On one hand, I agree with you
On the other hand, Jesus Christ didn’t the Middle English fad die out in like, 2013 Reddit?
And you should be glad it did. Germans didnt get so lucky.
r/ich_iel and [email protected] STILL think it’s funny not to use english words and instead translate them literally so it sounds like complete nonsense. (“Zangendeutsch”) This joke got old like 10 years ago but if you use even a single english word you will still be greeted with “Sprich Deutsch du Hurensohn” which means speak German you son of a bitch.
I just want good memes in my own language, but that community is insufferable.
/rant, sorry
Wait wait wait, that community is… real Germans, but they speak broken German as a joke? Holy shit I thought this kind of dumb was reserved to English…
every language has its own group of scoundrels
Yeah they translate every English word literally as a meme. Like Facebook becomes Gesichtbuch. Personally, I find it hilarious.
Foliant der Antlitze
Und es ist auch immernoch fickend lustig du Hurensohn!
To be fair, although Zangendeutsch is commonly used for shits and giggles the reaction to English words hasn’t been this way since some time after Reddit.
It evolved into an ironic [email protected] style complete-the-sentence thingy where everything goes.
Damn, Trump must be making Biden and Harris give unequivocal support to Netanyahu’s genocide too! The conspiracy goes deeper than I thought.
The daily edge hahaha I’m mature
Am I the only one who thinks that IF the US survives this election that things have to change radically?
You can’t have a democracy like this when a convicted criminal mobster wannabe can just get enough votes to install himself as a dictator and if he doesn’t that he just organizes a deadly insurrection to try and get himself there anyway
The USA needs to get rid of this winner takes all system, it needs to rid itself of this system that requires a president. What it needs is 20-30 political parties that each get a share of the pie and have to work together.
This situation has gotten worse EVERY election since Reagan, last time we had a failed coup, this time we may get a dictatorship, what. The. Fuck.
I’ll continue. The supreme court needs to be removed entirely and be replaced with whatever is better. The police forces need to be completely overhauled. Pacs and super PACs need to be illegal immediately, every cent in politics needs to be accounted for. An absolute split between church and state, and while at it, tax churches heavily. Undo all gerrymandering, return taxation to how it was in 1940, updates for current times tomokug loop holes but going up to 100% on income after an x amount per year. Nobody should be able to be a billionaire, hell, nobody should be able to be a 100 millionaire. After a certain amount of wealth, that’s it, you can make more but it all goes to taxes.
Just a few things to start to
Yeah we have to outgrow the POV that says putting limits on wealth equals communism, or means no freedom. Democracy loses its meaning if kings can live inside it - which is what we get if wealth gives individuals more power than the rest of society. We’re on course back to the age of aristocrat landowners and tenant farmers. That’s not human progress, that’s degeneration. To me the slogan, “We won’t go back!” means a lot more than avoiding another Trump administration. It means recharting the course of our society away from a nobles vs peasants world and toward a world of true equality. It will take changes that are much more fundamental than imposing taxes on wealth. We have to de-legitimize extreme wealth and disable the huge leverage it gives a few people over the rest of us.
I fully agree with you but I’d do it through taxes. It’s not forbidden to be ultra wealthy, it’s just impossible to become that. Just after a certain about of either current wealth or income, income taxes go to 100% and at certain wealth levels, be it through owning buildings, yachts, or whatever, taxes will make sure you’ll have to sell off some of those assets until you’re within normal range. Nothing wrong with that in my book
Okay but you could also lock people in a room full of water and say you’re not forbidding breathing. Technically the truth, but not if we’re being honest. Using the law to make something impossible is forbidding it. Taxation doesn’t address the belief that the big bad gubmint is stealing something you earned. I think the underlying problem is way more complex to solve by just doing that. We have to get rid of the scarcity mentality, a survival trait that will take a long-term effort to eliminate. We’re probably talking multiple lifetimes.
Taxation isn’t theft, you get loads of things back. Roads, police, (in functional countries) healthcare, fire departments, military to protect against invaders… If you’re rich it’s easier to pay more, and you should
No arguments
My concern since late 2018 or so has been that America is effectively terminal, it’s just that we don’t know it yet. That we’ve passed some internal tipping point before waking up where even if we try to course correct, it’s too late to stop the decline. I’m not sure we can get the momentum anymore to fix it. Biden and even Kamala feel more like a temporary reprieve where we’ll only have enough power to stave off total collapse, but not enough to actually make any headway. Which is basically all Biden has been able to do.
