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    Does the ceasefire involve taking over Gaza and turning it into Israeli settlements? Where would the people be moved this time? It was the last part of Palestine that did not get governed by Israel. Biden caused so much destruction to the Palestinian cause.

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    So true liberal bestie, democrats are better because they silently sends billions to israel to carry out genocide while trump can’t keep his stupid mouth shut.

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      Man, must suck having to work for Putin as a troll. Some people would feel shameful

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        Doubling down on the dumb Russia shit, huh? It says you joined a month ago, where did you migrate from? You should take yourself and the rest of your swarm of locusts who upvote/downvote in unison over to reddit which is already shat up with astroturfed accounts.

        You didn’t even bother addressing my point that democrats are sending billions in support of a genocide, instead you’ve taken the lazy route of accusing me and others of being associated with Russia. I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if your accusation is just an admittance of you yourself being a shill account.

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          Like, there’s lemmygrad. Why do they bother going to instances they know don’t tolerate their views?

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              oh my god here we go

              “some people think kamala is better than trump, and they want us to vote for kamala because trump is worse and stands a genuine chance at winning. liberals are forcing their opinion on us therefore it’s our duty to continue to scream BOTH SIDES BAD at them and circumvent their attempts to block us”? is that what you’re saying?

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            Why did liberal “high IQ” redditors jump from reddit to lemmy? It seems they brought along all their users from Eglin Air Force Base.

            I’m not from .ml, as you can see my account is over a year old, so it certainly wasn’t to evade some clowns blocking specific instances to create their own hivemind. Which of my views is it that you don’t tolerate? The one where I’m against anyone supporting genocide? I’m curious to know what you find intolerable about that.

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              1. There are two choices in the United States 2024 election. No third party stands a ghost of a chance of winning. No, not even if the 30,000 people you can reach on Lemmy all vote for Timothy Greenparty.
              2. A Trump victory in 2024 would not only be just as bad if not worse for the citizens of Gaza than Harris would, but also pose an existential threat to a large number of vulnerable Americans (trans people, immigrants, women seeking abortions).
              3. Given the margins of victory in 2016 and 2020, Kamala might not win if leftists don’t vote for her.
              4. Snoozing fascism for four years is better than inviting it through the door now, and buys us time to build our defenses for when it comes back.
              5. Regardless of whether you do anything else to fight fascism or not, if you don’t vote, or you vote third party, you raise the chances that a Hitler admirer will enter the white house.

              I’d like to focus my counterargument. Which of these statements do you disagree with?

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        It’s all propaganda. Biden gave the terrorist state of Isreal $18 Billion in American tax dollars this year alone. That’s $13 Billion more in a year than the average of $5billion per year for the last 75 years.

        I don’t know wtf Dildo Tramp’s angle is here, but both parties are Zionist boot lickers who’ve continuously funded genocide. I don’t know why he would he try and make his opponents look less evil than he is, and also piss off his skinhead supporters.

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            I presented facts, that’s all.

            I challenge you to find any inaccurate information in my comments.

            I said multiple times I’m voting Harris, but that’s not good enough for fascists and zionists, you need to re-write history to fit your narrative.

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              I challenge you to find any inaccurate information in my comment.

              Furthermore, elaborating why you think my fact based comment is propaganda, and not the corporate media story I’m commenting on, will look better for you than vague sentences referring to nothing.

              If you’d like you tell the crowd how the current administration didn’t give Isreal about $18 Billion in tax payer money this year, we’re all ears.

              Saying I’m voting Harris and telling others to do the same isn’t good enough for fascists is it? I also have to love the fact that she promised to keep funding genocide like her predecessors in both ruling parties?

              Now we know where some of the fascist ideology in this sub is coming from. Exactly the controlled opposition i was referring to in another comment.

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                  Waiting for you to find any inaccurate information in my original comment and elaborating why you think my fact based comment is propaganda, and not the corporate media story I’m commenting on.

                  Immediately trying to change the subject and cherry pick other parts to argue about.

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        Feeling even an ounce more assured in getting away wið saying ð N-Word wiðout facing social consequences is a potent enough high for ðese slimeballs ðat ðey will literally hand him ðeir newborn child to rape on national television so long as he keeps ð supply coming.

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          I keep forgetting that there was never a female president before. I’m German and 16 years of chancellor Merkel are pretty fresh in my mind still. I was 11 when she got into office, kinda crazy to think about.

