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For the third time in a row
Funny - it’s the same for roughly 50% of Americans too - which is horrifying.
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Even as someone who clashes with Lemmy.world users every post, I highly doubt Kamala doesn’t have the vast majority of American support over Trump. It’s that people don’t vote
It’s that people don’t vote
Yes but also no: it’s mostly that many people either CAN’T vote or can but only with extreme exercise of patience and stamina.
Get rid of all the ridiculous voter suppression obstacles and you’ll see a dramatic uptick in voting and a corresponding shift towards Dems winning almost every election, making the GOP unviable within a decade.
Neither major party wants that, though, since the Dem leadership counts on running on fear of Republicans so that they won’t have to go further left than the owner donors are comfortable with.
If the Dems won every election on center left policies, the only option left to the Rs would be to do another party switch and go further left. That’s how we get an actual left wing party.
What?!? You mean we can’t virtue signal about how the Democrats have to earn our vote, not vote, and expect the party to move away from the side that actually votes?!?!?!?!?
I get so sick of fake leftists promoting behaviors that actively go against their stated goals. I guess they’re not all fake, some of them are just psycho accelerationists who would rather get ‘dictator on day one’ than let the Democrats have power because then they might think they won’t go left if they win (and won’t admit they will just keep going right like they’ve done for over half a century when they lose).
Electing a fascist dictator to own the liberals
Honestly, I’d be cool with that
We don’t have to wait for Republicans to want to become socialists (what the absolute fuck is this line of thinking?). We can have more then two viable political parties with a more representative electoral system like STAR voting.
How we.vote is.controlled.at the state level as well, so we don’t need a miracle to pass in congress to get these changes. In fact, some states have already passed legislation that replaced First Past The Post voting. Others are voting on it in referendums soon to!
So it’s possible, gets more people involved in the political process, and gets more votes for democrats.
we just need convince the DNC that democracy is a good thing.
It’s always that people don’t vote. Support without votes is empty wind.
That doesn’t change anything, tbh.
Apparently these people are at least complacent enough to let Trump become president. And that is horrifying.
Yeah, that’s a decision
Easy to say when you live somewhere that voting is easy.
You honestly think Jim Crow restrictions on voting ended? The Supreme Court itself struck down the Voting Rights Act, and now you can have a single polling station for a county.
I really hate reading about how difficult it is to vote in some places. I live in a suburb that is far enough from the city that it borders some rural areas. The area is very white, and something like 3/4 red. And it is SO easy for me to vote. Every year I don’t even look into voting early or by mail because I can just roll into my polling location and fill out a ballot in minutes. And that polling location only has to accommodate my local neighborhood, like hundreds of people at most.
It’s wild how much work goes into disenfranchising people in more blue areas. How can so many people work towards that without having the “are we the baddies” moment? (Rhetorical question, I do have eyes and ears and am well aware of the shitty state of our culture)
Yeah, it’s crazy that it not only happens but is apparently ok.
I rolled into my voting place after work, which you’d expect to be busy and no line. We’re in a high cost of living part of a high cost of living blue state, but most definitely not white nor wealthy. I assume it’s the blue state that wants everyone to vote although I certifiably don’t know if there are places here where it’s different
People that don’t bother to vote are as bad as Trump supporters. The true foundation of every autocratic regime is not fear, it’s not their real supporters, it’s people that don’t care what happens as long as it’s not happening to them (yet).
I don’t know. There’s a surprising amount of stupid people here. They live in near poverty and are easily manipulated into hating others as the reason for their miserable lives. It’s really that simple in my opinion. Yes there are lots of people who don’t vote, but I’m not sure that it would change the current split if they all did vote. We need more and better education.
Plus the system is rigged to count rural (and thus usually more conservative) votes more, so sane people have to turn out in greater numbers to keep sociopaths out of the white house
Then the people whose votes don’t matter electorally decide that the popular vote isn’t relevant, so they don’t bother.
Hey guys! If Kamala wins the popular vote by >70% but loses the election, there will be riots. There could be a revolution. And she has the numbers to do that if you guys could just vote.
If Kamala wins the popular vote by >70% but loses the election, there will be riots. There could be a revolution.
It’s adorable you think the Dems have the spine for that sort of thing.
agreed, Dem centrists havent even reached the concerned letter writing stage over a genocide. Thet are pretty far from any revolution.
My state is already called with 82% for Harris! I’m sure the final won’t be nearly that good but we’re on track to beat our previous score of 69% blue.