That’s a legit worry, but since we don’t know where that tipping point is we don’t know if we’ve passed it or not. I think it’s just as legitimate to maintain hope, and here’s why. The repeating pattern we’ve seen is that when progressives start to institute policies to improve people’s lives, there’s always a lag before any tangible results. During the wait the pendulum shifts back to regressivism, Republicans get in control, and then proceed to take credit as things improve. They use this momentum for more elitist policies that reverse the gains, but the harm to the general public also has a lag and doesn’t become apparent until the pendulum has shifted back to progressives, who inherit a pile of shit to contend with.
But MAGA has fragmented the Republican party so hard, after he loses the election it will take the party years to recover, as the rats claw each other to pieces trying to get on top. Instead of the usual 4-8 years it could take 12-16 for conservatives to regroup. This will provide enough time for progressive policies to take root and bear fruit, and for progressives to actually get credit and build on them. It will be impossible for Republicans to convince even their own that things are bad enough to go back to retro policies. They’ll have to think of a new playbook.
I just think this whole period of time is going to move the goalposts to the left, America will still have a chance to resemble something like the ideal we were taught to expect.
I have a rewritten constitution in my profile, so nah, you ain’t ð only one bro
I have a rewritten constitution in my profile
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Has he not literally been doing that? I’ve been seeing articles about how much he looks up to Hitler. And he quotes him. He’s not being subtle, at least.
Videos talking about building a unified Reich, talk of immigrants polluting the blood of the nation, a lot of talk from his orbit about cultural Marxism, all the shared enemies (other than Israel, who are now the genocidal fascist ethnostate he aspires to), Nazis consistently turning out to support him… It’s straightforwardly Nazi bullshit. At least Hitler did prison time for the beer hall putsch - Jan 6? Fine, apparently.
In his first campaign it was said that the only book he kept and actually read was the English translation of Hitlers speeches. He has never really shied away from his adoration of the mustache man.
He said himself, in early 2016 I think, that he could shoot someone on 5th Avenue and he wouldn’t lose any votes.
But why is that actually? It baffles me.
Harris followers are better people with higher standards than Trump followers.
Fuck both those zionist bootlickers.
That said, I’m voting Harris this time, since the alternative isn’t an option, but, we still have to destroy this 2 party, oligarch ruled system and start from scratch. Enough is enough. Time to eat the rich.
These are good opinions, but can you say them two weeks from now? Drag doesn’t think they’re productive right now. They’ll be great in two weeks.
Feeling even an ounce more assured in getting away wið saying ð N-Word wiðout facing social consequences is a potent enough high for ðese slimeballs ðat ðey will literally hand him ðeir newborn child to rape on national television so long as he keeps ð supply coming.
It’s all propaganda. Biden gave the terrorist state of Isreal $18 Billion in American tax dollars this year alone. That’s $13 Billion more in a year than the average of $5billion per year for the last 75 years.
I don’t know wtf Dildo Tramp’s angle is here, but both parties are Zionist boot lickers who’ve continuously funded genocide. I don’t know why he would he try and make his opponents look less evil than he is, and also piss off his skinhead supporters.
Biden did? I thought Congress made decisions involving the purse?
It’s all propaganda. [5 paragraphs of propaganda]
Welp, you got that right
I presented facts, that’s all.
I challenge you to find any inaccurate information in my comments.
I said multiple times I’m voting Harris, but that’s not good enough for fascists and zionists, you need to re-write history to fit your narrative.
Some gifts just wrap themselves, don’t they?
I challenge you to find any inaccurate information in my comment.
Furthermore, elaborating why you think my fact based comment is propaganda, and not the corporate media story I’m commenting on, will look better for you than vague sentences referring to nothing.
If you’d like you tell the crowd how the current administration didn’t give Isreal about $18 Billion in tax payer money this year, we’re all ears.
Saying I’m voting Harris and telling others to do the same isn’t good enough for fascists is it? I also have to love the fact that she promised to keep funding genocide like her predecessors in both ruling parties?
