The Problem with the left is that they actually have different opinions. The right is just different shades of Nazis. The left is a bunch of fundimentally different approaches to make the world the world a better place. Therefore, of course the Nazis are going to win.
What we are talking about is the paradox of inclusivity. Either the 99% oppress the 1%, or the 1% oppress the 99%. From an ethical, a democratic, a Constitutional, and an ecological standpoint, oppressing the 1% would be the right thing.
The Left seems to be made of up a bunch of different coalitions that can’t agree on the priorities to enact. People are for something but they can’t agree on what.
The Right seems to be made up of a bunch of different coalitions that can’t agree on the priorities to repeal. People are against something but can’t agree on what. They also have Nazis.
the american “experiment” is over. It has reached its logical conclusion
Tuna melts? Or fascism?
I spend WAY too much time online and see all the stupid viral videos because of it, and I pay attention to politics a LOT more than the average American does getting their hour of
newspropaganda from billionaire-owned media each night from the TV and facebook posts from their bubble of “friends”.What fucking viral Tuna Melt moment?
Only 80 year old geriatric with dementia would consider that viral, wait.
What fucking viral Tuna Melt moment?
I’m pretty sure she’s being ironic. The giveaway is “very memorable” – if it really were memorable you wouldn’t say it that way.
It’s like when a videogame company shows. A graph of total accounts for a game instead of the actual revenue, because the revenue numbers are bad, and the only positive is the number of accounts
ERROR: USA.exe has crashed
Simulation is now shutting down
Simulation is now shutting down
If only it was going to be that quick and painless.
Just waiting on the Blue Screen.
Another party winning an election democratically is hardly the end of the world
Well imagine you have a worldwide climate crisis.
Then the most powerful country in the world pulls a Weimar 1933
I don’t know if after 4 years (of there even is an election anymore), if theres still time to save this fucking mess.
Wrong view.
Republicans that already were good with media won.
Democratvoters are not selecting for social media savy.
Plus, the deck is stacked against Democrats.
I’ve posted it before but the way to get “media attention” is to be controversial and a bit shameless
Republicans are great at this. “Ban immigrants”, “all weapons should be permanently legal for everyone”, “ban abortion in all cases”, “ban gays”, these extreme messages are embraced by the party. Algorithms pick up on content that is engaged upon. People engage on this content regardless of their viewpoint. Even if you hate these views you are more likely to click and view out of rage, to comment your disbelief and to say “fuck this stupid bullshit”
Democrats are terrible at this. They abhor the controversial messaging from the left. They embrace weak messaging that sinks like “maybe some mild economic reform”. They embrace weak counter messaging like “gay people are actually valid”, “abortion should be left alone”, “maybe regulate guns a little” and then it gets trampled by right wing commenters and voices.
They need to embrace the right wing formula, frankly. “90% tax bracket for income over 10 million dollars”, “state funded abortion mills”, “ban all guns”, “mandatory lgbt education in public schools”, “death penalty for oligarchs”, etc. stop softening the message because you’re worried about alienating 4% of old white voters. It’s clearly not working
I agree to some extent. But you have to realize that it isn’t 4% of voters. Trump won ~77 million votes this election vs Kamala’s ~75 million. That’s incredibly close, mainly because she tried to pander to the majority.
There’s nothing she could’ve really done much differently this cycle that would’ve clenched the election with 100% certainty. There were simply too many factors working against her, like the shitty economy and the GOP’s massive disinformation campaigns promising to turn everything around. A huge chunk of voters are already admitting how “shocked” they are with some of the shit Trump’s administration is doing. This is due to microtargeted advertising, meaning that the many voters get completely different political ads on social media that leave out their extremist positions. My theory is that the DNC seems to not be very good at taking advantage of this capability, choosing to just provide blanketed campaign messaging that’s mainly the same for everyone.
Sorry, got a bit rambly and off track there. I’m tired.
My theory is that the DNC seems to not be very good at taking advantage of this capability.
Or maybe it’s the fact that all social media platforms are in the hands of a few people who happened to stand in the front row during Trump’s inauguration.
Dems don’t have the capability cause their enemies control the algorithms.People like Zuckerberg only care about money and power. Meta will happily accept the DNC’s advertising money.
That all being said, the DNC could’ve also outlawed political advertising on social media when they had the majority in the Senate and house years ago.
They support Trump cause his entire platform is “give billionaires free reign and no taxes”. They’ll never support Democrats over him, and never have.
And outlawing political advertising (by private actors) on social media would have been reversed by the Supreme Court. Even before it was taken over by the right. It’s very clearly against the 1st amendment.
I’m well agreed, but:
“all weapons should be permanently legal for everyone”
No one is saying this, no except liberals.
It’s not a thing. I’m in all kinds of gun-owner spaces. This is not a fucking thing that is proposed. At all.
It’s utterly false and makes you look disconnected from reality.
There are absolutely people who think that all weapons should be legal. You should be glad you haven’t had the misfortune to meet them.
Well for one it’s a bit of hyperbole, to a degree.
