Mens boots, cargo shorts, overalls, and hats are a god damn vibe. Just the sheer fucking quality.
WHY CANT I HAVE THE LUXURY OF AQUIRING GOOD CARGO SHORTS!! WHYYYY
As a man I wish I had more options. the JCP Pennys near has like two and a half floors of womens clothes and small mens section that takes up the last half.
I’m a woman who buys my tshirts in the men’s section because all women’s shirts have become crop tops, or are too low cut to wear to work, or too tight fitting to be comfortable. It looks like we have a lot of options, but I think it’s more like we have a lot of non utilitarian options. Like a bunch of clothes you can’t do anything in. Like go hiking, or bend over to pick up something you dropped without exposing yourself.
I can get a men’s tshirt at target that fits exactly how I want it to(not too short, my boobs aren’t hanging out, not too baggy either) for about $8-$10. A women’s ‘tshirt’ will cost $15 plus and have all the issues I mentioned before.
But then again I guess the grass is always greener right?
My boots’ gender is work. I’m the lady in steel toe work boots regardless of where I am because it’s both an aesthetic and because they’re broken in
Womens clothes so often suck in terms of quality compared to men’s. My partner is nb, but fits women’s clothes best… They can’t find suits of anything like the kind of quality you can for men’s. Certainly not in more than a couple of styles.
If I buy a shirt and it disintegrates in a year I’ll never buy from that company again.
That’s every company though
Switched from using Old Spice Body Wash (RIP Krakengard) to Dove beauty bars and showers have become infinitely more pleasant. It feels good to apply, it smells like oatmeal and rice milk, and it always gets the stank off my nuts and ass the first time, unlike body wash.
Women’s razors are far superior to men’s razors
The best solution is the cheapest. Get a good quality safety razor and disposable double edged blades. Much less waste and the best shave.
This is true but it has a learning curve and you shouldn’t shave your face with these unless you’re willing to accept that you might accidentally get some small scars from nicks
If you’re getting scars from shaving nicks, you scar very easily or you shaved off a mole.
I scar very easily lol
The only scar I have in my face is when my brother closed a glass door on me, and I have been shaving with a safety razor for years now. Sure, it takes a bit to get used to, but that’s with anything new.
Have I nicked myself? Yes, once or twice, a few months in, when I got a bit too cavalier about shaving with it (it’s still a sharp blade). But it didn’t leave a scar.
I’ve been shaving with one for years and have never nicked myself more than I would have with a normal razor. It’s really nothing to be afraid of. The only way to really cut yourself would be to slide “with” the blade across your face, like you’re slicing. Otherwise it’s honestly harder to cut yourself compared to a cartridge razor.
I have never nicked myself with a cartridge razor whether I shave wet or dry, even with sloppy technique. I have 5 safety razors of varying design and thickness and about 100 brands of cream and blades, and I have to be careful with them or they leave gashes on my face. I have a very sharp chin with basically no body fat so that might contribute to it.
100 brands? One hundred ??
No, I’m being hyperbolic, about 15 sample packs in my cabinet right now and tried a few more previously. Feather are the best in my experience.
Do we have any wetshaving communities on Lemmy yet or are they still only on Reddit?
There is at least one. I’m not entirely sure how to link it, but it’s this one:
Sub.wetshaving.social
Haven’t seen any.
That’s what I thought. Wanted to check anyway. Guess I’ll check out some forums in the mean time.
enjoy.
If you need something to arouse you from your lethargy, try an old show called ‘Penny Dreadful.’ Eva Green and Timothy Dalton versus Dracula. Fun
Products for women also smells better
I hate overly perfumed stuff so I avoid those.
It depends, I find that many of the Men’s products can smell more “normal” and less rich.
But then there’s old spice – which I use daily but I don’t think is as pleasant as women’s deodorant scents (but generally work better in antiperspirant imo so it’s not worth thinking too much about.)
Next time you have the opportunity give Old Spice’s Wolfthorn scent a try and tell me it’s not just orange Starburst.
Says you. I, personally, really enjoy the smell of teak.
All my men’s products have completely artificial smells like “Cool Rush”.
One of these is real: “Jungle Road”, “Arctic Blast”, “Alpine Machete”, “Lost at Sea”, “Mayday Mayday”, “Why is nobody reading these and calling for help”
I think I have that last one as a body wash.
