• muzzle@lemm.ee
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    2 years ago

    Yes it would be funny, it would also probably cause a civil uprising.

  • abracaDavid@lemmy.today
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    2 years ago

    This country will never, ever prosecute a president because it would set a precedent of holding our politicians accountable. Ain’t happening. We’ve all been watching Pelosi do insider trading for decades.

    • AA5B@lemmy.world
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      Politicians doing insider trading is not limited to Pelosi, and somehow not illegal. At least Congress has more ethics standards than courts, but it’s an extremely low bar and unreasonable to be held to such lower standard than the rest of us

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        The “somehow” isn’t a big leap… The people who would have to outlaw it are the exact ones benefitting from the broken status quo, same as it ever was.

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      2 years ago

      Yes, the second most pressing concern in everyone’s lives after a second Trump term—Nancy Pelosi’s husband

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        2 years ago

        I’m concerned about Pelosi’s husband! Didn’t he get attacked by a dude with a hammer? I wouldn’t wish that on anyone

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        No one is saying that. It’s just blatant corruption in front of the entire country for everyone to see.

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          Hey, you drew the comparison. The whole world of corrupt US politicians to choose from. Don’t like the conclusion people draw when they read exactly what you’ve written? Just write something else lol

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      As reprehensible as it is morally, Congresscritters can STILL legally trade based on their insider info they get from their Congresscritter jobs. So there’s really no crime to prosecute. There SHIOULD be, but there isn’t.

    • Nick@lemmy.worlddeleted by creator
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      Except he’s already been prosecuted and found guilty. This is the sentencing. Now the question is will New York state sentence and imprison him before he takes office.

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        It’s gonna be interesting because we are clearly at a level of manipulation where the sheer act of being held accountable will 100% be called persecution. From here on out any attempt to hold a politician accountable will be met with resistance and end up being theatre.

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        He’s just not going to show up and will stay in FL till after inauguration. If you think they’re going to hold politicians to the same standard as you and me you’re incredibly naïve.

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      Insider trading is actually legal for congress though. You’re point is valid for systemic issues but this specific one boils down to the individuals involved. There is no precedent for this, no one can really say the judge did anything improper. It would likely be a boon for the governor in a blue state and who knows the DA ambitions.

      I’m mostly making counterpoints than a prediction though. I still don’t think anything major will happen.

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    To do so would subvert the will of democracy. I thought liberals were the defenders of democracy? You lost the election. You fucking lost, move forward and try again in 4 years. Stop acting like spoiled entitled children.

  • JasonDJ@lemmy.zip
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    2 years ago

    Your cartoon kid doesn’t need to pray, he has magic little fish who grant his every wish.

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      This is something i never understood about this meme. like most ppl know who Timmy is, so why use him in this meme. Also, doesnt god exist in fairly odd parents, like didnt timmy met him or am i thinking of some other show

  • Røøk@lemmy.world
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    “We put all our politicians in prison as soon as they’re elected. Don’t you?” “Why?” “It saves time.” -Terry Pratchett, The Last Continent

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    Yeah, won’t happen

    Also, if it did, then what? You’ll have a Jesus death cult in charge of nukes. At least you can control trump by brown nosing him, the cult just will destroy the world to bring back jesus

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    It is not actually legal to do this. A state can’t interfere with the functioning of the federal executive branch. Most constitutional scholars would say the sentence just gets suspended until the end of his term.

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      It wouldn’t effect the functioning of the federal system. You seem to forget he spent the majority of his time in his idiotic faux gold penthouse or at Mar a lago.

      Dumping him into white collar prison wouldn’t change any of that and fed prisoners can still get temporary hardship/work release anyway.

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    Yeah fucking right. Jesus Christ. We need to just accept that it’s over. He’s never going to face any consequences and NY is not sending anyone to the White House to drag him out…

  • Furbag@lemmy.world
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    You know how I know this is bullshit? Because even if Trump got the maximum sentence for each of his felony counts, which is three years of prison, they can all be served concurrently, so he would be out by November 2027 with more than a year left of his term.

    If Judge Merchan proceeds with sentencing, Trump’s legal team will just appeal and push it back until after Jan 20th.

    Nice wishful thinking, but Trump winning erased the chances of him ever being held accountable for his crimes against the American people. A majority of Americans felt like he should get away with all of it. On day one he will appoint a sycophant to the DOJ who will drop all of his federal cases, and the state cases will get paused because the President is immune from state prosecution while on office.

    If anybody here wanted to see justice done, you should have shown up on the 5th.

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      If he’s not convicted of anything he can’t pardon himself. Is there a statute of limitations on inciting an insurrection, or whatever ge was going to be charged with? Just pick up the case again in Jan 2025.

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        He won’t have to. He’ll just have his own DOJ appointee dismiss the federal cases against him. This will 100% happen on day one of his presidency. I have no doubt in my mind that he already has a person in mind for it and they will be his first appointment after his swearing in.

