Won’t happen but even if it did, JD will be just as bad.
Probably worse because he’s who nazis have to fall in line behind now, and he’s a perfectly soulless puppet who will do whatever he’s told. He’ll make the nazis more efficient.
Trump’s inherent incompetence works in favor of Americans here. Not by enough, but it’s something.
Yes it would be funny, it would also probably cause a civil uprising.
Bring it on
You have my axe
“We put all our politicians in prison as soon as they’re elected. Don’t you?” “Why?” “It saves time.” -Terry Pratchett, The Last Continent
JD Vance as president is an even more terrifying thought.
Beware the Monkey Paw
Theoretically there’s nothing stopping Trump from being president from prison.
There’s no rule that says a dog can’t play basketball.
I don’t know, is there a lot of couch in the white house, must take some time for him to introduce himself to all of them?
I see Vance as a half smart opportunist, not a full on Fascist.
I could be wrong.
icymi, JD Vance is a vassal of Peter Thiel.
Could be. otoh, the big chair changes people. Some grow into the job.
Trump isn’t smart either. He’s just a figure head.
At the time Trump built his Tower, Jackie Kennedy was working to preserve Grand Central station in Manhattan. Trump had a golden opportunity to get in good with the most influential taste maker in the country, and blew it because he’s a greedy idiot and a vulgarian.
I’m from Germany, so my exposure to US politics is limited (yet still way too much). So, I happened to watch/listen to the new york times podcast interview with vance about 1-2 weeks before the election. Mind you, before that I assumed he was an awkward idiot because all I knew about him was the doughnut thing, laughing at his own joke, and the couch thing. So I basically only tuned in to hear that weird ass man speak for once.
Apart from the shitty interviewer, I was shocked to find that he would charm me every couple of minutes. Saying people change their minds, people make mistakes, explaining where he is coming from, talking about his wife. This was not who I expected. And I had to remind myself a couple of times: this dude is up to no good. Listen to what he is not saying. Don’t get sucked into this madness.
But damn he sounded so normal. So human. (Especially in contrast to the stuff I heard about him before.) And since then, I am honestly worried about this guy. I am definitely on the left spectrum politically speaking, and I still found some stuff relatable just by the way he talked. This scared me so much.
So I agree with you, I think he is an opportunist. And he actually knows what he is doing. I think he knows how to act and speak much better than the left US media tried to portray. They try to ridicule someone who is a very elaborate politician, and this can backfire so much, it’s dangerous. Don’t ridicule the devil in power. I believe if he wanted to, he could wrap a lot of people around his finger.
I agree. He has done a great job managing his career. We’ll see what happens
Peter Thiel has done a great job managing his career.
If you look at the election prediction history graph on Nate Silver’s substack, you see an upwards trajectory for Trump/Vance ever since the vice-presidential debate. That was also when the “Republicans are weird” narrative that was working so well for Harris/Walz abruptly left the discourse. And I believe that what happened was that Republicans who were embarrassed by Vance as well as Trump had a moment like you describe where he suddenly didn’t seem so unrelatable and that right there sunk the Dems… as much as it pains me to admit it, because I’d much rather have a party that wins on the issues and communicates clearly how insane and risky it was to vote for literal autocracy, the Harris campaign probably made the wrong choice with Walz and never should have stopped mocking Republicans for being “weird.”
Vance is a fucking monarchist.
Nah he’s a slightly more knowledgeable clown who is even more eager to do what the money backers want
Younger generally means more hopeful and ambitious, so it really depends how much Peter Thiel has his hooks in him.
Vance at least has a non-white wife and is still on his first marriage so probably less bitter.
As an aside I was looking up everyone involved with founding PayPal. What a collective bunch of shit stains they are.
Seriously if folks knew what would happen with most of em back in the 90s im pretty some of the real old Rednecks wouldve killed em. Im talking the remains of those who fought in the county and union wars BTW.
Fun to think about, but I can promise that Trump will never see consequences for his actions. Everything just miraculously slides right off of him.
First presidential act from prison: kill the judge. Second: de himself regardless of law.
He’ll just stay out of New York until his coronation
Cheat codes
Like a convcted felon president elect is going to give 2 shits about new york, or laws in general.
He’ll get a judge to pause all this shit until later. A good lawyer knows the law, a great lawyer knows the judge.