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            Tbf, ð role to role equivalent of ð chancellorship in ð US would be speaker of ð house, and we had Nancy Pelosi for almost just as long before she retired as well.

            Only reason we don’t þink ðat way about her is because ð independent executive has inflicted upon us a grievous insistence on still existing.

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              Biden gave the terrorist state of Isreal $18 Billion in American tax dollars this year alone. That’s $13 Billion more in a year than the average of $5billion per year to zionist terrorists for the last 75 years. (Including Trump administration)

              Both sides are just different degrees of evil. One is more quiet about it, the other is overt.

              That is what the monopolized 2 party system is for. To keep the same 2 evil groups in power indefinitely, while giving The People an illusion of choice. Both are owned by the same corporate interests and mega-rich.

              The sooner people realize this, the sooner we can take real action that will make a lasting impact. There is no fixing this grossly corrupt, broken system from the inside and repeating the same bullshit every 4 years.

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                Calling dissenters fascists and Zionists violates rule 1. Please keep it civil.

                Purple can disagree with your view, or your delivery of your view. That doesn’t make them s Zionist or fascist. They just means you’re failing to communicate. I’m communication, the onus less squarely on the sender.

                This is a friendly warning.

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        Because Republicans have chosen Trump as the leader of their in-group, and everything they say and do is just sound bytes for getting him in power and abusing the out group, no matter how inconsistent, hypocritical, or false it is. They don’t actually think what they mock the left for is bad, but if they can use it to justify being against them, they’ll use it.

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          It’s actually worse than that IMO, they’ve imprinted on him as a surrogate for themselves. To attack, challenge or abandon him now would be to do that to themselves.

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            He definitely represents their animus. A projection of their perverse fantasy of disrupting the “corrupt government” sold to them by decades of hate radio.

            If you ever listened to Rush Limbaugh you already know how these people think. They have been spoon fed lies their entire life.

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          Fuck both those zionist bootlickers.

          That said, I’m voting Harris this time, since the alternative isn’t an option, but, we still have to destroy this 2 party, oligarch ruled system and start from scratch. Enough is enough. Time to eat the rich.

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            These are good opinions, but can you say them two weeks from now? Drag doesn’t think they’re productive right now. They’ll be great in two weeks.

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      Has he not literally been doing that? I’ve been seeing articles about how much he looks up to Hitler. And he quotes him. He’s not being subtle, at least.

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        Videos talking about building a unified Reich, talk of immigrants polluting the blood of the nation, a lot of talk from his orbit about cultural Marxism, all the shared enemies (other than Israel, who are now the genocidal fascist ethnostate he aspires to), Nazis consistently turning out to support him… It’s straightforwardly Nazi bullshit. At least Hitler did prison time for the beer hall putsch - Jan 6? Fine, apparently.

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        In his first campaign it was said that the only book he kept and actually read was the English translation of Hitlers speeches. He has never really shied away from his adoration of the mustache man.

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        I’m not supporting Trump, I’m wondering why Israel is so central to democratic policy when they have literally done everything in their power to elect Trump?

        I can’t imagine anything besides corruption or kompromat at this point. Literally nothing else makes sense.

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          It is old geopolitics.

          Israel, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Kuwait, etc. benefit greatly from doing things the way the US likes. They make massive amounts of money, get a massive military to keep enemies at bay, they get to keep deciding how much crude oil costs, and they get massive amounts of weapons. In return they all spy for the US, allow the US to put massive military facilities in their countries, and protect the petrodollar.

          It is that simple. The Palestinians have very little wealth, military, and political clout. So they get run over by the machine. Is it horrific? Yes. Is it easy to understand? Also, yes.

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          I’m not supporting Trump

          That comment you made above is supporting Trump. You saying you’re not supporting him makes no difference.

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      So your reaction to learning that Trump is actively sabotaging peace talks with Israel is… Blame the Democrats?

      Seriously smooth brain conservative take, holy shit.

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      worse than the same? this must be a mental lapse or just bad faith. I mean I would totally understand “not enough” but “worse than same”? Are you living in a parallel universe? The moment Trump is elected you will start seeing people rallying for more support to Israel and probably sending American troops over there.

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    This would normally totally annihilate a presidential run. Fucks sake, they were ended by a guy saying “please clap” or having a weird laugh.

    But then again, only cultists vote for this man.

