• technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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    2 days ago

    This state was literally concocted so slavers could violently enforce their disgusting privilege.

    This is what fascism is. This kid is a real american.

    • Denjin@lemmings.worldEnglish
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      2 days ago

      He once made a tweet that vaguely criticised a Conservative figure. wOkE aGeNdA KiLLs AgAIn

    • LanguageIsCool@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      3 days ago

      They’re asking if he was on anti-depressants. Everyone else is a murderer, terrorist, what have you. When it’s one of theirs? Just a misguided kid on SSRIs.

      • ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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        2 days ago

        Tbf, it’s a common conspiracy theory that all of them (or at least a significant portion) are on SSRIs. I think it comes from a mix of

        A. Some of them were iirc, but I’m not sure who. It’s also possible it just was used as an excuse by a parent, or kid who didn’t die in their shooting.

        B. Simply just the fast part of the commercials that says “if you are experiencing suicidal or homicidal ideation while taking lexapro, talk to your doctor immediately…” and then people being people, that gets extrapolated into “the shooters are on SSRIs and this is why it happens.” People are searching for answers as to the underlying causes, on both sides of the “gun bad” and “gun good” debate, the same way some focus on “if we got rid of guns” those that know “well my gun doesn’t make me want to shoot up schools so it isn’t the guns” but have never taken SSRIs might be more apt to blame the thing they’re less familiar with, for instance.

        C. Afaik, it hasn’t actually been studied very well and actually could play a role in at least some of the incidents, but we don’t “know.” First of all, I think HIPAA presents some challenges in studying this, as I think even prisoners have the right to medical privacy. And on top of that I wouldn’t be surprised to learn Big Pharma’s lobbyists are hard at work making sure this is not well studied to the best of their ability, it’s kinda just their MO to the degree I’d be surprised if they weren’t doing that. Our pharma lobby is just as bad as tobacco about that, if not worse.

        Personally, I’d actually like to see this possible link or lack thereof studied in depth myself, if for no other reason than to quell the conspiracy theory, or if a link is found then maybe we can do something about that, I think only good can come from at least just studying it.

        The few studies that I have seen actually suggest there may actually be a link, but I don’t know exactly how rigorous those were or if it’s enough to indicate causation rather than simply correlation, and it’s not specific to active shooters but simply “violent crime” (of which shootings are obviously one, but it could be “increased risk of simple assault, but not murder” without narrowing it down, who knows.

        https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4570770/

        With age and sex stratification, there was a significant association between SSRIs and violent crime convictions for males aged 15 to 24 y (HR = 1.40, 95% CI 1.13–1.73, p = 0.002) and females aged 15 to 24 y (HR = 1.75, 95% CI 1.08–2.84, p = 0.023). However, there were no significant associations in those aged 25 y or older.

        Seems to suggest to me that at the ages these (typically male) shooters usually are, there actually may be a significant enough percentage to suggest a possible causation? I’d still like to see it studied further though, especially if it can be a study specifically regarding active shooter incidents, and also I’d like to know if “was taking them and stopped” plays a role over “is taking them currently” or vice versa. I think it’s at least worth a look, especially considering this study itself concludes:

        The increased risk we found in young people needs validation in other studies.

      • mke@programming.devEnglish
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        2 days ago

        Contrast with keying a car and being labeled a terrorist. By scratching a cybertruck, you become an enemy of the state—something a republican school shooter could never dream of.

  • dream_weasel@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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    3 days ago

    Is this where we say: “this wouldn’t have happened if Florida controlled guns like a blue state!” And then offer thoughts and prayers? Seems like how it goes with the shoe on the other foot.

    • Lemminary@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      3 days ago

      I’m not aware of any blue state with an effective gun control system. And I’m not saying that to dunk on Dems but as a general observation of the US as a whole.

      And aren’t “thoughts and prayers” a conservative thing to do? I’m a bit confused by your comment, it’s giving mixed messages.

      • Jiggle_Physics@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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        3 days ago

        yeah our gun control laws suck. even if you are on the side of control, if you look at what we do, how, and why, you will have to admit our gun regulations are dumb.

  • Formfiller@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    3 days ago

    Young white men are being indoctrinated with 24/7 propaganda telling them they are the real victims

        • Letsdothisagain@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          2 days ago

          I’m sorry, I try to keep my media intake low, but what is being said that makes these white men feel like victims? Or, portraying them as the victim?

            • Letsdothisagain@lemmy.worldEnglish
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              17 hours ago

              You can’t classify all of America as a “racist shithole”, it is just too big. We kinda have most of the spectrum. There are many towns and cities that are very welcoming, but there is the opposite as well. And some states compared to others are very different in their tolerance levels. (Real quick, Texas is bigger than most countries, i.e. Japan, Germany, the UK., etc.)

              But no, I live in a very diverse area, and in my area, at least, there are very few racist assholes. I traveled quite a bit around the states, for over 15 years, and I have seen many types of people. Many types of racist. But they are a very small minority. The shittiest minority groups are the loudest. That’s why they can be loudest, because they are the shittiest. It’s weird, but that’s how it works.

              You know what other tiny group of the population is super loud? Like, you can’t stop hearing about them/from them? It’s the transsexuals. They are the loudest, most in your face… anyway.