I’m legally blind and back I became legally blind the state pulled my drivers license. This is something that can happen in 13 states
However, I can still purchase a gun. Granted, legally blind doesn’t mean “without vision”. I can actually still see quite a bit. I still play videogames, read books, work, etc. However, I could be completely darkness blind, like no vision whatsoever, and I am still legally allowed to buy a gun.
Back when I had a reddit account I posted this anecdote as a joke and got dozens of replies about how “of course I should be able to buy a gun” despite not having the fucking prerequisite of fucking VISION. Several of them pointed me to some blind YouTuber who had a channel about being blind and shooting guns and owning guns
Like I am technically disabled. I work with the disabled, I work for the disabled. But the huge number of people who immediately jump on me to immediately reject the idea of any kind of regulation that would suggest someone who literally cannot see the world they are aiming a lethal weapon at shouldn’t have access to it make me think that the hyperbole isn’t that far off
And for the record I actually do own a gun. Well my household does, technically. I don’t use it, obviously, but my partner is trained to do so. We both abhor guns but are of the opinion that “pandoras box has been opened” so to speak. If shit hits the fan we need to be able to defend ourselves and guns beat pretty much everything else we could possibly do. If real legislation, reform,and regulation came through I would be extremely happy to be rid of it. It is a cancer on our home.
I’d like to note that there’s nothing stopping you from buying, owning, or operating a car anywhere but public roads. Operating either one in a negligent manner is a crime.
So I can still hit up track day and ruin it for everyone? Nice
I actually still own my car. I’ll soapbox for a minute here. I live in a less urban area. The closest grocery store isn’t far, about a mile, but the path to get there is completely unnavigable. It’s eastern PA and the roads are antiquated, old carriage roads that have a shoulder of about 6” on either side and no sidewalks whatsoever. The closest bus stop is, you guessed it, at the small town center with the grocery store, gas station, and a few other shops. It’s not exactly rural but it’s not that far from it
Anyway! They take your license and thankfully there are some supports and they are pretty great. The division of the blind will hook you up with all kinds of shit to help you and train you to use it. I’m fairly tech oriented so I can set up screen readers and such but they have all these neat things like bumps on my stove knobs and all sorts of tactile things.
But the nightmare situation is transportation. Thankfully I’m in a privileged position where I work from home in a position that pays me a solid wage. But if I didn’t or if I ever changed jobs I would be fucked. As mentioned I have no bus stop I can safely get to and there’s no rail service for miles here. So the solution is that I schedule rides.
This is a terrrrible solution. It means that I have to contact the dot in advance, schedule a ride, hope they show up (they have flaked before) and then they come all the way out here to pick me up for a doctors appointment or whatever. It’s super wasteful and it’s basically making the state my uber (with none of the benefits, I still end up waiting around for ages often). It also means if there is a last minute need for transportation I am fucked. In an emergency I am reliant on services like ambulances, which is obscenely expensive. (Pro tip: your local ambulance company will often have a subscription fee, if you pay it they will waive a lot of billing fees. This is a bullshit system that should be illegal. I am a medical provider. If I bill your insurance $500 and they pay me $100 I write off the $400 because that’s the contracted rate. But ambulance companies will often charge thousands over what your insurance pays intentionally and will bill you this amount if you don’t pay their subscription bullshit. It’s literally extortion of people experiencing the worst moment of their lives)
wonderful infrastructure, america #1
your local ambulance company will often have a subscription fee.
I am currently having trouble wrapping my mind around this. That’s so completely fucked up.
To be fair it’s not actually a subscription but a “strongly suggested donation”. Just one with financial penalties if you don’t pay it and ever get an ambulance ride.
What makes it extra fucked up is the housing system in the USA (and many places) means that most people don’t own their homes and a large amount of people move frequently.
As a result they are completely unaware of this because often the notice that it even exists is mailed out either to property owners based on tax records (meaning renters don’t get notified), at least where I live now. People I know here who live in apartment buildings or even my next door neighbor who rents his house had no idea because they don’t get the begging letter every year
Depends on locale though, where I used to live (which was far more urban and densely populated) they just mailed it to everyone but then it just came randomly addressed to “resident” and looked like junk mail. But then they got apartment complexes and stuff. That’s how I first found out, I got it at my old apartment (funny enough a few weeks after I used an ambulance for the first time in my life and had gotten a bill for like $1700 for a 7 minute ride with some medical care but that was over a decade ago. I did have decent insurance at the time too)
People really fucking blame Democrats for not being in charge after those same people don’t vote for them, goddamn clown country.
Remember that Democrat super majority? Fucking nothing.
I remember over a decade ago when 58 Dems voted for single payer, every Republican and a couple of Independents fucked it up for us, but at least we still got the medicaid expansion that gave coverage to millions of American citizens.
Before that, the 111th congress had a dem supermajority for only 72 days and it is the most productive congress on record since the 89th congress as far as bills passed.
Most the people I know that did vote for them blame them for not being in charge. Yes, it is a clown country.