My vote goes to Arctic Blast
Me frequently accidentally buying women’s t-shirts cause I like those designs better.
I have a nice Pikachu hoodie which said it’s for women on the site I ordered it from but I didn’t care because it’s cute and I liked it. The only thing that’s mildly annoying is having to think about the sizing difference (which I guess is kind of the point of the separate sizing numbers, just to be that extra bit of annoying for people who want it anyway).
I hope you still rock em
As long as you buy the right size it shouldn’t be an issue, most clothing in standardized sizes aren’t much different between the genders besides the number being different (a men’s size M will be a women’s size S) so as long as you get the size right it’ll be fine.
I think you might have flipped your size comparison, but the concept holds.
Yeah I just realized my mistake of getting them backwards, I just fixed it. Glad I was still able to make the point even though I made an embarrassing mistake 😅
Me frequently accidentally finding myself in the men isles after finally finding a top with a high neckline.
Jokes on you, the buttons will be on the wrong side! Ahahahahaha
Edit: yes I know t-shirts don’t have buttons. Bad attempt at humour. Not deleting because I stand behind my mistakes.
Me buying women’s vitamins because they’re the only ones with iron at the local dollar store.
I did that with buying “one-a-day” vitamins for seniors because they were a quarter the price of standard men’s vitamins. I checked the stats and ingredients, they were about identical and from the same brand.
And remember, vitamins don’t expire!
They absolutely break down and lose potency, depending on storage conditions.
This isnt entirely related, but your comment made me think about the time I went into CVS to buy multivitamins and noticed all of the “men’s” included a picture of an orange while the “women’s” did not. All the other fruit pictured were the same between the two, but not oranges.
Yarr, that be because lads be worryin’ more about scurvy than lasses, matey!
Earlier this year a doctor advised us (male and female) to take prenatal vitamins, and yesterday a nutritionist told us the same. They really just have everything anybody needs, apparently.
I do this. You’d be shocked at the number of womens supplements that don’t have iron either.
There’s actually a really good reason for that. The body doesn’t have a good way to get rid of excess iron except by bleeding, so it’s fairly easy for someone without a period to get iron poisoning from vitamins with iron in them. Women’s vitamins assume the person taking them loses a significant quantity of blood every month. Not only should men not take them, women whose birth control eliminates their period completely shouldn’t take them either.
Is using an old picture of Elliot Page — and referencing women — considererd poor form? Honest question, I really don’t know the etiquette.
The meme isn’t really referencing the actor, but rather the character. Eliot might not be a woman, but the character is. When cis guys play female characters, we still refer to the character as female. I don’t see why it should be any different when a trans guy plays a female character.
Actually the character is canonically a trans man named Victor… This is from Umbrella Academy but before the character came out. You are correct in general respects just this example particularly is both of two men both canonically and non canonically so its actually kind of not super cool to use this particular image for this gag but largely forgivable if someone honestly was completely unaware of that context when making this meme which if you peaced out before the next season would be a very understandable mistake.
Oh, I didn’t even realize it was from umbrella academy, or that that show had any trans characters. Yeah, that context definitely changes things.
It was actually super cool, when Elliot came out he went to the showrunners to let them know they had nothing to fear, he wouldn’t change his appearance or anything because he was signed on for the show length.
And the show runners in an industry first established a new gold standard by telling him “Nah, how about we just make Vanya into Victor and make it canonical.” So they worked with Page giving him a lot of creative control over the character’s personal journey and showed probably the best depiction of early transition on tv.
Vanya did transition to Victor in the show.
It’s a meme from a movie. Should they ban this movie now and destroy all copies?
TV show, not movie, but no, definitely not saying we should ban anything.
Given that the series handled his transition fairly head on, pretty sure no one wants to destroy the older seasons.
My only question was that this meme is directly referring to the top character as a woman. Most times I see this meme it doesn’t have any references to gender (“morning shift going to work at 6am / night shift coming home at 6am,” or something like that).
The photo is of a woman because at the time of taking it the character (and the actor) was a woman. Transition shouldn’t retroactively change reality.
trans people are trans from birth. he was always trans, he just didn’t know it at that point. transitioning does not retroactively change reality, reality was always like that we just didn’t know. I think they handled his transition amazingly in the show, but your take is bad.
