• T156@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    I don’t think that outing people is a good idea though. It’s fine to point out that they’re being hypocritical, or refuse them for their views, but outing them seems a step too far, especially if it’s retaliatory.

    Their being in the closet oughtn’t be conditional.

    The inverse wouldn’t be acceptable, why would this?

    • OneOrTheOtherDontAskMe@lemmy.world
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      3 months ago

      The reverse in this situation would be a closeted queer person outing someone for being…NOT shitty and detrimental to other people?

      Nah, don’t out people who aren’t shitty. But if you’re an active republican, ESPECIALLY if you’re a political configure, and you trash the gay community you belong to? Fuck em. They aren’t under the umbrella of protection the moment they try to push people out from under it.

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    3 months ago

    People are turning on each other. Like those saying Latinos should out each other to be deported. Nothing but more examples of how divisive the Trump regime is. I suppose I don’t have to look up how this kind of thing has happened before in times of fascism. I’ll bet it’s gotta be true.

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    3 months ago

    Just do what I do.

    Step one be bicurious

    Step two enable “everyone” as love interests on your dating apps

    Step 3 match with cops, servicemen and tons of Latin men ( Latin men like me idk why)

    Step 4 get my hole wrecked by said matches due to bi curious

    Step 5… profit??? Idk i can’t really move cuz wrecked hole

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    3 months ago

    If outing conservatives for their projection materially changes anything, it will be a first. That said, I fully support this endeavor.

  • Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    I hate trumpers and all, but this is gonna lead to suicides and is essentially just outing gay people to cause them harm, even bodily harm. I was raised to think that was wrong, but I guess if it’s done by you it’s ok?

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      3 months ago

      Ah yes, but republican gay people. So only gay people who support things like Project 2025, which basically wants to eradicate the entire concept of homosexuality.

      As far as I understood it at least

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        3 months ago

        The Post said “conservative” which is a bit broad. There are lots of conservative straight men and women who aren’t homophobic or against LGBTQ people. Republican is less broad. Far right now specific and so on.

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          Well, I agree it is broad, yeah.

          But, like… we’ll see if there’s gonna be any republicans trying to distance themselves from Trump. There were lots who endorsed Harris and who refused to endorse Trump, but not endorsing Trump just isn’t enough with this level of threat to democracy, imo.

          “If you are neutral in situations of injustice, you have chosen the side of the oppressor. If an elephant has its foot on the tail of a mouse, and you say that you are neutral, the mouse will not appreciate your neutrality.” ― Desmond Tutu

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            3 months ago

            I’m personally a fan of the MLK Jr quote, along the same lines:

            In the end, we will remember not the words of our enemies but the silence of our friends.

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      3 months ago

      Sucks that being anything other than straight is a health risk for large segments of the population.

      That being said, enabling or fostering that same risk isn’t in their best interest. If they’re unable to be the change they want to see in the world, then who do they expect to stand up for them?

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    3 months ago

    The scariest part of this movement for me is being targeted because somebody thought I was conservative. *shudder*

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      I’ve been getting this for the last few years because I look conservative. Sigh. Seems like it will soon get worse.

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        I’m 6’3, 300 pounds, built like a linebacker. Shaved head. There aren’t a lot of clothes that look good on me and actually fit (finding a shirt long enough is hell). I tend to wear jeans and wife beater with an unbuttoned collared shirt in the summer, and flannel in the winter. I also tend to wear the shoes the podiatrist gives me (for now. So long medical insurance after 2025).

        I have 100 percent been confused for a skin head on numerous occasions. If I’m leaving Walmart after dark, women will rush to their cars if I have to pass close by. I don’t blame them. It sucks, but I’m glad they’re acting on their safety over my feelings. But it does still hurt my feelings. :/

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          I hear you friend. I’m 200 pounds 6’ even. I’m bald so I shave my head. On the funny side rarely people thank me for my service, or more often tell me I forgot my military discount.

          On the not so fun side it makes it difficult to buy drugs, and I love drugs.

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          3 months ago

          I was a CB but same at 6’1, also been a Niners fan my whole life. Thanks to all the maga shitbags now a white dude in a red cap…not the best look. I feel terrible every time I’m walking through a parking garage and see a woman double time it to her car but I totally understand, it makes me despise conservatives that little bit more.

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            3 months ago

            I would also suggest Duluth trading. It’s been my go to for a long time. Similar in quality to Carhartt but has more material options. Their dry on the fly line of stuff is 90% of what I wear.

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          If you’re 300 lbs, there’s no way you’re built like a linebacker. 240 is about max for a linebacker. I’m 6’4 and 220. You’re either muscle bound or built like a lineman.

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        My father sometimes complains that he cant wear his red fishing hat anymore, because unless you pay close attention to the different design on the front, it looks like a maga hat.

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    This has always kind of confused me. I remember back a few years ago on Reddit seeing posts about The kind of stuff that would be on craigslist and a lot of it was straight white men saying they are straight but asking for head or oral sex, and it really made me scratch my head. Like, how can you be completely straight but you want to have sex with someone else of the same gender? It was baffling honestly

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    3 months ago

    I don’t think there is any valid excuse to force somebody to “come out of the closet” against their will, even hypocrisy. It’s their choice to come out, not anybody else’s.

    I would expect that gay men, given the massive prosecution that they’ve been subject to in the past (and still are in many countries nowadays), would share that feeling, but maybe it’s because I’m from a generation that grew up at a time when homophobia was absolutely normal and later lived in places which weren’t like that at all were I’ve met gay men who had left their own countries in order to be able to be with the people they loved, and were I figured out just how unfair and casually nasty I had been in the years before.

    Doing this kind of thing thinking you’re holding a high moral ground because the other person is in some way immoral is exactly the kind of thinking extreme religious types have when they go after, amongst others, homosexuals.

    As much as I dislike conservatives, I dislike even more doing this shit to somebody and the kind of person who would do so.

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      Fuck that. People have a right to know if the people that make being gay illegal are also then criminals themselves.

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      If a bloke supports stripping of my rights, why would I respect his? Let him see what it’s like. May be he’ll learn a lesson, or at least be an example for others.

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      yeah, fuck that. if you’re spewing hatred and trying to control women directly or indirectly, you get what you fucking deserve. you couldnt leave people alone to live their lives without forcing your way in, so fuck you, open that closet door and expose them for their hypocrisy and bigotry.

      them being gay isn’t the problem, they could have chosen happiness also and treated people the way they wanted to be treated, but injecting your hatred to a topic that you yourself are in? some single digit IQ moves.

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    i’ve never been comfortable with the usage of the term “outing gay men” in this specific fairly negative context.

    their fallacy isn’t being gay – that by itself is nothing wrong and should never be associated with a public shaming exercise.

    no, the problem in this scenario is their hypocrisy in denigrating other gay men for their activities while indulging in those activities themselves.

    this whole series of events should be called “exposing the hypocrisy of loud-mouths” instead of “outing gay men”.

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      3 months ago

      It’s not outing gay men, it’s outing gay conservatives, which already has the loud mouth hypocrite angle covered.