This car has been heading towards that cliff for 8+ years now. Meanwhile I, and every other voter and non-voter are in the trunk. Unable to do anything outside of shout from the trunk what we want. Short of breaking free there’s nothing that can be done. Those that can actually stop the car won’t bother.

Biden was still sending those bombs during their administration. So no, the genocide is pretty much as supplied as it ever was.

You’re turning this whole conversation into this weird fucking purity test. Meanwhile you’re either too blind or stupid to see that fascism has been here in the US. I’ve done protests, I’ve done voting, I’ve donated to causes that are anti-thetical to Trump and his laws. And guess what? Fascism is still here. Want to know why? Because none of that fucking does anything under a fascist government.

Because guess what? Fascism isn’t something you can vote out. Anyone that knows about the history of fascism knows that.

It was objectively noble, it didn’t support genocide. Meanwhile democrats did nothing to stop fascism or genocide and I’m supposed to blame non-voters for this? You all think voting would magically save us. As if it wouldn’t just be another 4 years before the next “biggest election of our lifetimes.”

Also, just like where you’re placing your blame, your assumption is wrong.

Conservatives wouldn’t let Trump be put rightfully in prison according to you. And I’m supposed to believe voting actually does anything?

You’re incredibly naive and ignorant

And I’m telling you, yet again, non-voters are in no way culpable. It was Biden’s job, and then Kamala’s job to gain voters. And they both did so terrible we ended up with Trump again. And again, if you think voting will save the US from fascism you’re incredibly naive.

Also, it was never irrelevant. Again, the Supreme Court gave Biden immense power through their official acts ruling. He did absolutely nothing with it. He could have thrown Trump in prison and said tough shit. But he didn’t, and now we have Trump again.

Erroneously passing the buck onto principled non-voters doesn’t address Biden or Democrats inability to do anything during their tenure about Trump. And as of right now the Israeli genocide is as armed now as before Biden was in office. You can look at my other comments for sources.

You can feel however you want. But ultimately those with power failed you. And if you thought voting was going to save the US you’re incredibly naive. The fascist streak in the US was never going to end with Trump. What we’re seeing now is horrifically inevitable. Simply because those in power did nothing to stop it.

In regards to the Israeli genocide. Reading comprehension helps, so I’d use that if I were you. And what exactly did Biden do to stop Trump from doing literally any of this? He could have had Trump arrested and that would have been that since he’s a president and it’s an official act.

Then, when he was polling terribly after his first debate, he forced Kamala to be the only option for the Dems. The Democratic party didn’t even have a democratic primary. And somehow this is voters fault?

And what safeguards did Biden/Dems put into place to protect immigrants or trans people huh? Oh that’s right, absolutely fucking nothing. Because they don’t care about trans people or immigrants, they’re just talking points for Dems.

You can blame people with principles all you want. But Biden did nothing about Trump for 4 years. Everything that’s about to happen is on him. And in the future his name will be spoken in the same way that James Buchanan is.

Did they make it worse? Legitimately, what did Biden do to stop the genocide outside of claiming to stop sending bombs that his administration still sent anyways? Seems like it’s the same as it ever was in terms of the genocide.

I have no idea how you can blame non-voters when Biden held all power and still did absolutely nothing for his or Kamala’s campaign.

They are not. And this is an excuse to take responsibility from Biden and his administration. Trump should be in prison But Biden’s administration was the one tasked with doing that and did fuck all. Even when the Supreme Court gave him absolute power to do anything as president, he still didn’t bother to arrest Trump.

Democrats in power don’t actually give a shit about the issues they pretend. And those that would vote for them are tired of excuses.

I like how it’s somehow non-voters fault even though they made their position abundantly clear. They’re literally one of the only groups I don’t blame. They told everyone repeatedly that they wanted an end to US support for Israel’s genocide. Biden didn’t do anything, and Kamala made no significant promises to end it.

Obviously Trump wasn’t going to end the genocide, but continue it. But the point was taking a principled stance against an administration that could do something and did virtually nothing. When your options are genocide or genocide, and that’s your main issue at the polls, of course you won’t vote.

Also you’re the person yesterday who was lying saying there’s no genocide in Israel. You never did reply to my comment after yours was removed.

Edit: If you blame non-voters as much as Trump voters then you’re the problem in leftist politics. You’re the reason why their is so little unity in leftist spaces. Rather than find your communities or protect your people, you lambaste non-voters and cause greater division. People that had very legitimate concerns about a very legitimate genocide. Maybe you should try and look at the bigger picture of how this happened. Instead of blaming people that were very clear from the very beginning about where they stand.

There is objectively a genocide occuring in Palestine, caused by Israel, against the Palestinian people. Even the UN says that it’s a genocide.

Israel also funded Hamas for years prior to the kidnappings. They used Hamas as an excuse, after years of funding them, to manufacture consent for their genocide against every Palestinian. Israel has even started operations in the West Bank following their “ceasefire” in Gaza. Proving that this is about the ethnic cleansing of every Palestinian within Palestine.

Had to come back to tell you that you’re completely wrong. The US sent a fuckton of 2000 lbs bombs to Israel during the Biden administration. At least 10,000 of said bombs. Shipments only paused in May of 2024, again as a political maneuver. Even the article points out how the supposed “pauses” did nothing to halt weapons going to Israel from the US during the Biden administration. This is why I’m not bothering with you. Because you don’t know what you’re talking about.

An amount that is largely the same, and the bombs that were already sent from Biden leveled the vast majority of Gaza along with its population. You’ve also failed to address any of the other points I’ve made, so this is where I stop wasting my time.

And I’m telling you the genocide is largely unchanged. The only difference is the names on the weapons heading into Israel and the rhetoric. But anyone paying attention knows that the rhetoric changes nothing. The only difference is that the US is mask off about supporting genocide now.

What peacekeeper? Biden was supplying the genocide too. It’s a principled stance. We won’t vote for genocide whether it’s red or blue running the show. And no, the blood isn’t on my hands since I didn’t approve, or purposely give my tax money to Israel. Biden, and no Trump are doing that.

On top of that the Biden administration had 4 years and confirmation by the Supreme Court he could essentially do whatever he wanted as president. And he still did nothing but had over the case to a DoJ that did fuck all about it.

Also you glossed over my other points of Biden’s failures.

Edit: You also realize Israel was literally bombing civilians in Lebanon when Biden was president right? Or did you alreadh forget ablut the pager bombs Israel planeted in Lebanon? And Biden still gave them a shit ton of weapons, and only effectively blocked one weapons shipment as a political maneuver.

Sustaining genocide in Gaza is a big one. Kamala’s campaign was literally told by a sizeable number of voters that they wont vote for her unless she opposes it. It’s the primary reason Kamala lost the election. And that’s before mentioning that the Democratic convention didn’t even give the greater party the ability to choose a candidate. The only choices were Biden and Kamala, and neither offered any worthwhile promise to their voter base. They just hit the “were not Trump” angle expecting to automatically win because of it.

On top of that- Failing to enshrined any trans-rights or abortion protections into law is a big one. They’re also just as anti-worker as Republicans. Biden is the one who shutdown the rail strike, claiming the workers were “too necessary” to allow them to strike.

Democrats don’t actually care about the causes they supposedly champion. So why should voters pretend like they do?

And as a preemptive comment: obviously Trump and Republicans are fascists. But the majority of Dems in power have more in common with their coworkers than they do with their average voter.

My life choices have been good. After all: I’m not a callous cunt like you.