• RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world
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    11 days ago

    I think it’s a fucking asshole for not throwing citizen Trump in a deep dark prison cell the second he stepped out of the White House.

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          One could argue no us president is innocent, no?

          I don’t really know. I’m not American. I just find the scapegoating funny. And dumb af. Equal parts of both, really.

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          I kept telling people, Biden is OK, he seems to be getting stuff done…BUT he’s not doing anything about the trump/insurrection/undermining-the-fundamentals-of-this-country. I got tsked, poo-pooed, and was called way too radical many times for three years. I would rather have been wrong.

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      It seems to work just fine for the right, so I’m not sure why there’s a double standard on the left. The truth is, it’s not really a problem for most people. They just use it and any other excuse they can to justify voting against the left party or leftist politicians. This is often because they support racist, misogynistic, or authoritarian ideas that sound bad when said out loud. So instead, they look for reasons to say the other person is bad and can’t be voted for.

      I expect some people will respond by trying to point out how bad the left is over the right for some reason, which only ends up proving my point. It’s likely that anyone who does this is just trying to deflect from their own side’s issues rather than addressing the real problems.

      Edit just to add: Saying the left is bad is one thing, saying they are worse than the right or shit only smells when they do it is just ludicrous…

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        If wealth inequality is getting worse and the president tells me that I’m doing great despite my proportional wealth being less than a medieval peasant then that means the President is lying.

        The difference between religiously indoctrinated bigots and the college educated is you can’t lie to to college educated and have them love you for it.

        If they were honest about the economy, instead of trying to gaslight people who can see they are being gaslit, then they would have had more support.

        But aknowledging wealth inequality means Neoliberals aknowledging their role in perpetuating wealth inequality, and forcing their rich doners to make concessions, which they are to cowardly to do.

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    I’ll let him know once my college loans are forgiven, the genocide stops in Palestine, and he sends us all the rest of the relief checks he promised if he got the two senate seats in Georgia he needed. Then he said, “no I meant $2000 total minus the $1400 you already got while Trump was in office.” Dude is a turd and a weak turd at that. He deported more people than Trump. Trump just brags more.

    • Eugene V. Debs' Ghost@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      11 days ago

      Yeah the only difference is Trump loudly declares the bad things. I wish Biden followed on his good promises.

      Sorry you got downvoted for remembering all the failures and things people try to gaslight us about.

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      Then he said, “no I meant $2000 total minus the $1400

      That really pissed me off too, how they changed the messaging abruptly after the election and just pretended they’d never said it. Bastards.

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    Trump making the capitalist hellhole worse, does not make the capitalist hellhole acceptable. No matter if the presidents name was Trump, Biden, Obama, Bush, Clinton, Bush or Reagan.

    An economy that cannot provide access to basic healthcare and education for its citzens is a failed economy, no matter how high the price tags of stocks traded by coked up psychopaths are.

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      If Biden or Harris were president now live would be better for millions, perhaps even billions, of people on this planet.

      Both sidesing this it lazy and ineffective.

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        Going for the “lesser of two evils” over the past 40 years at least is what brought us to Trumps presidency. In particular Biden and Harris brought us to his second presidency, embracing the support of Dick Cheney, which is a Bush era war criminal Republican foreign invader mass murderer.

        Yes i both side this. The Democrats in their current shape are a big part of the problem and they oppose getting towards a solution. Because a solution would be against the US oligarchy and the DNC is equally representing that oligarchies interests. Just the flavor of oligarchs is different between the two parties.

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            I agree, people should have challenged Biden and Harris in the primaries.

            They should have voted non aligned and disrupted DNC events until a proper primary was held. The inaction in pushing the Democrats to bringing up a non genocide, non mass deportations, non economically cynical and classist towards the poor candidate was an issue. However that should not distract us from the institution that fought against getting any such candidate and instead pushed Biden until it was unbearable and then switched to Harris.

            The inaction of the people was part of the problem. As the largest block was non voters, if these had went for an agreed upon third party instead, they could have made the presidential race even if the DNC kept blocking any progressive candidate.