Now we know where some of the fascist ideology in this sub is coming from. Exactly the controlled opposition i was referring to in another comment.
What exactly do you mean by “controlled opposition?” Be very clear on this.
Waiting for you to find any inaccurate information in my original comment and elaborating why you think my fact based comment is propaganda, and not the corporate media story I’m commenting on.
Immediately trying to change the subject and cherry pick other parts to argue about.
Sexism.
There is more to it than that. It definitely plays a part though.
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Biden gave the terrorist state of Isreal $18 Billion in American tax dollars this year alone. That’s $13 Billion more in a year than the average of $5billion per year to zionist terrorists for the last 75 years. (Including Trump administration)
Both sides are just different degrees of evil. One is more quiet about it, the other is overt.
That is what the monopolized 2 party system is for. To keep the same 2 evil groups in power indefinitely, while giving The People an illusion of choice. Both are owned by the same corporate interests and mega-rich.
The sooner people realize this, the sooner we can take real action that will make a lasting impact. There is no fixing this grossly corrupt, broken system from the inside and repeating the same bullshit every 4 years.
Calling dissenters fascists and Zionists violates rule 1. Please keep it civil.
Purple can disagree with your view, or your delivery of your view. That doesn’t make them s Zionist or fascist. They just means you’re failing to communicate. I’m communication, the onus less squarely on the sender.
This is a friendly warning.
I keep forgetting that there was never a female president before. I’m German and 16 years of chancellor Merkel are pretty fresh in my mind still. I was 11 when she got into office, kinda crazy to think about.
Tbf, ð role to role equivalent of ð chancellorship in ð US would be speaker of ð house, and we had Nancy Pelosi for almost just as long before she retired as well.
Only reason we don’t þink ðat way about her is because ð independent executive has inflicted upon us a grievous insistence on still existing.
Because Republicans have chosen Trump as the leader of their in-group, and everything they say and do is just sound bytes for getting him in power and abusing the out group, no matter how inconsistent, hypocritical, or false it is. They don’t actually think what they mock the left for is bad, but if they can use it to justify being against them, they’ll use it.
It’s actually worse than that IMO, they’ve imprinted on him as a surrogate for themselves. To attack, challenge or abandon him now would be to do that to themselves.
He definitely represents their animus. A projection of their perverse fantasy of disrupting the “corrupt government” sold to them by decades of hate radio.
If you ever listened to Rush Limbaugh you already know how these people think. They have been spoon fed lies their entire life.
Ahhh, a tale as old as Reagan…
As old as Nixon!
To think what things constituted as crimes and scandals back in the hay day of Nixon.
White American College Socialists have NO RIGHT to call ðemselves allies to my people while ðey fight like ðeir life depended on it to go unjudged for ðeir consistent and strident efforts to assist ð cause of ðis genocidal bastard who has now blasted out on live TV he is actively hindering ð effort to stop ð bleeding because Israel knows who will be more amicable to ðeir efforts to continue ð genocide.
Ðere is no excuse to hide behind any longer. To defend letting Trump win, be it by þird party voting, be it by not voting at all, be it by being ð ultimate accelerationist copium inhaler and voting Trump directly, is to actively sanction ð continued and accelerated genocide of ð Palestinian people, among countless oðers.
Vote for Harris, or be counted wið ð rest of ð collaborationists when ð people who actually need revolution rise up against your mess and begin instituting justice.
Ð cause of ð Palestinian people is singular, wherever in ð world we walk. To support ðis man and his allies among ð genociders is to march against our cause.
Our cause: Bedna N3aesh. We Want To Live.
Why write “the” as “ð” instead of “ðe”?
Maybe they pronounce it “ðə”, and they’re implying the schwa by default
Makes sense like how you would say “B makes the bə sound” implying schwa. If “Ð makes the ðə sound” already, it can be substituted.
Kinda, but also it’s a shorthand borrowed from similar spelling reforms, namely Shavian.
Borrowed from oðer writing reforms in which ð equivalent letter is also shorthanded for “the”
I have a whole load of ðem, but stick to just using ð and þ because ð prescriptivists would never shut up if I brought out ð whole bag of fun.
Please please please continue to not let anyone give you shit.
Seconded. I’ve considered trying this out myself.
You don’t feel like bringing a massively distracting schtick to a political post detracts from your point? Trump is openly rætfuçking the election, lóók at mï!
