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While this uses potassium chloride to cut down on sodium, does a mix of sodium chloride and MSG have the same effect? MSG has sodium, but it looks like not much per unit weight.
I’m guessing no? You’re probably still using around the same amount of sodium.
Some studies have shown that reducing sodium salt intake by replacing it with potassium can help reduce blood pressure, so that’s why this exists (or at least why it has some credibility).
Of course, I am not a doctor, so take this all with a grain of salt 😅.
Yeah, I’ve been looking into this for that exact reason. It does seem medically beneficial to replace an appreciable portion of your sodium with potassium, for those of us with high blood pressure.
However I don’t really see the point of this. Maybe there are some people who add a lot of salt to stuff, but I believe most of us consume excess sodium through processed and restaurant food. Added salt is not enough of overall sodium intake to matter. It’s much more important to watch the sodium content in your food choices, notably eat less processed food
If your doctor asks you to reduce salt intake to 50% and everything you eat you make yourself, the equation is simple - use this product.
If you get most of your salt intake from restaurant and processed foods… this will only make a minor improvement.
Or maybe it’s just me not using much added salt. I do use it when a recipe calls for it or it seems important (like with bread), but it takes several years to work through a canister of salt.
I’ve found that using good spices or fresh herbs make a huge difference over using more salt to perk up weak spices. And I’ve found that many cheap spices are mostly salt, but better spices are more of the intended flavor
I have tried to cut out processed food, partly for this reason. However even once a week of eating out or processed food (or soy sauce) totally dwarfs anything I intentionally add
Oh bread salt is totally for taste. The yeast doesn’t like it. Shit even the sugar in bread recipes isn’t important. If you have enough time all you really need to make bread is water, flour, and an oven. Of course said bread will taste like shit.
I think it’s funny how much they emphasize how important salt is then include Tuscan bread recipes. Not having salt changes how you proof it because it changes yeast activity, but you absolutely do not need it to make bread. Heat from the oven is just as fine for stopping over proofing.
The thing about these salt substitutes is that more studies are needed, just because there’s few of them. The evidence is very promising though, and people switching to these substitutes has been shown to distinctly lower blood pressure, and appears to make a difference for all-cause mortality.
Experts and industry leaders are looking into incorporating added potassium salt into their foods, so it’s probably only a matter of time before virtually everything that everyone eats will have lower sodium and higher potassium.
https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/HYPERTENSIONAHA.123.21343
50% less salt. They fill up half the can and sell it to you for the same price?
I don’t understand this post. Salt doesn’t mean sodium. NaCl and KCl are both salts, and this is a 50/50 blend with less sodium (Na) for the people who need/want that. Am I missing something?
Could also be amphetamine salts.
Now we’re cooking!
Oh thanks. My mom buys that and I never understood what is was 😂
The part you’re missing is that potassium chloride used to be used in the lethal injection. Somehow it still has a lower LD50 than sodium chloride.
How was that alluded to in the OP? Eating it isn’t the same as injecting it. It’s a normal ingredient in electrolyte drinks and rehydration salts. It’s also prescribed for hypokalemia.
Also yes hyperkalemia is really effective at killing as is hypernatremia. This is not only known but also evolved around. Your body works pretty hard to ensure you don’t ingest so much of either ion that you develop these conditions.
Well, let’s hope the doctor doesn’t prescribe enough, that their hypokalemia develops into hyperkalemia.
I would be surprised if water isn’t used in lethal injections.
Sir that’s too many facts for this joke.
No, no let’m cook. Everyone knows jokes are funnier after you explain them.
The point is that there is no joke in here to begin with
Right. I have difficulty suspending disbelief so sometimes jokes like this just confuse me.
I get that too sometimes.
So much worse for people with Potasium limitations? Like dialysis patients.
They could just get the normal salt, or no salt at all.
Yes, usually such people are advised by their doctors to avoid such ingredients.
I think you’re exactly right
What you’re missing is illiteracy.
50% table salt
50% bath salt
you’re not missing anything, you paid attention in chemistry.
The container is only half full.
Or is it half empty?
It’s half empty and half full, at the same time, in some quantum overlapped state. The actual state, either half empty or half full, collapses as soon as it’s open.
It’s twice as large as is necessary to contain this volume of product.
They have to put air in it so your salt isn’t crushed during shipping.
Bought salt flakes, received salt powder.
Sodium (Na): 25%
Chlorine (Cl): 25%
Nitrogen (N₂): 39%
Oxygen (O₂): 10.5%
Argon and other trace gases: 0.5%
Yeah but it says right on the front that it’s half potassium chloride and half sodium chloride.
It’d be funnier if the package was just half empty
Let me introduce you to the rapid ramen cooker, a microwaveable tray that claims to make ramen with only half the regular amount of sodium.