I think this depends how you perceive your pre-transition self. That advice is a good default though.
Personally I find myself switching between both perceptions of my past self, which is even more fucky since I’m closeted.
Gender is a fuck.
Identified* as a woman
That’s what being a woman means, no?
Sure, but I think the clarity is important, especially when others see dishonesty without it
Trans etiquette wise you aren’t correct. If someone transitions you apply current identity to all photos taken beforehand because the person is the same person. In the same way a picture of a pilot taken before they got their pilots licence is still a picture of a pilot your current understanding of a person updates to current and is retroactively applied.
Saying " this is so and so back when they were a woman" is considered rude since people generally look at their pre transition selves as not having a gender that aligns with their birth sex but rather a stage where they and other people around them did not know their current needs. People will generally not check you on it though if they think that your understanding is very basic. Proper nuance would say “Back when they identified as a woman” because then the implication is that the person didn’t nessisarily change, but the general understanding and social category did… but functionally speaking it’s close enough for someone who isn’t up on best practice.
I don’t think I follow that logic. If I was shown a photo of a baby (that eventually grows up to become a pilot) and asked if it was a photo of a pilot, I would say “no, it’s a photo of a baby, babies can’t be pilots”. Sure, it’s a photo of a baby that will become a pilot, but at that point, it’s just a baby, even though they are the same person.
“Back when they identified as a woman” is the same thing as “back when they were a woman”, because being a woman is merely an act of identifying as one, consciously or otherwise. There’s no universal truth for “being a woman”, gender is a human construct and therefore subjective, which means identifying as a woman is being a woman and vice-versa.
I mean you can get it or not it’s not a debate. Trans etiquette is something that a concensus of trans people request of other people and we set the standards based on how gender makes us feel, not how cis or even isolated trans individuals understand gender. This isn’t an exercise of strict logic. This is dealing with a culture of people dealing with a problem you don’t have and telling you where their pain points are. You don’t have to listen just like you don’t have to obey another culture’s etiquette when you are abroad… but expect to be treated as out to lunch or annoying to deal with. If I took you to meet other people in my community and you did that to one of their past photos I would be embarrassed on your behalf. If you did that to me I would probably not bring it up but internally wince because unless you were a friend I would treat you as a temporary inconvenience.
When someone says “I used to be a woman” my reaction is largely that is just incorrect. I never was a woman there was simply a stage of my life where I was afraid to be a man or unaware that other options were possible. In short - I was coerced. Other people identified me as a woman based on the sex characteristics I had and I identified as a woman because I did so out of fear of social reprisal or because I was kept in ignorance by dint of a society refusing to treat that knowledge as something I was allowed to have. Saying I “was a woman” would imply that I chose to do so freely, which I did not. Quite frankly when they look at a picture of me and read my past self as a woman it’s a reminder that to a lot of people that presentation and body type is all that they need to misgender me in a round about way. They are referring to a time when I was a prisoner to a system and identifying based on what they think I should be coded, not how I code myself. You think it’s fine to say I changed from woman to man because of social category and that it’s a construct - but to be honest that’s a pretty cis take. I react negatively to my SEX characteristics and use gender performance to stop people from bringing up my assumed sex characteristics into conversation. Language is a mirror through which we catch glimpses of ourselves. The mirror does me damage, I don’t linger in front of physical ones and I ask people not to use linguistic ones. When you call me “she” even in past tense you are referring to aspects of my body that I do not have the capacity to feel neutrally about.
I know a fair number of other trans folks who wish to expunge every pretransition photo from existence in part because they invite people to comment on this sort of temporal understanding of gender. If we could have you forget we were ever our birth sex we would. Instead most compromise by asking for a retroactive update.
Frankly, I don’t understand most of what you said, I must be lacking some context. But I do want to clarify one point, which will help me understand a lot of things better. You said:
Saying I “was a woman” would imply that I chose to do so freely, which I did not.
How does one actually identify if they are a “man” or a “woman”? What list of criteria makes one of a certain gender?
In the same way a picture of a pilot taken before they got their pilots licence is still a picture of a pilot
Except you don’t do that unless you’re talking about the person in the present context and comparing to the old one. Getting a pilots license or some other certification doesn’t make you always have had been that. A picture of a three year old playing with blocks is not a picture of a pilot, even if twenty years later they would get a pilot’s license. But it might be a picture of Bob, who later on would become a pilot.