What fucking point? The whole personality is engagement farming. The title is “hey tankies, look at me”, the text is “everyone, I’m special”, it’s like the relaunch of the PenguiN OF d00m holds spork !!1
You get away from reddit, and they just remake it from first principles, I swear.
Capturing the lucrative Lemmy market, lol
A desire to be arbitrarily special
Stop trying to make Middle English happen.
Drag likes the middle English. Drag thinks you just hate fun.
I think the assumption that people who engage in unconventional means of expression are attention-seeking speaks to a common insecurity people have about receiving negative attention themselves. They’re reflecting the social pressure to conform that they already surrendered to.
You can strap a watermelon to your neck and call it whatever you want, but don’t expect others to mistake that for a personality.
Referring to yourself in the third person is cringe as fuck
Agreed, but I also kind of like it? It’s a fun cringe, if that’s a thing.
Drag isn’t referring to dragself in third person.
What do you call it then? Because that’s what’s happening here
Unless “drag” refers to someone/thing else entirely, which context heavily implies otherwise
It’s a person independent neopronoun. It’s inflected and conjugated the same way in first, second, and third person.
Bruh why removed by mod?
It’s a person independent neopronoun
Cute, but no it’s not
Its a nickname, your username shortened. That’s a proper noun whether you pretend to use it otherwise elsewhere or not, as context is important in communication
I do like the trolling effort though so keep on keeping on
while i appreciate your random internet stranger opinion, I fail to see how dragonfucker hurts or inconveniences any of us 🤷♀️
like yeah i get you dont like it but isnt your comment just a teeny bit more cringe as fuck?
The gut-reaction to call someone cringe is a natural expression of the human desire to conform to social norms. They are insecure about their own differences so they enforce conformity in others by trying to humiliate them, the way they have been. In a strange way they could see it as helping them to avoid further humiliation. They’re saying “cut it out” with an implied “or else people will not accept you.” It’s pure instinct.
No.
If someone is so socially inept and surrounded by equally socially inept people who don’t call out this behavior, then it’s possible they don’t have anyone who is part of society at large that would inform them of how their actions will be perceived by most members of the public.
I’m not commenting because it hurts me in any way. I’m commenting because this person is going to have a relatively difficult life socially if they continue with the behavior they currently exhibit.
They’ve been inconveniencing me by following me around and harassing be because they didn’t understand my simple point that ‘they’ applies to all humans.
They harassed me over calling Caillou ‘he.’ As in the cartoon toddler. Seriously.
They also object to people using the word ‘you’ to address them, which is fucking stupid.
You complete me.
NAY I SAY!
Based as hell.
A thorn in your side?
A thorn in my ash.
Surely we’ll sing
of no little thing
In Oak and ash and thorn
No. Language is dynamic by design. If þey/þem wish to be diacritical fluid, who are we to deny freedom of speech?
You’re right, it is. But language shifts in populations in ways that enhance communication. One person using letters that nobody else uses makes communication of ideas more difficult.
Not only that, but they’re only choosing to use some Middle English letters, and not any other rules of Middle English grammar or spelling.
They can use whatever language they want, but if it’s too much effort for people to understand, they’re more likely to be ignored.
Counterargument: middle English is based
You’re right, it is. But language shifts in populations in ways that enhance communication. One person using
letterspronouns that nobody else uses makes communication of ideas more difficult.Not only that, but they’re only choosing to use some
Middle English lettersenglish pronouns, and not any otherrules of Middle English grammar or spellingdifferent types of english pronouns.They can use whatever
languagepronouns they want, but if it’s too much effort for people to understand, they’re more likely to be ignored.Doesn’t sound so reasonable now, does it? If language that mildly inconveniences others is an acceptable way to express your gender identity, then why not also to express yourself creatively?
One, pronous are not letters, and letters are not pronouns. I’m not offending anyone’s gender by suggesting that using “þ” instead of “th” when trying to communicate in English on the internet in 2024 is counterproductive.
Two, gendered pronouns are some of the very oldest words in English, and they are used very regularly. They are engrained in native English speakers from birth. Each of us has a very long history of thinking in terms of these gendered pronouns, and I will grant that those who are younger have an easier time of making gender shifts with pronouns than those who are older.