You know how the cooker enables this?
You add half the flavor packet.
Can’t make this shit up.
Nothing better than selling a single-purpose bit of plastic intended to go into the microwave and boil water that is functionally a replacement for a bowl that you presumably already have that expressly states that you can only use it for up to 5 years.
Yeah it’s an absolute travesty. At least it seems people have gone the opposite way and it looks like folks use it as a bowl, so there’s that.
I’ve always done this then, use the leftover flavor pack (salt) for seasoning a more homemade meal.
I have so many leftover packets because I always make mine with better than bullion, hoisin sauce, and chili flakes.
I moved to Germany and the only products I’ve requested from visitors are better than bouillon and molasses.
Better than bullion ftw.
Soooo good!
😂 absolute gold
It’d be illegal as as those statements are regulated to a standard serving. Except for net product amount.
Well I’m glad they used KCl, I thought this was going to be a container half-full of chlorine–concerning, if you intend to put it on your food.
I mean technically… At least half of the elemental construction of both of those ingredients is chlorine… So… Technically it is.
By weight or by molarity?
Half the sodium, double the chloride! Perfection 👌
Quadruple the reactivity!
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(I am not a chemist, and I am not your chemist. These statements should not be construed as chemistry advice.)
I can have my own chemist? I can keep them?
We have chemist at home
Chemist at home:
Should have posted this one
Chloride, not chlorine
I think they meant chlorine, as in Cl2 (g). Certainly not edible, thus the joke.
Chloride is the ionic form
Right, and that’s the form it’s in in both NaCl and KCl
Correct and that was the supposed joke. Instead of chloride, the anion, which would occur in some form of a salt, the container would contain half NaCl and the other half just chlorine gas, Cl2. Thereby making the statement (50% less sodium) technically true. (Disregard the pressure you would need to put the same molar amount of gas into the volume of a solid)
I’m proud to report that my chemistry is just barely good enough to follow this comment. 😂
It’s half potassium chloride, that can cause you heart issues too if you get to much of it.
True, but doctors will still recommend it because of you tell people they can’t have any seasoning they might just ignore you.
If you tell them they can have the other stuff, they’ll find it much easier to comply and it’s still much better.Stay hydrated and have good working kidneys and you should be fine. But that can be said for sodium chloride as well.
There is a risk if you have an extreme intake, but it’s going to be pretty hard to do that by seasoning your food with lite salt unless you’re doing something really extreme. Most people have a RDA of at least 2g of potassium, and I would hazard a guess that most people who are being told by their doctors to cut down on sodium intake probably aren’t getting a ton of potassium from what they’re eating.
For men the RDA is 3.4 g
Wikipedia quotes an LD50 of 2.6 g/kg in rats, so assuming (big assumption) that the figure is similar for humans, an average 80 kg human would need to consume 208 g of the stuff. Which is probably the whole container’s worth.
I’m sure you’d die of other problems from eating that much salt before you die of KCl poisoning.
Also depends on how that LD50 was measured. Oral lethal dose is a lot higher than intravenous.
Fun fact: KCl is used in lethal injections to stop the heart.
Yes, the method of intake is oral. The intravenous lethal dose is irrelevant in this conversation. Nobody is injecting salt in their veins.
Speak for yourself
Some of us like our blood to be seasoned!
is the sodium interchanged with sugar? i would be dissapointed if not, its the least they can do
It’s salt. It’s 100% salt. Half of it is sodium chloride and, to keep the label honest, the other half is potassium chloride.
i know. so potassium chloride only
As stated right there on the label, some of the NaCl has been replaced with
taster’s choiceKCl. So it was never pure sodium to begin with, due to all that pesky chlorine and now about half of the Na has been replaced with Potassium.It’s not the best choice, it’s Spacer’s Choice!
Imagine making pasta and salting the water with pure sodium. There’s a reason they don’t sell that in the supermarket.
Don’t tell me what I can and cannot do! I like my pasta with a little danger and a dash of kaboom!
Big badaboom!
Multi-pass
ba-da-boom
That’s how you become a meat popsicle.
I tried adding pure sodium to some soup once. It did not end well. 💣💥😬
Fyi it’s chloride, not chlorine, but otherwise spot on
So uh, what do you think the Cl in NaCl stands for?
I had to read this like 24 times to make sure I didn’t miss anything, but I’m 98% certain you’re correct. When referring to the individual components it should be chlorine not chloride. I’m not a chemical doctor, but this is my understanding.
Horrible at chemistry, but I’m 98% sure it is chloride - the chlorine is present as an anion, and as such is called chloride. Even if you refer to it as an individual component, you still observe Cl-, not Cl (or rather Cl2).
No, the element is chlorine. Chloride denotes a compound or molecule containing a chlorine ion, or a compound with a non-charged chlorine atom bonded.