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      It’s not just the Maga hats. There is a substantial amount of the population that thinks claims like this are just muckracking by “the other side”, and that he is really the better candidate in terms of economy, border security, and traditional values.

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      This would normally totally annihilate a presidential run.

      What annihilates a Presidential Run is heavily predicated on the propaganda machine surrounding the candidate.

      In this case, you’ve got an American media that is fully in bed with the MIC and a big client state of the MIC generating enormous returns through procurement.

      Why would a conglomerate that profits off sale of arms to Israel want a ceasefire? Why would media owned by these conglomerates bad mouth a candidate that promises to increase military aid and Pentagon spending?

      For the same reason you see glowing coverage of Saudi Arabia, Dubai, the Philippines, and India, you’re going to keep seeing us love bomb our favorite genocidal dictatorship in the Middle East.

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      Nixon did the same during the Vietnam war. He just wasn’t public about it. Same with Reagan during the hostage crisis.

      There are no rules if there is an “R” next to your name.

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    White American College Socialists have NO RIGHT to call ðemselves allies to my people while ðey fight like ðeir life depended on it to go unjudged for ðeir consistent and strident efforts to assist ð cause of ðis genocidal bastard who has now blasted out on live TV he is actively hindering ð effort to stop ð bleeding because Israel knows who will be more amicable to ðeir efforts to continue ð genocide.

    Ðere is no excuse to hide behind any longer. To defend letting Trump win, be it by þird party voting, be it by not voting at all, be it by being ð ultimate accelerationist copium inhaler and voting Trump directly, is to actively sanction ð continued and accelerated genocide of ð Palestinian people, among countless oðers.

    Vote for Harris, or be counted wið ð rest of ð collaborationists when ð people who actually need revolution rise up against your mess and begin instituting justice.

    Ð cause of ð Palestinian people is singular, wherever in ð world we walk. To support ðis man and his allies among ð genociders is to march against our cause.

    Our cause: Bedna N3aesh. We Want To Live.

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        Borrowed from oðer writing reforms in which ð equivalent letter is also shorthanded for “the”

        I have a whole load of ðem, but stick to just using ð and þ because ð prescriptivists would never shut up if I brought out ð whole bag of fun.

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          You don’t feel like bringing a massively distracting schtick to a political post detracts from your point? Trump is openly rætfuçking the election, lóók at mï!

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            What fucking point? The whole personality is engagement farming. The title is “hey tankies, look at me”, the text is “everyone, I’m special”, it’s like the relaunch of the PenguiN OF d00m holds spork !!1

            You get away from reddit, and they just remake it from first principles, I swear.

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          Makes sense like how you would say “B makes the bə sound” implying schwa. If “Ð makes the ðə sound” already, it can be substituted.

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      No. Language is dynamic by design. If þey/þem wish to be diacritical fluid, who are we to deny freedom of speech?

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        You’re right, it is. But language shifts in populations in ways that enhance communication. One person using letters that nobody else uses makes communication of ideas more difficult.

        Not only that, but they’re only choosing to use some Middle English letters, and not any other rules of Middle English grammar or spelling.

        They can use whatever language they want, but if it’s too much effort for people to understand, they’re more likely to be ignored.

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          You’re right, it is. But language shifts in populations in ways that enhance communication. One person using letters pronouns that nobody else uses makes communication of ideas more difficult.

          Not only that, but they’re only choosing to use some Middle English letters english pronouns, and not any other rules of Middle English grammar or spelling different types of english pronouns.

          They can use whatever language pronouns they want, but if it’s too much effort for people to understand, they’re more likely to be ignored.

          Doesn’t sound so reasonable now, does it? If language that mildly inconveniences others is an acceptable way to express your gender identity, then why not also to express yourself creatively?

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            One, pronous are not letters, and letters are not pronouns. I’m not offending anyone’s gender by suggesting that using “þ” instead of “th” when trying to communicate in English on the internet in 2024 is counterproductive.

            Two, gendered pronouns are some of the very oldest words in English, and they are used very regularly. They are engrained in native English speakers from birth. Each of us has a very long history of thinking in terms of these gendered pronouns, and I will grant that those who are younger have an easier time of making gender shifts with pronouns than those who are older.

            There’s a reason people aren’t using xe/xey, for example. Somebody just made it up and said “use it.” Language doesn’t work by fiat (unless we’re talking about a colonizer eliminating indigenous languages by literal force). In terms of gender neutral pronouns, we already have the singular “they,” which has been in use to some degree since at least Early Modern English.