        For the state cases, he doesn’t need to do anything, they won’t result in a sentencing verdict that can’t be appealed before he takes office, and the state courts cannot prosecute a sitting president.

        The best case scenario is that the state cases that he can neither dismiss nor pardon himself for will resumed at the end of his term in January 2029. That’s a long fucking time to wait for justice, and even then, we won’t know if he will even serve time for it. The presiding judges could die or retire and sympathetic judges could be appointed in the meantime. The states could flip to be controlled by MAGA AGs and decide to drop the cases even while they are paused.

        The likelihood of this guy seeing the inside of a jail cell before he dies is almost 0%.

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          Oh yeah, I meant 2029 instead of 2025. I know it’s a long time but I was hoping that without an actual verdict the case could be brought up again when (if) the criminals no longer run the justice system. I know some cases are dismissed with and without prejudice, so if there’s any way they can officially be legally/permanently dispensed with I know he’ll do it.

          I guess the best we can hope for is for him to just die soon. Just keep on eating those hamberders

    • Awesomo85@sh.itjust.works
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      crimes against the American people people of New York.

      FTFY

      Don’t know if you’ve ever been to NY, but they literally hate anyone that isn’t from NY. They used to LOVE Trump and his business practices. Call them shady if you want, but that used to bring in money for NY. Then he started making money in Florida and ran as a Republican. That pissed them off but good!

      They aren’t doing this for the American people. They are doing this for themselves.

      • Furbag@lemmy.world
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        The hush money payments are not the only things he was being prosecuted for. Jan 6th, the Georgia RICO case, the classified documents case, etc. New York is not the only state that deserves justice.

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        Trump is and has always been a criminal. New York (my home state) just has the balls to actually bring him to court even if he slimes his way out of any real consequence. And believe it or not we dont hate outsiders. Just shady businessmen and people who dont pay their bills.

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      so he would be out by November 2027 with more than a year left of his term

      In the extremely unlikely event he was sent to prison for 3 years then Vance would immediately use it as an excuse to invoke the section 4 of the 25th and make himself president.

      Then we’d have a reasonably competent person in the white house delivering Project 2025 instead of the incompetent asshole

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    After the election results and looking at Elon for past few months, I’m starting to think Trump isn’t the problem. It won’t matter if he stays or not. USA has got bigger knives in it’s chest.

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        Fix the 99% working lives. If Dems can’t get us a living wage back, what the hell are they good for?

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        Yeah you can absolutely forget about any meaningful climate change action now, education, health care, things like that.

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      STARTING to think? Honestly I don’t even hate Trump anymore. It’s like hating a shark or a snake or something. He’s just doing what he does. It’s the ~75 million people who enable him by voting for him that are disgusting and terrifying right now. Half of America is the problem, and he is just a symptom, and it is a BIG BIG BIG problem for the whole world.

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        I’ve been trying to fathom the amount of misinformation out of here that has accumulated in people’s minds. There are people that I know and love, otherwise intelligent good people, that are thankful that Trump got elected. They believe that everything wrong with America and the world is due to “the Democrats”. And they’ve been that way since before 04.

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          There are also people I know (many of whom are relatives) who seem like normal people but then support Trump and all of his policies. I want to think they’re not horrible people and that they’re just brainwashed, but recently I’ve been seeing some of my friends jump on the alt-right bandwagon and posting extremely racist stuff to be “edgy”, even after leaving the far-right culture bubble they lived in. This is the sort of stuff that even when I was still a conservative I would never have thought it would be okay to promote, and I grew up in the same environment they did so it seems like they know perfectly well what they’re doing. After all of this I’m starting to think that maybe many of them are genuinely terrible people.

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        I’ve been thinking about this a lot lately. Recently I looked up what has been going on in various European countries, and it seems like with a lot of them there’s an extreme populist party with about 20% control, there’s a less extreme party that’s still queerphobic and anti-abortion but more willing to compromise with maybe about 15% control, and then there’s more liberal but economically conservative parties parties making it so the total of economically conservative parties including the above two is above 50%. These countries also have actual progressive and even some left-wing representation in government.

        Contrast this with the US, which only has a populist party and a socially liberal but economically conservative party that a bunch of people are brainwashed to think is literally communism. There is very little progressive representation even though the country has a significant number of progressives, and people who want less government regulations are voting Republican regardless of their stances on social issues. Meanwhile polls say that opposition to LGBTQ rights and abortion is probably around 30% which is not much different than the European countries I looked at. So I think half the problem is that democracy in the US is basically dysfunctional.

        However, 30% opposition to LGBTQ and abortion rights is still fucking bad, and I’m still trying to figure out whether it is the propaganda to blame or the people themselves. Additionally racism and xenophobia had been on the rise everywhere and has basically gained popular support at this point so democracy clearly isn’t going to solve this.

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    I’d assume any sentence for time to serve would be suspended until after his term.

    That said, it would be very funny to be in a time where the US President could not visit certain states because he would be arrested.