We’re doing what we can for popular vote
A silver spoon though.
We really need to run a lead test on that spoon
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Watch the next Canadian election and be equally dumbfounded / terrified.
Hey, remember when the liberal party of Canada ran and won on electoral reform? And then just went “nah bro” and didn’t get anything done about it?
Oopsie daisy gee golly isnt governing hard? Not that you would know because youre not in their club and you will never get a chance to govern.
Looks like now you have to vote for the liberals again or yous gets the conservatives again. Ahhh shucks ding dang it. What a conundrum. Quite the pickle ain’t it?
Sound familiar?
Yeah sounds familiar and I’ll vote Trudeau if it is needed to stop conservatives from getting in power.
Why? We are a multi party nation.
NDP is always pushed aside because people are scared of the cons.
The liberals are just as bad as the cons but in a different way.
Canada’s national identity is basically the results of the work of the NDP. Yet they are never given opportunity.
Look what happened in the States.
The fucking Antichrist now had another 4 years because the dems focused on their own interests instead of the common folk.
The liberals have ignored everyone but their faces in a mirror.
Nothing would have been accomplished if the NDP hadnt pushed them to.
Anyway, welcome to the tribulations.
People are clueless the literal hell they’ve unleashed.
Never voted liberal.
Will vote NDP again.
At least that election season won’t last more than 7 weeks. Instead of this insane 2 year marathon the US has.
2 year marathon is underselling it, I feel like we’ve been in election season since he came down that fucking escalator
We kinda have been. The media has realized how much their viewership (and therefore ratings/money) goes up when they constantly doom and gloom, and that orange fuck has been running a reelection campaign from the moment the previous election was called.
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Funny, I was watching tv and had a Canadian station on. Every other commercial break was a Pierre Putinfever ad.
In Canada, Elections campaigns can last a MAXIMUM of 50 days.
Somehow, in the past few years, the laws for campaign ads changed (thanks Crtc!) and they no longer fall into the category of a campaign.
And there are newish election laws that set out a ‘pre campaign period’ that allows further erosion of the campaign time limit restrictions.
That period - anytime after the last election.
Wtf.
Do you guys have term limits? Why is Justin running for fourth time?
No term limits.
An election must be called every 5 years at most. Sometimes an election will be a year or two after the last. The PM can call one anytime.
Technically, the PM is never elected. They’re the leader of the party. They don’t have to run. Or win.
Because he’s delusional, and he’s surrounded himself with sycophants, everyone else in the party who thinks he should’ve taken a cue from Biden and stepped down has been moved to the “backbenches”
To be fair, Justin is a prodigy at convincingly blowing hot air. It’s an essential skill for any politician, and he’s the best at it by far.
Undoubtedly, I just wish we didn’t suffer for it. He knows how we feel about him, but he only cares about how the world sees him.
Our politics are nowhere near as toxic and disturbing as the US. At least our Conservative party respects election results.
For now. Morons in Alberta fly Confederate flags, they’re getting fed the same right-wing bullshit. Everyone thought the Republicans would respect the transfer of power until January 6th.
The social media chatter during the convoy was all about how jt stole the election.
We have the crazies.
Genuine question, but why is Trump even allowed to run? I vaguely know that there are some restrictions on who can become President (you have to be a certain age and be born in the USA iirc), how can it be that “Hasn’t been convicted for any crimes recently” isn’t a requirement?
He is literally barred from running by the Constitution because he committed an insurrection. Unfortunately the House, Senate, and Supreme Court are all somewhere between 50 and 67% Christofascist traitors.
He literally isn’t. If he literally was, he wouldn’t be running. He literally should be, by a literal interpretation of the law, but that’s literally not what’s happened.
I feel like they should introduce a rule that says that if you’re more bronzer than flesh, you’re not allowed to stand.
because political dissidents who are in jail for trying to overthrow a dictatorship should also be able to run. it’s one of those unfortunate situations where this would be a good thing to have under an authoritarian government…
It probably wouldn’t be allowed under an authoritarian government though…
of course not. the american “system of checks and balances” only works if everyone plays by the rules.
Under an authorisation government though I assume the law would be rescinded, so it’s not really protecting anybody.
I mean becoming an authoritarian government to prevent an authoritarian government doesn’t really make sense
Sometimes you need to fight fire with fire
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That’s like saying we shouldn’t send anyone to prison because some of them might be innocent. You have to try your best with a system but that system has to be robust enough that it cannot be abused otherwise it will end up being abused.