They’re not exactly helping elect their chosen candidates by flaming them online.
Dems gross incompetence is the exact reason they can’t get enough votes to win what should have been the easiest election of all of our lifetimes
What policy issue do you disagree with them on?
Sustaining genocide in Gaza is a big one. Kamala’s campaign was literally told by a sizeable number of voters that they wont vote for her unless she opposes it. It’s the primary reason Kamala lost the election. And that’s before mentioning that the Democratic convention didn’t even give the greater party the ability to choose a candidate. The only choices were Biden and Kamala, and neither offered any worthwhile promise to their voter base. They just hit the “were not Trump” angle expecting to automatically win because of it.
On top of that- Failing to enshrined any trans-rights or abortion protections into law is a big one. They’re also just as anti-worker as Republicans. Biden is the one who shutdown the rail strike, claiming the workers were “too necessary” to allow them to strike.
Democrats don’t actually care about the causes they supposedly champion. So why should voters pretend like they do?
And as a preemptive comment: obviously Trump and Republicans are fascists. But the majority of Dems in power have more in common with their coworkers than they do with their average voter.
Not sure anyone has ever presented solid evidence that Kamala would have won if not for the Gaza issue. Most agree it was a contributing factor, but not a determening one. Which is scary when you think about it - the real reasons she lost appear to be more nuanced and more deeply related to general cynicism, ignorance and apathy.
Congratulations, Trump is in office and Israel is gunning down Lebanon citizens and buying 1000 lbs bombs again for the first time in years, news outlets saying Israel is prepping to annex and settle even more lands in the Gaza strip.
You failed to back the peacekeepers and now so much more blood will be on your hands as a result.
The only option is all hands on deck, push the envelope even if we don’t agree with whats in it. We can have campaign finance reform and tax the rich if you would only do that one thing.
What peacekeeper? Biden was supplying the genocide too. It’s a principled stance. We won’t vote for genocide whether it’s red or blue running the show. And no, the blood isn’t on my hands since I didn’t approve, or purposely give my tax money to Israel. Biden, and no Trump are doing that.
On top of that the Biden administration had 4 years and confirmation by the Supreme Court he could essentially do whatever he wanted as president. And he still did nothing but had over the case to a DoJ that did fuck all about it.
Also you glossed over my other points of Biden’s failures.
Edit: You also realize Israel was literally bombing civilians in Lebanon when Biden was president right? Or did you alreadh forget ablut the pager bombs Israel planeted in Lebanon? And Biden still gave them a shit ton of weapons, and only effectively blocked one weapons shipment as a political maneuver.
I literally just told you: Israel is buying more and bigger weapons than ever. Your ignorance of that simple fact, that the genocidal Israeli government backed Trump for presidency specifically so they could be even more violent, just shows you don’t care about all of the women and children who die as a result.
And I’m telling you the genocide is largely unchanged. The only difference is the names on the weapons heading into Israel and the rhetoric. But anyone paying attention knows that the rhetoric changes nothing. The only difference is that the US is mask off about supporting genocide now.
What do you expect from a party that has no power? Honestly Republicans should be more pissed off, they have all 3 branches of government and they’re doing symbolic bullshit with 0 chance of success to appeal to Trump specifically, and it’ll work because he never watched School House Rock. Not that I’m complaining.
Remember when the Democrats had a super majority and did literally fuck all with it? No abortion law, no privacy laws, literally fucking nothing? I do. Cause I remember being real excited they might actually do something and now I’m jaded because they fucking didn’t.
Keep watching and you’ll be just as pissed at how much the Democrats insist on fucking kneecapping themselves at every available opportunity. I mean, Jesus. Christ. Kamala ran on building the fucking wall.
the constitution only matters if the people who enforce it actually decide to.
their ‘secret’, and it’s not really a secret…
they’re loud. they scream lies all day, every day, without end.
the counter would be to do the same, but telling the truth instead; calling out the bullshit the republicants shovel. all day, every day, without end.
No, you don’t call out their bullshit. That’s the trap. That let’s them frame the entire conversation. You build a vision for the country that people can get behind. That’s the same thing the Republicans do, but with fear of the other.
If only they had 4 years to actually do that before the election
What a shame, guess we will never know
The right found themselves someone who champions their values in as much the same way as the left finds a champion in the Roosevelts.
I think it’s pendulum swinging to the right in general as is nature of politics. Hopefully it won’t last long and someone doesn’t stick a knife to stop the pendulum swinging back. There is still plenty of hope considering that many Americans are still resisting. I don’t know who is who in both the Senate and the House, but I’m sure the Democrats will vote down the proposal to allow a third term to a president, and a Republican one at that.
Alternative title: “What CNBC is reporting on vs What FOX News is reporting on”
Correction: “vs What FOX News is tweeting about”
Dear dems worry less about your influencer status more about doing your job
Isn’t that pretty much the context for the movie Civil War?
You Americans get what you asked for
And what political paradise do you belong to?
Why so you can run it down to make yourself feel better about living in a shit hole?