There’s a reason people aren’t using xe/xey, for example. Somebody just made it up and said “use it.” Language doesn’t work by fiat (unless we’re talking about a colonizer eliminating indigenous languages by literal force). In terms of gender neutral pronouns, we already have the singular “they,” which has been in use to some degree since at least Early Modern English.
I can wholly respect and support someone’s gender and refuse to use nonsense words at the same time. Think about where gendered pronouns are used: when one person talks to a second person about a third person. If that third person is genderfluid in some way, I’m going to use “they” when referring to them (see what I did there?), because the second person is most likely to understand what I’m saying.
And before you get all fucking uppity again, I’ve had many lengthy conversations about this and so many other gender issues with my son, who is, among so many other things, trans.
I don’t even necessarily disagree that it’s counterproductive, I just don’t think it’s fair to attack someone for using esoteric or unconventional language. Yes, it inconveniences the listener - or in this case the reader - but in this context no one is being forced to engage with OP. By using some Old English letters OP is just having some innocent fun at no one’s expense, which doesn’t warrant the harsh response they’re receiving.
If you were talking to someone and they casually used xe/xey pronouns (or any neopronouns for that matter) to refer to a friend who isn’t there, would you go out of your way to lecture them about what an inconvenience it is to you to have to learn something new?
Please refer to point one of my previous comment.
can we just go back to Homestuck-esque typing quirks?
You aren’t owed prescriptive compliance just because you’re used to a worse system.
Let alone if you feel like going out of ð way to justify shitting on oðer people’s innocent fun.
Why are all thornies I ever saw complete nutjobs?
Because you’re on Lemmy and no one here seems to be, you included.
^ What did he mean by this?
Thornies is a pejorative I’ve never seen before, who does that refer to?
There’s unfortunately more people like this very guy
That didn’t really answer my question.
Why? This is their post and they wanna use middle English. It’s not that big a problem for anyone else.
Are you just worried that it’ll become a more common trend? I don’t think that’ll happen. It’s just gonna be like scrolling by a ich iel post every now and again.
It worked for “Tricky Dick”. He just didn’t feel the need to go blabbing it to everybody because back then you couldn’t get elected without at least pretending to have morals.
Worked for Reagan, too.
Is there a real citation for this? Something that’s not on Twitter? “The Daily Edge” doesn’t even have a website of their own.
I’m going to assume these daily conversations are still unproven, unless someone shows me a better citation.
it looks like he Said he spoke with him 2 days ago, and a couple times. besides that, the “daily” conversations are extrapolated from him having talked to mentioning out how a few times just this week and him saying that “regularly” talk, as far as I can tell, or it’s just referring to their near daily talks this week.
and the video does have him saying bibi calls him and talks to him a lot and maybe biden’s going to drop a bomb on Israel so they don’t talk to Biden.
People seem to also be ignoring that this entire conflict is a direct consequence of Trump assassinating Soleimani.
Yep there’s nothing that poor weak Biden or the ineffective dems could’ve done about it
Does the ceasefire involve taking over Gaza and turning it into Israeli settlements? Where would the people be moved this time? It was the last part of Palestine that did not get governed by Israel. Biden caused so much destruction to the Palestinian cause.
I can’t even understand what this is supposed to say.
Quoth the tankies, but Dems same tho
They’re using old English characters that used to mean “th”
Don’t worry, I’m sure in a few years he’ll be indicted, and then a few years after that there will be a trial, and then a few years after that he might be forced to grift his followers to pay a fine.
Technically I don’t even þink ðis would get a trial, since Israel, unlike Iran and ð Vietkong, are not enemies of ð US at ð time of ð act in question.
Meaning what would normally qualify for an open and shut case for treason doesn’t apply since ð aiding and abetting isn’t happening to a technically hostile power.
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Because (based on their post history) a few weeks back they had a crisis of identity and needed to do something - anything - to feel seen.
Sadly, they chose an annoying as fuck thing to harp on about in pursuit of being a special butterfly. Normally I’d just block and move on, but I want to observe this particular slow-motion tragedy as it unfolds.
Because they’re awesome
Shit, he probably won’t last long before senility or old age gets him. Then we have old president JD to look forward to
Senility and old age have already “gotten” him. He’s basically an animated carcass.