If you want a system that cannot be abused then don’t remove the safeguards designed to fix mistakes.
Allowed innocents to be released from prison, and allow the disenfranchised to regain their voting rights.
This is why there is always a higher power to overrule previous decisions, and when it comes to elections there is no higher power than a majority.
It’s one of those safe-guards that democracy implements that’s currently having rather unintended consequences.
The reasoning is that taking away voting rights is far too easy to abuse, and if a majority of people agree with whomever you wanted to prevent from voting/getting elected then you’re fucked anyway.
Which, incidentally, is looking like a very real possibility right now.
That reasoning is missing a crucial part: even if you’re fucked anyway, why is it still okay to put a criminal in charge? Will it improve anything? Or do we think of the “fucked” condition very differently?
Democracy isn’t really meant to prevent something the majority wants.
If the majority wants a criminal to lead the country they’ll elect them, or someone with the same policies, or someone who promises to put the criminal in power. The end result isn’t all that different, and the latter two could be worse in some ways.
In a democracy the majority rules, and should they decide to put a lunatic in charge, well, that would be the least of your problems.
…again
Watching America edging fascism is my pastime in between watching my own country edging fascism.
Which country?
I’m currently guessing Poland or Bellarussia
You’ve guessed right — It’s Poland.
If one of your biggest issues with someone is the ‘IQ’ maybe reassess your position. he’s kinda goofy. He’s a fucking fascist, call him that.
Who are you arguing with? Definitely not op because nobody said anything about trump being goofy. And did you miss the bits about rape, racism and felony convictions?
The writers really know how to keep the audience biting their nails, this season
Every season needs to top the previous one. Wait until you see what’s in store for next season!!!
Let’s not forget the two impeachments too
Let’s also not forget that he’s on pre-trial release in two criminal cases, and it’s not just the pre-sentencing release he’s on for cheating in the 2016 election.
I know! It seemingly shouldn’t be too hard of a choice. Who the Fuck would trust a career politician!?
/J (because scarily, it’s needed)
As much as I’d like to make fun of the 'muricans, I’m well aware Brazil would totally do the same fucking thing with jair bolsonaro. Thankfully the fucker is ineligible for another 7 or so years, but his sons are still causing trouble.
TIL “Papa Smurf” is Brazilian
Wait what?
This is the scene in question.
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyiDf91_bTEgnBN0jAvzNbqzrlMGID5WA&si=HjyRfA0C5nrWE5PC
That is the playlist I would recommend for a newbie to the WH40K universe.
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyiDf91_bTEhDRwqQfqVwaKFeBaTVesHh&si=aLLGurluU8wh0Mze
That is the playlist I would recommend to anyone that actually knows the ending of ITEHATTS.
Fuck GW for their anti-competitive BS.
Oooooohhhh, I don’t think I’ve seen that episode of TTS Emperor! Why yes, I am Marneus Calgar of the Ultrasmurfs and totally not an alphabet legionnaire of a certain scaly type! 🐉🐉
I know “I cast fist” from If The Emperor had a Text To Speech. In that webseries, Big E refers to Marneus Calgar as “Papa Smurf.” Marneus Calgar is the Chaptermaster of The Ultramarines, and he is Ultra-depressed.
If you haven’t seen it, it’s an excellent primer to the lore of Warhammer 40k. It’s like 99% canon, other than the fact that Big E never got a way to talk to anyone in the Imperium after the Horus Humbug happened, and Big E got trapped on The Golden Throne.
The “I cast fist” meme predates that, which is where I based my username from :)
Don’t forget ol’ Boris J.
I think most countries have had a trump sometime in the last 20 years. I say this with no factual basis.
Luckily he’s too lazy to be a competent fascist.
That’s what we thought about Trump.
He’s got people to do the heavy lifting.
That’s the scary part. Maybe there are some competent people back there this time.
I prefer using the sobriquet BoJo
Don’t forget the fake communists bragging that they won’t support genocide and that’s why they’re not voting.
Hey, fake communists: do you drive a car? Do you emit carbon dioxide that is projected to cause 1 billion deaths, mainly in poorer countries, by 2050? If so, why do you support genocide? You refuse to support genocide one day every 4 years, but actively participate the other 1460?
We should improve the system somewhat.
Not voting for the lesser evil, thereby allowing the much greater evil to get into power, is not working to improve the system, medieval peasant.