Except they were never a woman, they just weren’t out
So general flow chart here starts with context. When an actor plays a character that character’s gender is considered before the actor.
In this case this picture is from Umbrella Academy but before the character comes out as a trans man. The role was specifically altered for Page by the show runners to make the role more comfortable for the actor (he offered to delay transition goals for the production but the production being incredibly awesome decided that this was something they could flex) so this meme is referencing one of the most recognizable trans actors in the world in a part where the character’s coming out was basically happening during Page’s transition.
Since the character is trans but this pic is before the transition it follows real world etiquette where pre transition photos should use current preferences of identity.
So the answer is from the trans community standpoint is that unless you jumped out of the series before that reveal and were fully unaware then yeah, making this meme with this pic with this specific context is pretty gauche but an easy mistake.
When it comes to cosmetics I thought it’s the other way around because men who will buy cosmetics are generally higher earners or something like that, so they’re generally willing to pay more.
I think this meme is talking about women using men’s razors and men using women hair products specifically ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
The only women’s bath product I really see a difference with is those jarred creams with abrasive material in them (like strawberry seeds or sugar; not micro plastic beads). They’re the only thing aside from Lava brand hand soap that actually exfoliates my skin so I don’t have weird hard spots of gunk in my pores along the outside of my thighs. My ass is so, so smooth now.
Can also vouch for shae butter + walnut shells. One of my friends makes them for fun and they leave you smooooth. Might not be good for pores though, especially for oily skinned folks. I’m basically 50% paper man, so I need all the moisture I can get.
Also gotta be careful with oils in the bathtub/shower. They leave the floor deadly slick.
50% paper 🤣 I understand this. My body is a desert.
I’m right there with you, but instead I use Castile soap and a exfoliating washcloth.
Cheaper? My ass.
Men’s depilatory cream costs around 30% more here, and it’s the same product, except with a slightly different fragrance.
Most of the time I buy women’s products because they are both cheaper and of higher quality.
This, in my case, is true for everything except razor blades.
I know a guy that used a women’s hygiene product once by mistake. Now he’s a she and doesn’t have a penis anymore. Make sure your family knows the dangers involved of using the incorrect gendered hygiene product. It’s like plugging a 120v appliance into the 240v outlet.
So that is how school transgender surgeries work.
I knew there had to be some kind of a catch.
Oh well, still worth it. :)
Doesn’t happen to everyone, I should know, I’ve done it plenty of times and I’m still not a girl.
I’m gonna just keep trying. One dice roll I’ll eventually reach critical success!
All my appliances are rated 120/240v. Does that mean I’m bi?
Probably more Non-binary my dude. Bi is more about what type of appliance voltage you’re attracted to rather than what you got in your house.
Believe it or not, straight to jail
Poor guy shaved his penis off 😔 My condolences and best wishes
Good point, razor blades for thicker hair makes a discernable difference. Luckily, double edged safety razor and a steel handle make this category practically free
nowI have very course facial hair and switching to women’s razors pretty much solved my post-shave irritation problem. In order of quality for my face it goes: men’s disposable razor << safty razor < women’s disposable razor.
And then there’s people buying the first thing they see just because it’s in the right section.
Me with just a bar of soap for my whole body.
Sometimes I buy womens soap because it doesn’t make me choke. If I can’t find soap that doesn’t smell like I’m swallowing razorblades then i’m going for the womans soap. Luckily I haven’t been faced with that situation recently.
I like the ones that are just tea tree or sandalwood scented, I don’t need to smell like I bathed an axe body spray, and it works for both genders. (As if we actually need a different body wash lol)
Right?? Like I only use the ““male”” products when I’m showering in the morning (which is rare), because I don’t want to be smelling extra hetero moose joose maxxlather in my beard as I’m trying to get all cozy wozy for beddy bye time.
So that’s my story about why I have a men’s face wash from two Christmases ago that is barely used.
Is this why I keep seeing shit covered tampons in the mens room? I get that it’s higher quality but come on.
And by higher quality they mean jammed full of things that don’t actually enhance the product but just act as fillers to make it seem fancy
And the nature of which has to change every 3 months so that a new and improved version can come out.