A great Russian Mafia knows the judge’s and prosecutors kids 🔪
And where the nearest window is when they refuse the tea
Every time there’s talks about it I think about The fall of the house of Usher
Yeah, he’ll just get his 6/3 Supreme Court majority to rule that the president is also immune to state crimes like they already ruled for federal crime.
LegalEagle on YouTube says it’s basically done. He will never see jail.
Why would you need a loophole to put a criminal in jail?
Interesting.
When a rich man is sentenced to prison, and then actually has to go to prison, it’s called a “legal loophole”.
My first thought was “So we call ‘following the law’ a loophole now?”
If the law meant a fucking thing, he would have been in prison decades ago.
WHY did it take this long to get around to it? So bizarre.
'The voters are going to reject him and then we don’t have to go through all this messy business if prosecution."
It’s the moral elevation of inaction for its own sake above action for any reason.
In a word: Garland.
In two words: Merrick Garland
In three words: fucking Merrick Garland
In four words: fucking Merrick “Slowclown” Garland
In five words: establishment hack as attorney general.
Nobody is going to put an elected present in jail. It’s game over.
To do so would subvert the will of democracy. I thought liberals were the defenders of democracy? You lost the election. You fucking lost, move forward and try again in 4 years. Stop acting like spoiled entitled children.
The law is the law.
enjoy the tariffs snowflake
I am convinced that if Kamala won Trump would have started an armed insurgency. Well, this would definitely about do it.
If Kamala won, he’d at most get a nice private prison that’d basically a rich people’s fancy retirement home, with access to amenities like tweeting from his “truth” social so its basically not different than being not having a prison sentence at all. But most likely he’d not even get prison, but a house-arrest with very relaxed restriction, because the judicial system will make up some excuse saying its impractical to keep a former president in prison citing “safety concerns”.
I remember having dreams. You guys remember those? Fun times.
They would just exercise the 25th amendment and put Vance in the seat. I’m not sure who’s ass is in the chair is the worst-case scenario
Vance is worse.
I actually think Trump is better than Vance. Somehow.
I think it’s that he’s really bad at the job. He can’t keep people who disagree - or don’t agree forcefully enough. He can’t take advice, he’s not that good at coming up with plans.
Known evil?
I disagree though.
Incompetent evil is always preferable, and Vance seems to have entire sections of working grey matter
oui. he can’t help but get in his own way. he’s also endlessly distractable.
It’s not actually Trump that’s the biggest threat, it’s his supporters. And the Republican party that lets him do whatever he wants. That cult-like behavior dies with him (please, tonight on a hamberder). Vance sucks shit, but he in the past has said things against Trump, suggesting he’s just in his camp for the power, money and fame. And sadly, that’s the best case scenario in this failed democracy…
Good news is the Republicans are varying levels of unhinged, so since Trump doesn’t actually care about policy they could become deadlocked again as they infight over how badly to screw up the country, probably with trying to muck up Medicare or the ACA again
You’re assuming they’re still going to be allowed to make decisions.
Everyone is expecting his government to still follow the established rules, but there’s very good reason to think those rules will be thrown out.
The USA is dead.
I’ve always seen their endgame as Vance taking over sometime during Trumps term. What I never considered until this moment is that with control of both sides of the Legislature, the GOP would also be able to pick whomever they wanted as a replacement for Vance in the VP spot. Zero primary election vote. Zero general election by the people, just the GOP leadership with a blank check to put whatever monster in the Executive branch without anything stopping them beyond the Constitutional limits that they be American born, be at least 35 years old, and having living in the USA for 14 years or more.
What monster would the GOP pick to be Vance’s VP?
Liz Cheney, as a show of good fa
I’m sorry I couldn’t finish typing that.
Tbh I’m kind of expecting Trump to accidentally fall out of a window sometime around February. Maybe Easter. It’s a very special day for him.
that’s not the point, the point is it would be hilarious
Nothing in the Constitution prevents the President from holding the office from a jail cell.
I’m telling you, the premise of this should be a Michael Schur production.
Nothing in the Constitution prevents the President from holding the office from a jail cell.
This would be most hilarious trip of bureaurocracy the world has ever seen.
Yeah a president in prison can just go “As an official act, get me the fuck out of here”.
Haha, hahahahaha, he could be in jail already for years and there’s people thinking he’ll go now? Hope is nice, but that’s just a dream
Not going to happen
I so badly want this to happen, but it’s not going to happen