Now I am confused. Mind bearing with me for a sec?
I was referring to the chlorine present in NaCl, that should in fact be chloride due to it’s anionic nature, should it not? I mean sure it’s pedantic, but I’d still like to know where I went wrong with that thought :D .
This whole thread is very pedantic but in chemistry when someone refers to chlorine, they are usually referring to Cl2. I think in IUPAC naming chloride is reserved for for ions. Like dichloromethane (IUPAC) and methylene chloride (also common name).
I have a phd in chemistry. You are correct. The whole thread is pedantic garbage.
ITT: people not getting the joke.
It’s a really stupid joke.
It’s not a good joke
“No you don’t get it. First, just pretend you think salt is 100% sodium”
I don’t need to pretend
You’re happy just being wrong? Alright then.
Sodium is not a salt.
We Dutch call it “Kalium zout” or Low Sodium Salt. The brand I buy is iodized and has 70% less natrium. And yeah, it is for health reasons, like heart condition, high blood pressure and other medical ailments, or people who want to eat less salt in their diets.
Anyway, what you are looking at is 100% salt and original op (the one on xitter) is an idiot.
For englishers: Kalium (K) is potassium and Natrium (Na) is sodium.
I always mix those up because we also use Kalij and Natrij for K and Na and potassium and sodium is just off. At least sodium I can get from sodium bicarbonate.
Yes you are absolutely right, thank you for elaboration.
Double the chloride. Yum
Technically true, proportionally.
Hey, we invented fat-free “butter” so why not
could be rock salt too, ie mix with other minerals
They can’t call it a salt substitute because it still has salt. Some people are told to cut down on salt, so would be attracted to something that tastes salty but has less salt in it. I get why it’s funny, but it seems reasonable to me.
It’s also great for those on keto diets since potassium can be difficult to get from that diet.
And then put twice the amount because it’s only half as salty. Still dumb imo.
It’s only good if you are deficient in potassium though, which I believe a lot of people are (although I don’t know how easily our body can get potassium from KCl)
KCl is 60% as salty as NaCl, which means lite salt is ~80% as salty as regular salt, so it should still result in less sodium being used overall. KCl also reduces blood pressure, acting like an opposite to NaCl, which raises the blood pressure. Lite salt is great for people with high blood pressure.
At least it doesn’t say organic… since salt is an inorganic compound and that’d be straight up silly.
What I’m wondering is does this salt have extra filler or is it made of something else that tastes salty without being actual salt? How does one make it have 50% less sodium without selling a smaller size container? Marketing is fucking ridiculous sometimes. Just say what’s in it!
It’s less sodium as in NaCl, and more potassium (why do English have so awful names for elements?) KCl. It’s still salt, and it taste similar to NaCl.
Normal table salt is ~99% NaCl
At least it doesn’t say organic… since salt is an inorganic compound and that’d be straight up silly.
Except that, in food, “organic” just means no pesticides or synthetic chemicals were used in making it.
No fillers, just two ingredients: iodized sodium and potassium chloride.
Isn’t that what all salt is? When they put stuff like that on a product like salt it starts to lose meaning and is clearly a marketing gimmick aimed at health conscious people.
I’m not okay with taking advantage of people who want to be healthy. As with everything marketing its about stretching the truth to outright lying and it seriously needs to be more regulated so words like organic actually mean something to consumers and we know what we’re buying. If they want to lable salt as organic, it should say “uses organic cornstarch as an anti-caking agent.” The cornstarch is organic, not the salt itself because it can’t be.
No, they replaced half of the sodium chloride with potassium chloride. It really is half salt. No one is being taken advantage of.
There are a lot of words on packaging that are unregulated, but “organic” isn’t one of them. If they use it, it has to mean what the FDA says it means, and that’s not the opposite of inorganic.
but is is asbestos free?
“Pure sodium”
OP is as deranged as Morton.
“Morton”
The ‘t’ is silent
Not at all the statement of a moron: in colloquial usage yeah, salt is sodium chloride, but in in a chemistry setting it is not just sodium chloride. In this case it probably has potassium chloride — a sodium-free salt.
Being somebody who has to watch their sodium intake due to heart health concerns I would say that Morton is not at all deranged in creating this especially considering I’ve got a container of it sitting on my spice rack right now.
Though it should be noted I do my best not to think about the fact that KCL is used in lethal injections. 😒 I just thank the gods I don’t have any ulcers.
It’s more the pure sodium part. Stop, drop, and roll would be a lot more important if it was pure sodium.
Yes LoL, I referenced that in a joke further down the post. 💥😂
Potassium is totally normal and required by the body. It’s actually hard to get the RDA of potassium.
It’s just that too much stops your heart.