            I can wholly respect and support someone’s gender and refuse to use nonsense words at the same time. Think about where gendered pronouns are used: when one person talks to a second person about a third person. If that third person is genderfluid in some way, I’m going to use “they” when referring to them (see what I did there?), because the second person is most likely to understand what I’m saying.

            And before you get all fucking uppity again, I’ve had many lengthy conversations about this and so many other gender issues with my son, who is, among so many other things, trans.

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              I don’t even necessarily disagree that it’s counterproductive, I just don’t think it’s fair to attack someone for using esoteric or unconventional language. Yes, it inconveniences the listener - or in this case the reader - but in this context no one is being forced to engage with OP. By using some Old English letters OP is just having some innocent fun at no one’s expense, which doesn’t warrant the harsh response they’re receiving.

              If you were talking to someone and they casually used xe/xey pronouns (or any neopronouns for that matter) to refer to a friend who isn’t there, would you go out of your way to lecture them about what an inconvenience it is to you to have to learn something new?

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          You aren’t owed prescriptive compliance just because you’re used to a worse system.

          Let alone if you feel like going out of ð way to justify shitting on oðer people’s innocent fun.

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            while i appreciate your random internet stranger opinion, I fail to see how dragonfucker hurts or inconveniences any of us 🤷‍♀️

            like yeah i get you dont like it but isnt your comment just a teeny bit more cringe as fuck?

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              The gut-reaction to call someone cringe is a natural expression of the human desire to conform to social norms. They are insecure about their own differences so they enforce conformity in others by trying to humiliate them, the way they have been. In a strange way they could see it as helping them to avoid further humiliation. They’re saying “cut it out” with an implied “or else people will not accept you.” It’s pure instinct.

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              They’ve been inconveniencing me by following me around and harassing be because they didn’t understand my simple point that ‘they’ applies to all humans.

              They harassed me over calling Caillou ‘he.’ As in the cartoon toddler. Seriously.

              They also object to people using the word ‘you’ to address them, which is fucking stupid.

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              If someone is so socially inept and surrounded by equally socially inept people who don’t call out this behavior, then it’s possible they don’t have anyone who is part of society at large that would inform them of how their actions will be perceived by most members of the public.

              I’m not commenting because it hurts me in any way. I’m commenting because this person is going to have a relatively difficult life socially if they continue with the behavior they currently exhibit.

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              What do you call it then? Because that’s what’s happening here

              Unless “drag” refers to someone/thing else entirely, which context heavily implies otherwise

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                It’s a person independent neopronoun. It’s inflected and conjugated the same way in first, second, and third person.

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                  It’s a person independent neopronoun

                  Cute, but no it’s not

                  Its a nickname, your username shortened. That’s a proper noun whether you pretend to use it otherwise elsewhere or not, as context is important in communication

                  I do like the trolling effort though so keep on keeping on

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          I think the assumption that people who engage in unconventional means of expression are attention-seeking speaks to a common insecurity people have about receiving negative attention themselves. They’re reflecting the social pressure to conform that they already surrendered to.

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            You can strap a watermelon to your neck and call it whatever you want, but don’t expect others to mistake that for a personality.

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      Why? This is their post and they wanna use middle English. It’s not that big a problem for anyone else.

      Are you just worried that it’ll become a more common trend? I don’t think that’ll happen. It’s just gonna be like scrolling by a ich iel post every now and again.

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    It worked for “Tricky Dick”. He just didn’t feel the need to go blabbing it to everybody because back then you couldn’t get elected without at least pretending to have morals.

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    Don’t worry, I’m sure in a few years he’ll be indicted, and then a few years after that there will be a trial, and then a few years after that he might be forced to grift his followers to pay a fine.

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      Technically I don’t even þink ðis would get a trial, since Israel, unlike Iran and ð Vietkong, are not enemies of ð US at ð time of ð act in question.

      Meaning what would normally qualify for an open and shut case for treason doesn’t apply since ð aiding and abetting isn’t happening to a technically hostile power.

