Edit: The admins have told me if I don’t say this was an accident then they will remove the post.

It’s is verifiably an accident. It is also extremely convenient for the people she threatened.

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      According to the article, that’s the families guess and the autopsy/ examination hasn’t even been completed/reported yet. Little odd to be really successful in an “intelligent” field and have epileptic seizures that kill you in your sleep.

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      I’m like 99% sure the US government is capable of discreetly poisoning someone to have an epileptic seizure

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        If you think GRU doesn’t have activated operatives operating on US soil, you’re dream’in.

        Seizures aka “you know we did it but you can’t prove it” is Vladdy’s trademark.

        The US fingerprint is more like the 2 Boing whistleblowers.

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          Hes usually much less subtle than than a seizure, particularly for a victim with a documented history of seizures.

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            An assassination doesn’t have to be by a gun or poisoning, it can be done by stealing and/or replacing her seizure medication.

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              Either one of those should leave evidence in an autopsy and in a bottle at the scene. Putin doesnt normally kill people like that though, at least when its a revenge killing. He wants everyone to know that he did it, that there is nothing anyone can do about it, and that anyone could be next if they cross him.

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            Smart assassin’s get as much info as they can on their victim and use methods to make it look like natural death

            Assassin find out they have seizures, they make it look like death by seizures

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            They use those things when they want the world to know it was them. The number of countries with access to Polonium or Novichok is extremely limited, and both are very easy and obvious to detect in an autopsy.

            When they don’t want the world to know, they make it look like a suicide or accident, e.g. falling out of windows.

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              I don’t know what percentage of a population of oligarchs fall out of windows each year unaided, but when it’s the fifteenth or sixteenth it does start to get somewhat obvious that something untoward is happening.

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          To be fair - most assassinations by Putin have a much more obvious tie.

          She didn’t fall out of a window, she didn’t get exposed to Novichok, and it doesn’t sound like polonium.

          That being said, still could have been assassination but by other Russian mobsters.

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            Sadly, it could have been the stress of losing her career and possible threats in her future that exacerbated her condition.

            Or really it could have just been shitty luck too.

            Let’s stay focused on the real conspiracies with Trump, musk, vote manipulation (look at mail in ballot rejections), and Putin’s digital army garbage.

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        The word RUSSIAN was plastered before you like 9 times and you came to the conclusion “USA DID THIS”

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          The players are on the same team regardless of nationality. The war is beyond nations, but nations are a tool to forward the war. Humanity vs the soulless. This war is bigger than borders.

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        Evidently the family had said she had a history, so they would have had to be playing a long game. I suppose they could have been opportunistic about her condition to make a plausible death, but a plausible death to someone no longer involved in any inconvenient cases doesn’t help any such cases nor does it “send a message”.

        Sometimes things just happen.

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            You missed the point that they have no motive to put effort into making it look natural. She was no longer a threat, so an accidental death does nothing for them. They could have killed her to “send a message” but that would be undone by making it look like natural causes.

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                Bad people typically do bad things because they provide some perceived benefit. I have no doubt that Russia would kill her for the benefit of sending a message, but they wouldn’t try so hard to make it look like an accident.

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                  You would if you wanted to leave alive and make it look suspicious enough it could have been anybody. The country she represented has a lot of enemies all over the world.

                  It’s such a trope it’s in like every fake spy movie. If you get caught we don’t know you.

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              Well they do have a motive to make it look natural, they’re still actively fishing for plausible deniability, they’re not going to go throwing people out of windows here. If she had a history of seizures, they without question knew it and could leverage it into unaliving her. The idea that she was resigned and no longer any kind of threat is naive, she could be in possession of a lot of damaging intel, given her activities.

              I’m not saying this is definitively what happened, I’m just saying that dismissing it outright is probably too optimistic. Some consideration should be given to the fact that a) she was young, b) she went after Russian interests and c) she’s dead.

              Even if they were to find something in the autopsy though, I doubt we will ever hear anything other than “natural causes” because America is fully a Russian vassal state.

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                unaliving her.