So then you disagree with GP, who called it supporting genocide.
Who’s GP?
Grandparent Post (drag)
Whoever wins or loses today. I’ll still be investing in Israeli property developments in Gaza and the west bank. You’d be a fool not to. It’s a guaranteed investment. The Palestinians lost and they’re never getting that land back.
That doesn’t mean a fascist goverment will keep its promises to you…
first time in my life i have been praying that anyone supporting or benefiting from this dies of from a long painful cancer and then in afterlife tormented brutally in hell for eternity. i even went to a church last month for the extra push.
People have been protesting for a year, but not only have the democrats vilified these protests and not paid them any mind, but things have only gotten worse in Palestine. For over 40+ Israel has been stealing land from the Palestinians . In the last year, there’s death marches and mass starvation happening in Gaza, all while the democrats are doing everything in their power to provide cover for the genocide and lie to the people and tell them that they’re tirelessly working towards a cease fire. No matter how much you scream, the Dems aren’t caring, and with every day that passes even more people are horribly killed and maimed. It makes perfect sense to profit off this genocide. It’s not going anywhere. I as a Westerner might as well accept what we’re doing and build a house on the burial grounds of the dead. Just like what we did to the native population of the Americas.
Yes we should. Drag is improving the system by not driving a car and campaigning for Harris. You seem to think you can improve the system by ignoring politics and continuing to drive your car.
I don’t own a car either but unless we improve public transit and city planning in the US there are situations where not using a car is simply impractical. My city is enormous and while my ebike works for shopping trips and getting to places <20mi away, I can just barely reach downtown and back with it before it dies. If it’s pouring rain, it’s not waterproof and it gets me soaked which is both uncomfortable and a health hazard. There are a lot of activities promoted by leftists in my area that I don’t go to because I would be spending 3 hours in transit to get there and back and I simply don’t have time for that (and Uber is too expensive). There are other places that take 3 hours one way to get to on public transit but 20 minutes by car. Where I live is not at all designed with sustainable transit in mind, and while I don’t own a car here I don’t blame people for wanting to use one. Not to mention I have almost been killed multiple times because the cycling infrastructure here is 45mph 6 line roads with no sidewalk or bike lane.
It sounds like you’re saying that not participating in genocide is toooo haaaaaard.
Do you live in a city with sane transit? (Also I put more effort into avoiding cars than basically everyone I know where I live, nobody else I know uses a bike.)
Don’t support genocide. It’s as simple as that.
Do you pay taxes? You could choose to just go to jail instead. Do you use a device made with slave labor? You could choose to abstain from technology and not post on Lemmy. Do you work for a corporation? You could choose not to help them do shitty things and not get your basic needs met. If you said yes to any of these you are being hypocritical.
Yesterday’s John Oliver introduced me to the concept of vote swapping and I am so pissed this wasn’t pushed for third party/protest voters. Basically, if you live in a swing state and absolutely insist on not voting for the Dems, find someone in a blue state who planned on voting for Harris and let them do a protest vote on your behalf, while you vote for Harris on their behalf. Why didn’t I hear about this earlier?! (I live in Germany tho, so maybe it is a thing?)
I did this back in 2000. I wanted to vote for Nader but lived in a swing state, so they connected me with someone in a solidly blue state and we swapped votes. And I’m surprised as you that we didn’t do it this time around.
You_IRL
Did you know that with more representative voting systems, people would be free to vote for whomsoever they wish, secure in the knowledge their vote would still be casted against those they don’t want in office?
I invite you to my asklemmy post to discuss your recent commitment to replacing First Past The Post voting in your state so people can vote freely.
Calling out the objectively stupid people who are refusing to vote Harris over Gaza does not make someone inherently against better voting systems. I’m not even sure why you’re bringing that up as if it’s relevant; nobody was talking about it and most people here are for it anyway.
Yes, drag very much enjoys voting for the socialist party in drag’s home state, which uses ranked choice voting. Drag can do what americans can’t, because people in drag’s country actually work to make things better, while americans think they can achieve voting reform by refusing to participate in politics.
Drag doesn’t drive a car. Drag is improving society somewhat. And drag’s state has already implemented ranked choice voting.
Drag isn’t arguing against the idea of improving things, drag is complaining that you, personally, don’t do it.
there is no spoon. seriously though, that level of iq is shared by those very supporters so they are supporting one of their own by their ‘logic’.