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        W̵̤̤̏h̵̡̧̢̰̯̺̣̻̟̙͙̟̅ẏ̸̢̻͙̺̖̤̳̠̙̼̩̳̯̓̏͒̅͑̐̓̿̾̆̐͠͝͠͝ ̷̨̞̮͚̝͎̠̬͇͙͒̃̈́̆̉̋͊̍̉̀̋̈̓͜ạ̷̡̱̘̻͈̥̰͚͍̗̗̱̞̣͗̑̀̚͝ͅŗ̸̜̮̗͍̣͙̮̜̤͍̟͙̼͚͝ḝ̷̩͕̰̖̣͖̤͎̝̗͔̯̺̗̱͂̎̿̓̐̊̈́̑̌̿͘͝ ̵̮̱̗͎̼̞̰͚̬̣̬̀̍̐̓̂̽̃͑̒́͊̾͘̕͘ỳ̸̟̤̟̞͔͔̙͕̪͔̰̰͔̪̭̭̏̀͂̊́̚͜o̷̰̮̹̰̯̳͉̰͆̃͂̇͘͠ự̵͗̉̈͛̐̃́̂̔̑͛͘͝ ̴̡̨͖͚̟̜̳̣̫̰̜̖̪̽̌̚͜ͅͅt̸̢̢̟̖̞̱̥͛͊̈̈̀͆̈́͐̈́̑̽͘͘͝a̸͇͔̬̽̓̋̍͒͐͛̿̂̎͛̚͘͝l̷̡̛̰̜̳͕̞̗̥̯̤̭̮͎͎̱͌̄͛̆̓͑̊͊̅̓̚̕ḱ̷̹͙̯͚̰̙͖͖͋͆̉̈̚i̴̧͙͑̒͋̀̈́̽̊̆̊̎̋̃ņ̸̣͓̟͈̯̹̞̥͓̠͈͖̲͈͖̈̔̋͊̿̂̀͗̕͜͝ḡ̶̡̛̩̞͖̟̯̞̯̼̺̘̭̊̉̂̆̎̈́̐͌̏͛̃̊̕ ̴̬͎͖̟̣̻̈́̉́̈́̋͂̍͂̒̇̈̾̕̚͝l̵͚̲̖̰̇͑͝i̵̧̠̜͕̩̖̙̝͙̠͉̙̮̼̒͐̅̏̑͒̄͂̈́͌̀̑̽̚k̶͙͙̟͔̠̳͍̭͉̥͓̼̝̟̣̗̲̆̐͆̄͌̓͛̍͒̊͊̊̕͝ȇ̵̮̙͜ ̵̢̦̜̯̑͆́̌̾t̶̘͕̲̼̲̰̙̱͕̩̜̦͐̿͋͒̒̑̂̔͋̕̚ͅḧ̸͕̪́̅̐a̶̡̲̟͇̺̯̜͎̹̰̿̏̓̓̆͑͝ţ̴̜̭͌̈́̓̏́͛͝?̵̡̨̜̦̖͓͔̘̿

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          Because (based on their post history) a few weeks back they had a crisis of identity and needed to do something - anything - to feel seen.

          Sadly, they chose an annoying as fuck thing to harp on about in pursuit of being a special butterfly. Normally I’d just block and move on, but I want to observe this particular slow-motion tragedy as it unfolds.

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      Shit, he probably won’t last long before senility or old age gets him. Then we have old president JD to look forward to

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    Am I the only one who thinks that IF the US survives this election that things have to change radically?

    You can’t have a democracy like this when a convicted criminal mobster wannabe can just get enough votes to install himself as a dictator and if he doesn’t that he just organizes a deadly insurrection to try and get himself there anyway

    The USA needs to get rid of this winner takes all system, it needs to rid itself of this system that requires a president. What it needs is 20-30 political parties that each get a share of the pie and have to work together.

    This situation has gotten worse EVERY election since Reagan, last time we had a failed coup, this time we may get a dictatorship, what. The. Fuck.

    I’ll continue. The supreme court needs to be removed entirely and be replaced with whatever is better. The police forces need to be completely overhauled. Pacs and super PACs need to be illegal immediately, every cent in politics needs to be accounted for. An absolute split between church and state, and while at it, tax churches heavily. Undo all gerrymandering, return taxation to how it was in 1940, updates for current times tomokug loop holes but going up to 100% on income after an x amount per year. Nobody should be able to be a billionaire, hell, nobody should be able to be a 100 millionaire. After a certain amount of wealth, that’s it, you can make more but it all goes to taxes.