                You don’t need to use Newspeak to bypass filters here. It’s okay to say killing or murdering or assassinating

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          But, but, if things just happen how could I show I’m smarter than everyone else by figuring out the REAL cause? Nope, must be a conspiracy.

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          I’m more than willing to accept the “things just happen” theory considering the timeline we live in. Pieces of shit like Trump and McConnell live forever and get everything they want while good people die in their 40s.

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            Shitbirds only get stressed when they’re worried they’re going to be held accountable. Everything else is an act. Stress is a killer, and the amount they feel is minuscule compared to anyone who gives a fuck.

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    People being disappeared, Opponents dying in suspicious circumstances, threats of invasion to neighbours.

    Time to get your house in order.

    America is speeding towards it’s death throws.

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      Agreed, except 2 seconds of investigation would have revealed this woman likely died of an epileptic seizure, which she had a history of.

      But hey! This bullshit post is getting upvotes! Jump on the bandwagon!

      (Like there isn’t enough evil shit going down, you people have to jump on obvious fakery.)

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        The article says that, yes. But can you really trust the “official” reports these days? It’s become increasingly apparent that everything is for purchase in the states, including the law.

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          saying its all imaginary

          I don’t remember them saying that. In fact I’m seeing them say there’s plenty of real evil to pay attention to. You rejecting a very legitimate explanation in favor of one based in feels is pretty fucking dumb

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          Sometimes, the simplest explanation is the truth. Things like this happen.

          Why do you think an assassination is more probable than an accidental death for someone with a medical history? Is this based on facts, or is it just because it fits your narrative better? How many attorneys prosecuting Russians are there in the US right now? How many of them died at a young age in the last weeks?

          Facts matter.

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      we entered our ‘death throes’ when Nixon was pardoned, it’s just taken some time to start rotting from within

      We live on a cultural whale-fall and we’re eating ourselves now

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    Edit: The admins have told me if I don’t say this was an accident then they will remove the post.

    It’s is verifiably an accident. It is also extremely convenient for the people she threatened.

    Dude, that’s a weak-ass response. Do yourself a favor and delete this.

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    “Debunked stupid conspiracy theory” -yeah but we live in a world where many previously unthinkable and unbelievable things have acrually happened. We live in a world where it’s 100% plausible that difficult people could be “taken care of” by the current reĝime.

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    Aber was found dead in Alexandria, Virginia, on March 22, 2025, at age 43.[11] A family friend said that her death was “believed to be the result of a longstanding medical issue”,[12][13] which was later revealed to be epilepsy.[14] Authorities did not initially release an official cause of death.[2][15][16] Four days later, the Alexandria Police Department said in a statement that Aber likely died of natural causes, but that they would wait for the final ruling of the chief medical examiner.

    i mean, that’s pretty concrete.

    Assuming this wiki info checks out. I would be inclined to believe it. Unfortunate timing i suppose, but it could happen at any time.

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      Could all be lies. We see a similar pattern of russian officials that died suddenly in the last decades and it’s often a longstanding medical issue.

      I wouldn’t trust official US reports nowadays. There’s also the MS13 angle, but I’d believe they would have promoted their actions in a more grim fashion.

      Police and examiner are also easily bought.

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        i suppose, but then you would also expect that the same thing would happen in the US, this is the first death, where are the rest? Perhaps in the future, but we have no basis to assume anything right now.

        I wouldn’t trust official US reports nowadays.

        this would be county level, possibly state level examination, almost certainly with the independent authority of the examiner in question, the likelihood that this is federally appointed would be baffling.

        Police and examiner are also easily bought.

        It would be easy to find evidence? Paper trails? Testimony? The family even? There are so many arguments against this.

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    What a shame on so many levels. If there are whistles to be blown, it would take a brave-ass blower to do so. It would mean a lot to do so though.

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    peters thiels boy toy was found dead under suspicious circumstances, but that never got news. his COD was “suicide”, an important thing to point out is the boy toy was erring his concerns and annoyances of thiels support anti-lgbtq+ policies, aligning with the gop.