack of trigger discipline kinda makes sense. Oh and he’s about to try to execute a bunch more people in the up coming moments

        • miraclerandy@lemmy.world
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          2 months ago

          Agreed. Dude was unhinged and didn’t give a fuck about any of that in this scene. Which obviously made it more tense

          • duhbasser@lemm.eeEnglish
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            2 months ago

            I’m not sure how well received this movie is but I really enjoyed it. The movie did a good job at not really identifying this characters “military affiliation” as well as the first group of militia they ran into. To my knowledge, nothing really identified these two groups as being affiliated with the government or resistance, so the tendency to just kill everyone you don’t know is probably how most things would get handled in the fallout/duration of a civil war.

    • GrumpyDuckling@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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      2 months ago

      I still think about this scene a lot because I’ve been there sheen relatively normal people casually talked about going to cities and shooting "democrats“ while also talking about the guns they were currently buying. I should have turned them in.

        • GrumpyDuckling@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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          2 months ago

          I have too many family members who are Leo, plus other reasons why they shouldn’t do that. Plus it would be homeland security or FBI for various other reasons. But it could be ICE because I know a lot of immigrants. It would be a clusterfuck.

  • iAvicenna@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    I wouldn’t be surprised if some cop who ate there wasn’t happy with the service he got and organised this shenanigan

  • minorkeys@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Cops will take as much freedom as you give them and often they will attempt more than they have been granted. Never give cops an inch they are not legally entitled to. In democracies, laws exist to grant people freedom from the power of the state, not to grant the state freedom from the power of the people. Any laws that grant cops protection from the people are laws of a tyranny. We get only the protections of the state that our rights make possible and no more. Trading freedom for security gets us neither.

    • goldfndr@lemmy.ml
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      2 months ago

      In democracies, laws exist to grant people freedom from the power of the state, not to grant the state freedom from the power of the people. Any laws that grant cops protection from the people are laws of a tyranny. We get only the protections of the state that our rights make possible and no more. Trading freedom for security gets us neither.

      Correction: In democracies, laws exist to grant power to the state, not to grant people freedom from the state. For example, I’m guessing that in your nearest democracy, there’s probably not a law granting you the freedom to stand still for more than a minute or lie down for more than a minute. The people’s freedom is a default.

      Now, perhaps what you were thinking of was that some laws have exceptions (that might be phrased as affirmative defenses). But those aren’t granting freedom to the people, they are restricting law enforcement. It’s like a “tax refund” — the government isn’t giving you their money, it’s returning your own money.

  • corsicanguppy@lemmy.caEnglish
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    2 months ago

    I wanna see security footage of them posted online, so other businesses in the area know there are vigilantes posing as secret police.

  • NoMadLadNZ@lemmy.nzEnglish
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    2 months ago

    This is how the brownshirts operated. Just thugs, power trippin’, and attracting the absolute worst people who WANT to wear balaclavas and have the excuse to be intimidating assholes and have the power to bundle people into vans (or railcars).

  • _core@sh.itjust.works
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    2 months ago

    What are the odds it was a couple magats pretending to be ICE to fuck with immigrants or people the think are immigrants.

    • TheFriar@lemm.ee
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      2 months ago

      Depressingly high.

      But also…depressingly low. The fact that they couldve been actual govt officials behaving this way is…worse?

    • Yardy Sardley@lemmy.ca
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      2 months ago

      Odds are pretty damn good, I’d say.

      Still, it’s a distinction barely worth making. Garden varity pigs doing this shit are equally as unjust as brand name Pigs doing it.

  • i_stole_ur_taco@lemmy.ca
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    2 months ago

    From the set up, I’d have expected the agents to have unleashed whatever was in that manila folder. You’d think it was important if it was one of the only things they brought in.

    Now I’m thinking it was less ICE agents carrying a warrant and more “militia leader bought a pack of folders at Staples” and told his racist minions a folder will get you through doors like wearing hi-vis or a ladder will.