• FMT99@lemmy.world
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    11 days ago

    Well I’ll say two things, first the old /r/conservative would never have allowed this open of a discussion. I don’t know if these stayed up long but I remember people even going very slightly against the Fox narrative being banned.

    Also this guy, completely and utterly misguided though I believe he is, at least has the courage of his convictions. He’s willing to make a sacrifice for what he thinks is good for the country. I very much doubt he’s right but still, that’s more than most people can say.

      • YtA4QCam2A9j7EfTgHrH@infosec.pub
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        11 days ago

        Yeah. The dude that came up with the term cognitive dissonance described this process in his book When Prophesy Fails. Basically when you are in a cult and your doomsday ends up being a normal day you have a freak out of cognitive dissonance. This isn’t great because people don’t like having their strongly held beliefs shown to be invalid. So they must come up with a post hoc rationalization as to why their doomsday didn’t come true and why they are still right.

        • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          10 days ago

          Yep, and the more they do it, the easier it becomes until it’s second nature.

          Republicans understood this, which is why they tapped into the Christian demographic. People who have already been primed to ignore constant cognitive dissonance.

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        11 days ago

        100%

        People do not vote for the candidate they think is going to cost them their livelihood.

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        11 days ago

        May also just be a troll tactic. Sowing retrofitted justification with ai. The first comment is bait.

        I honestly cant tell anymore. Dead internet theory moving fast on that site.

    • superglue@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      10 days ago

      When you receive information that proves you wrong you can do 1 of 2 things. You can admit you were wrong, or you can double down and twist the situation to avoid admitting it. “This is actually what I thought would happen and I wanted this”. I actually think its cowardly. It takes courage to stand up and admit they were wrong.

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        Not if you haven’t actually changed your mind. If you believe it’s at your expense but actually better for the country in the long term. Again, I don’t think he’s right but he may think he is.

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      11 days ago

      The question remains, does “good for the country” mean good for the citizens, or good for the elite?

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    10 days ago

    making yourself employable doesn’t mean shit when the local community faces economic collapse since they are floating on top of the economic output of a single factory. Dude good luck finding a job with all the millions of other people moving to places where the work will be.

    Also I wonder what he thinks the long term gains are? Dude thinks the economy is a muscle that needs to experience stress to get stronger. In the long term other countries will stop doing business with America, since they found more reliable partners.

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    10 days ago

    It’s crazy that people will destroy their own lives just to tell trans people which bathroom to use. 🙄

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      11 days ago

      My absolute favorite conservative moment is when they get struggle sessioned because they finally know what they’re talking about about, and it goes against the MAGA narrative.

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    10 days ago

    Hope he suffers as much as humanely possible. He voted for an anti-democratic felon rapist to own the libs. As far as I’m concerned he’s a traitor.

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    10 days ago

    Cutting off your own arm to “own the libs”. Nice job! Glad to know some people are so proud to vote against their interests. Keep it up!

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    That guy is cooking on copium. Downing in it.

    There is no such thing as “gains” here, long or short term. This is 100% bad.

    If you want more local production, you incentivize that, not hugely disincentivize everything else.

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      11 days ago

      What do you mean? There are plenty of gains to be had…

      …for the already rich and powerful.

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      10 days ago

      Maybe if there was a group who resisted leopards and helped these poor brainwashed fools?

      But apparently libs just wanna condescend all the way down.

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        Why shouldn’t we? It’s been 10 years since trump came down that escalator and nothing has changed. He’s a corrupt idiot and a vile, disgusting human without a single redeeming quality. He has never had a real answer for any question he’s ever been asked, he just bumbles and bullshits his way through and he’s not even good at it. If you heard a 5 year old speak the way trump does, you’d think to yourself that kid has a serious issue with both truthfulness and basic comprehension.

        We’ve tried explaining it logically, we’ve tried begging and pleading, we’ve tried pointing out his many, many failures and disastrous decisions that are a daily humiliation for all of America. But the fuck your feelings crowd felt that it was more important to own the libs than to have a stable and prosperous USA. At best, those who support trump are perfectly fine with violence and harm being done to others as long as they think it will benefit them personally, and at worst, they’re straight up bigots and nazis. But either way, they’re all fucking idiots, because unless they’re billionaires, they’re all going to suffer with the rest of us.

        So fuck all trump supporters, they deserve nothing better than scorn, contempt, and condescension. They’ve shown us all who they really are. They’re the enemy of both common sense and decency, and the stakes have gotten way too high to waste time and energy coddling their feelings.

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    11 days ago

    I voted for what’s best for the country moving forward

    Bigotry? Ignorance of economics? Or both?

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      11 days ago

      Both and probably a lot more. He’s pretty confident that this won’t affect him too much. I am sure the leopards continue to circle for a second pass at him.

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        11 days ago

        Or that if it does, it’s a sacrifice he’s willing to make for Glorious Leader.