            At least now many people become fully aware of the true colors of the US empire and the evil it does to its citizens and people all over the world. Many people before deemed these acceptable under a Democratic president. Now is the chance to rebuild a proper political and economic system in the US. This is why it is so crucial to not let the Democrats off the hook either. There will be no healing in the US as long as the Republican and Democrat elites remain in power.

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              Primaries will never happen during a party’s incumbency.

              We need to fix the FPTP by replacing it with Ranked Choice, and also get rid of the electoral college. Then, party primaries become irrevalent, since the spoiler effect is gone. I could just vote for an independent Bernie or AOC and skip the middleman (the democratic party)

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              When Biden won the first primary the choices were Trump or Biden.

              When he stepped down and Harris won the second primary the choices became Trump or Harris.

              Either Biden or Harris would have been much better choices then Trump so both sidesing this is lazy and ineffective.

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                There wasn’t a proper primary for Biden. There was no primary for Harris. She just got all the delegates pledged from Biden. And they were destined to make sure that Trump or a similiar candidate would win the 2028 election if he didn’t win already in 2024. And this is a continuation of the Clinton campaign, that almost comically made sure that Trump would be the only one addressing the issues of working class Americans.

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                  The biggest problem with reactionary progressives right now is that they want yo tear down the system without putting in the effort to rebuild a new one.

                  Trump is a clear and present danger to many people right now and Biden or Harris would be much better.

                  After they won their primaries it was a choice between them or Trump so both sidesing this situation is both lazy and ineffective.

          • nickwitha_k (he/him)@lemmy.sdf.org
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            No people voting for Trump or sitting out elections got us a Trump presidency.

            This has been true for 40 years at least. Leftists pushing anti-electoralism/accelerationism are a big part of why we’re in this mess and why the Overton window has been able to be dragged so far to the Right. Protest (non-)voting having any impact to improve the world is bunk and likely to some degree an idea nurtured by authoritarian state actors.

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              Why would people vote for a party that says it doesn’t want them? Democrats are owed votes, they have to be earned. But Democrats every years try to appease “moderate” Republicans (as if that has ever actually been a thing) while telling everyone else to pound sand.

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                And yet Right-wing extremists have had incredible success in steering the GOP in the direction that they want, despite resistance, by actually engaging in electrical politics.

                Your “point” is bunk and nothing more than an excuse to avoid attempting to bring positive changes without offering up vulnerable populations as sacrifice. There is no moral high-ground for anyone who engages in anti-electoralism/accelerationism.

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                  What i am saying is that the GOP has spent the last 30 years catering to their extreme base, and it has brought them everything they want. Meanwhile the Democrats insist on shutting down anything to the left of Ronald Regan, and so their signature legislation in the past 20 years was just the Republican healthcare plan from the 90’s. The DNC will continue to be a useless party unless they start offering radical changes to American government instead of sticking to 20th century Neoliberalism.

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    The democrats must be so giddy. They don’t need to move to the left one iota as long as Trump and MAGA is fucking up this bad.

    No hope. No change. Corporatist#67 for 2028!

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    He wasn’t great but he wasn’t batshit crazy like Trump. Sure he should have pushed for universal healthcare, a universal income, taxing the rich more, etc.

    The only advantage of Trump being this fucking nuts is America should swing left harder than ever in 2028. Maybe we can get some billionaires to pay their share and some awesome social services to catch with the planet. But that all depends if we even have an election.

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    Bad still bad. Ignoring real poverty, homelessness and struggle because “line go up” was not good. No reason to rehabilitate an imperialist billionaire loving war criminal because his successor is arguably worse in many ways.

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    My family has been paycheck to paycheck since about 2012, nothing has changed for that. I don’t care about the stock market, I care about an income for the low income people like me. No president in my life time has done that.

    Trump never will, Biden could have put pressure on congress and chose not to.

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    Anyone who bothers paying attention knew Republicans were going to fuck our economy up. They always do. But even I am shocked at how fast it’s happening.

    Doesn’t matter. This country is too stupid to learn from mistakes. And down the ship goes.

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      The best part about Biden’s presidency was not having to read the news because the president was gonna make a huge mess the next day.