              Honestly, you sound like a little judgemental twat.

              • multifariace@lemmy.worldEnglish
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                2 days ago

                Even if you were a troll, your questions are worth asking. All the reactionary downvoting and accusations are because you made them have to think about their position so they get defensive and echo their aggregated hate. I wonder if they also espouse the lack of empathy of the other party. Imagine the hypocrisy.

          • millie@slrpnk.netEnglish
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            2 days ago

            Are you really fully unaware of incels, the manosphere, and the alt-right pipeline? This shit is all over social media.

            There’s a strong encouragement for men to fall into this “redpill” philosophy that casts everyone who doesn’t look like them, especially anyone who ends up on the less-privileged end of any measure of intersectional privilege, as an aggressor attempting to steal their place in society and “replace” them.

            Have you heard anyone complaining about how you can’t make jokes anymore or can’t compliment women anymore? They’re echoing a hallucination of white male oppression by queer feminist socialists. In response they elected Trump and spend their days rumbling around in their massive coal-rolling pickup trucks that have never seen a speck of dirt or a heavier load than a few groceries or maybe a couch.

            • TootTootComingThru@lemmy.worldEnglish
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              2 days ago

              What’s the point of bringing this weird, condescending Reddit energy to what seems to be a genuine question?

              Not everyone lives on the internet, not everyone knows what an incel is, or who Andrew Tate is or what a manosphere is. Why not just answer the question normally? Holy fucking moly.

              In response they elected Trump

              Young incel type white guys did? I thought most of them didn’t even bother to turn up. Look fuck the extremisation of the yutes through social media, it’s genuinely awful and will likely have long lasting effects but we can’t put the blame on them for all the ails in the world without recognizing that a lot of different segments of our population are fucking up right now and are in some small part contributing to more people being alienated from the left. You have to at least admit that it’s a little ironic to say that they’re imagining everything while also seemingly putting electing Trump solely on them. It’s ultimately counter productive in the long run.

            • Letsdothisagain@lemmy.worldEnglish
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              2 days ago

              It’s weird… cuz, even if there is a bias against white men, its still white men that rule the most of the world and have all the money, and run the major corporations. But white men feel like they’re getting replaced?

              On the other hand, America has always been a mix, but always had a strong foundation of white men, and it does feel like that base might be changing. Something is changing

  • Cocopanda@futurology.todayEnglish
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    3 days ago

    They were saying he was an illegal all over MAGAtard social media. Until the facts came out. Then they started deleting in mass to cover up their lies.

          • StJohnMcCrae@slrpnk.netEnglish
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            2 days ago

            No I understand what en masse means. I just don’t subscribe to your inflexible interpretation.

            Language is a tool for communication. It’s for the masses, not something to be gate kept or preserved by the priests lingual orthodoxy. If the words you use convey the intended meaning to the listener, then the wording is adequate.

            If everyone’s use of language was as rigid as the people insisting we can only use the phrases as they existed when they were imported to an English court by a Norman conqueror a thousand years ago, then we’d all still be communicating by banging rocks together and grunting. The English language evolves every day. It’s alive.

            • meowMix2525@lemm.eeEnglish
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              2 days ago

              Ok but the argument is that it might not “convey the intended meaning to the listener” because ‘in mass’ can mean multiple things in English, whereas in French ‘en masse’ specifically means ‘as a group’. It’s not a linguistic purity thing it’s literally just to prevent misinterpretation.

              edit: You can’t say “English is an evolving language” and then ignore the evolution in the phrase being carried over in the first place. If there was no reason for it then we’d just be using the English term.

              • StJohnMcCrae@slrpnk.netEnglish
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                2 days ago

                Nobody here misinterpreted it except the purists who did it intentionally to troll, show off and talk down to people.

    • TheOakTree@lemm.eeEnglish
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      3 days ago

      Not gonna lie I thought your username was Copaganda at first.

      No, I do not have dyslexia lol

  • Camelbeard@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    3 days ago

    I was recently thinking it’s says a lot about a culture, where kids shoot up schools regularly, but immigrants getting a terrible treatment never seem to shoot up an ICE office or other government building.

    • supersquirrel@sopuli.xyzEnglish
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      3 days ago

      People in US culture want to think this is a product of white christian men getting hurt and isolated to the point that the poor innocent souls wander into committing a school shooting.

      The negative mental health is only part of the equation and isn’t even critical to it, what IS critical is teaching christian white men that they have the inherent right given who they are to commit violence and nobody else does.

      This is why you see that “incongruity”.

    • huppakee@lemm.eeOPEnglish
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      3 days ago

      I think both are part of the same culture to be honest, they are just in very different positions both pushed to an extreme situation (the kids shooting up schools and the government officials threating immigrants like crap). Personally I believe you get what you give and this is the result of a society that is getting what it has been giving (or not giving, really). Really sad situation where a lot of people get way less than they deserve (the parents of the killed kids, the children of the deported families etc)

    • the_q@lemm.eeEnglish
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      3 days ago

      Careful… You’ll enrage the gun lovers who will tell you how important having a gun right now is while also not using the guns right now for the intended purpose of feeding the liberty tree. There is no difference between a coward and a coward with a gun.

      • BreadOven@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        3 days ago

        Haha. That’s fair. I’m also not American, so gun control is slightly different where I am.