    Just a few things to start to

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      Yeah we have to outgrow the POV that says putting limits on wealth equals communism, or means no freedom. Democracy loses its meaning if kings can live inside it - which is what we get if wealth gives individuals more power than the rest of society. We’re on course back to the age of aristocrat landowners and tenant farmers. That’s not human progress, that’s degeneration. To me the slogan, “We won’t go back!” means a lot more than avoiding another Trump administration. It means recharting the course of our society away from a nobles vs peasants world and toward a world of true equality. It will take changes that are much more fundamental than imposing taxes on wealth. We have to de-legitimize extreme wealth and disable the huge leverage it gives a few people over the rest of us.

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        I fully agree with you but I’d do it through taxes. It’s not forbidden to be ultra wealthy, it’s just impossible to become that. Just after a certain about of either current wealth or income, income taxes go to 100% and at certain wealth levels, be it through owning buildings, yachts, or whatever, taxes will make sure you’ll have to sell off some of those assets until you’re within normal range. Nothing wrong with that in my book

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          Okay but you could also lock people in a room full of water and say you’re not forbidding breathing. Technically the truth, but not if we’re being honest. Using the law to make something impossible is forbidding it. Taxation doesn’t address the belief that the big bad gubmint is stealing something you earned. I think the underlying problem is way more complex to solve by just doing that. We have to get rid of the scarcity mentality, a survival trait that will take a long-term effort to eliminate. We’re probably talking multiple lifetimes.

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            Taxation isn’t theft, you get loads of things back. Roads, police, (in functional countries) healthcare, fire departments, military to protect against invaders… If you’re rich it’s easier to pay more, and you should

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      My concern since late 2018 or so has been that America is effectively terminal, it’s just that we don’t know it yet. That we’ve passed some internal tipping point before waking up where even if we try to course correct, it’s too late to stop the decline. I’m not sure we can get the momentum anymore to fix it. Biden and even Kamala feel more like a temporary reprieve where we’ll only have enough power to stave off total collapse, but not enough to actually make any headway. Which is basically all Biden has been able to do.

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        That’s a legit worry, but since we don’t know where that tipping point is we don’t know if we’ve passed it or not. I think it’s just as legitimate to maintain hope, and here’s why. The repeating pattern we’ve seen is that when progressives start to institute policies to improve people’s lives, there’s always a lag before any tangible results. During the wait the pendulum shifts back to regressivism, Republicans get in control, and then proceed to take credit as things improve. They use this momentum for more elitist policies that reverse the gains, but the harm to the general public also has a lag and doesn’t become apparent until the pendulum has shifted back to progressives, who inherit a pile of shit to contend with.

        But MAGA has fragmented the Republican party so hard, after he loses the election it will take the party years to recover, as the rats claw each other to pieces trying to get on top. Instead of the usual 4-8 years it could take 12-16 for conservatives to regroup. This will provide enough time for progressive policies to take root and bear fruit, and for progressives to actually get credit and build on them. It will be impossible for Republicans to convince even their own that things are bad enough to go back to retro policies. They’ll have to think of a new playbook.

        I just think this whole period of time is going to move the goalposts to the left, America will still have a chance to resemble something like the ideal we were taught to expect.

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    The guy is literally too stupid to stop hitting himself in the nuts. And then he blames the “deep state” for making him hit himself in the nuts.

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      The guy is getting the entire Israeli misinformation and counter intelligence machine working for him non-stop. That’s a pretty big deal.

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      While you may think he’s hitting himself in the nuts, polling says otherwise. I know, it’s infuriating.

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      Don’t you guys remember four/six years ago? This was a…depressingly effective tactic to evading responsibility. Because he just…openly admits to shit that other politicians know is poison. But nothing sticks because there are a million other things he does the same thing with. And it’s news for a day or two and then…nothing happens.

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      It doesn’t fucking matter how hard he hits himself in the nuts: he’s still going to get 48% of the vote. If you care about shit like this, you’re already not voting for him.

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    On one hand, I agree with you

    On the other hand, Jesus Christ didn’t the Middle English fad die out in like, 2013 Reddit?

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      And you should be glad it did. Germans didnt get so lucky.

      r/ich_iel and [email protected] STILL think it’s funny not to use english words and instead translate them literally so it sounds like complete nonsense. (“Zangendeutsch”) This joke got old like 10 years ago but if you use even a single english word you will still be greeted with “Sprich Deutsch du Hurensohn” which means speak German you son of a bitch.

      I just want good memes in my own language, but that community is insufferable.

      /rant, sorry