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  • The State guaranteeing employment is still not enough, because the Keynesian systems post ww2 tried just that and began to creak and break in the 1970s leading to the neoliberal counter-reform faction winning power.

    Oh totally, a welfare state cannot function within capitalism long term regardless. I kind of clumsily tried to make the point that it is at least manageable during periods of industrialization and growth, because there are jobs. Obviously under capitalism this will never happen long term.

    It /should/ be easy to refute but whether or not we have the right conditions to have our ideas take hold is another thing entirely.

    Most people think only of the spectrum represented in the parliament. So when they think “communists” or “leftists” they think of whatever succdem party the media is currently calling “far-left”, and then nothing else. So we are already set back enormously because they keep making things worse (and moving to the right). In the minds of most people, they have to choose between eroding welfare services + higher taxes vs eroding welfare services + lower taxes, and obviously most are gonna choose the latter.


  • Why would workers trust you if you are actively trying to make their lives worse and take away their hard won rights and social safety nets?

    I don’t know, seems to work just fine for the bourgeois in the Nordics. Write a book about how you think “the welfare state = apartheid” and say that it is your life’s mission to dismantle it, and you’ll become prime minister with a majority government (Sweden).

    To me it seems the issues of the welfare state stem from de-industrialisation and the ever so common economic crises arising from capitalism. A welfare state cannot function in capitalism unless there is also continuous job creation. It makes no sense that an ever decreasing portion of the working population needs to fund the income of others who want to work but cannot, because the jobs don’t exist. The state should handout “welfare” insofar that it guarantees you a right to work. Otherwise it will just spiral as it does now in the Nordics: no jobs --> more people utilizing the social safety net --> more strain on the welfare state --> higher taxes for the workers --> etc.