Recently changed from Lemmy.today to Lemmy.world because all the CCP communities like Hexbear blocked me so I can’t downvote and tell them off for promoting actual propaganda and misinformation.
Hexbear doesn’t even have down votes, you were doing nothing
I can influence the feeds they show up in by downvoting.
Related to several other replies: Why are you people looking at political discussions on the internet? Isn’t that quite depressing? I am subscribed to basically every popular community across instances excluding anything with the words “politics” and “news” in it’s name.
And I think some of you should try not subscribing to any news or politics as well, no matter your ideology. I’m starting to get concerned for some of the people on this platform.
Yes! Communism is rampant on there! Not that I’m against it, but they will mass downvote anyone who asks a question that’s against their views. Anyone else?
Isn’t that the basic political community/subreddit experience? If you go to truth social, I don’t think you’re gonna get many likes
Echo chambers, hmmmm
This, but
lemmy.worldinstead oflemmy.ml:)No point in participating in political discussions on LW, as mods just label anything they don’t like as misinformation/propaganda/etc. 🙃
I blocked the entire instance.
Much better experience.
Same here. Good riddance!
Interesting that you interpreted a dislike of something as “bursting their bubble”. Have you considered alternative explanations that are actually correct?
There are leftists of many stripes in the fediverse, if a discussion on Lemmy.ml ruffles ones feathers because of the predominant politics of their users then yes, it sounds like someone’s precious bubble was burst.
Eh… nah.
Lemmy.Ml admins are delicate little snowflakes that ban any deviation from their narrative of choice
Like popping their pimple
mllemmy
What’s a better way to make our little community bigger and better that having pesky antagonisms over every little difference we can find.
We better centralize over a single instance of people thinking exactly like we do.
Big /S by the way.
And I’m not even from .ml but come’on, we share more than we disagree on.
The .ml instance has deliberately overt bias and will literally ban you for not agreeing with their interpretation of Marxist-Leninist communism.
Bad faith “conversation” is their thing.
Many of their communities are becoming “the Donald” type situations.
You choose to socialize and mingle with who you want
I fully expect the MAGA mentality is fully transferable to any other far-left ideological group with a purity doctrine that is exclusive and abusive to outsiders.
This mentality is actually ideologically agnostic and will ride any wave it can to feed the emotional needs of the adherent.
How is that different from say news on .world?
They both ban on ideology.
The .ml instance has deliberately overt bias
My guy, you’re posting in a thread that’s just Overt Bias + Meme. I don’t think anyone here has room to talk
This is a meme.
I also don’t see anyone running around spouting misinformation here and deliberately misinterpreting history.
I also don’t see anyone get banned for their opinions here.
I got banned from a .ml meme/comic sub the other day for knowing more about world history than they did.
For calling the outright misinformation what it was and just generally not agreeing with them
Many .ml communities are becoming (or already are) their own little the_donald type communities.
ML is run by tankies, who historically infiltrate, corrupt, and eliminate anarchist projects with anti-socialist, anti-communist, and hierarchical methods and motivations. MLs are to Anarchists as a tapeworm is to a cow.
I disagree.
I’ve worked in actual political projects in the streets. And I haven’t found that.
You can be forever reading online why some people are the evil incarnated. But when you met and work with people for a common goal reality tend to be better.
Judging without truly knowing is one of the things we all should be striving to avoid. There are wonderful people everywhere.
I would recommend yo actually go participate in some common local political protects of you can find some. For me it was eye opening to see that despite one or two things we have common goals, objectives and very likewise minds.
I also refuse to participate in the endless split of the leftist space, and the never ending false divisions that only weaken us. So for a long time I’ve refused to identify with any particular leftist group. I am just for the common benefit of humandkind and will welcome anyone with the same goal.
You’re assuming a lot about me, typical of tankie apologia. You assert these things without evidence defying my own experience and the wisdom of history. Why should anyone trust you, and even if you’re not making it up, why should we ignore the weight of evidence that lies beyond your anecdotes?
You do you. I refuse to keep weakening our common political space for nothing. Because that’s what we’ll get if we keep dividing. Nothing.
You sound like an appeaser. If you want an imperfect ally, I recommend liberals. Less dishonest and not as likely to round you up in the middle of the night and put a bullet in your head. Liberals are also more numerous than tankies, less indoctrinated, and not usually as politically aware which makes them easier to educate. There’s no reason to side with tankies over liberals. Tankies also famously divide the left from liberals, probably because they realize if Anarchists can unite against their common enemy with liberals the tankies can’t leverage power away from the Anarchists.
Tankies aren’t even leftists, so don’t pretend that their spaces are leftist spaces.
Got any more names to call me? I’ve already got called tankie apologist, appeaser, anything else?. You have lots of names for those who think different than you. Also lots of hate, sorry for that.
You choose your allies. But don’t deny people working for the betterment of the working clase the name of leftists, please.
Edit: I just realized that by liberals you probably mean American liberals, democratic party and such?, not economic liberals? It can be confusing from people elsewhere. Anyway, american “liberals” let’s say the democratic party is cool in my book. Afaik also working for the betterment of their people. But not American so people over there may have a better understanding of those. Where I live the equivalent would probably be the socdems, which are of course allies of mine.
names to call me
I said what you sounded like and what your rhetoric was typical of, I didn’t call you any names. Here’s an actual name for you in particular: You are an asshole. You tried to call me out, assumed things of me that weren’t true, and now you’re pretending that I’m treating you unreasonably. Fuck all the way off.
I don’t know why you are using in person community praxis as a refutation of an online space being toxic
Real life isn’t online, the issue is an online space being shitty
I don’t find .ml specially toxic or shitty. I certainly hasn’t been called “asshole” by any .ml user or in any .ml space recently. Couldn’t say the same for other instances… There are wonderful people everywhere, and sadly bad people everywhere too. As far as .ml .world or any other of these big instances I don’t appreciate any more toxicity in one place or other.
And unfortunately lemmy.ml is getting more online traffic recently.
Is it? It looks pretty stable to me. Conversely, world, lemm.ee and shitjustworks are all experiencing slight but noticeable growth.
Or midwest.social, which for some reason I can’t comment or vote on.
I want to, but the last time I did I got a rightist.
I love .ml and it’s where I go when I’m in the right mood. Maybe it’s not for everyone, but I say meet .ml halfway.
Right you are, I am almost complete opposite end of political compass from .ml but still end up having interesting discussions and finding commonalities. To me .world is where the echo chamber dwelling momos live.
“Amazing discussion” 😳
The instance and it’s mods suck, but the people having discussions there come from all over. Federation n all…
Lemmy could really do with the ability to transfer an account to a new instance. The only reason I’m still on lemmy.world is because I can’t be bothered to set up an account on another instance that may be as insufferable.
As for communities, Lemmy just isn’t large enough to be picky. World is the biggest instance, but is still dead on anything that’s not either a Reddit clone or a popular community.
There is an export feature that will spit out a json file and you can import it to a new instance. It will carry over your subbed communities and blocked accounts. I use it to sync accounts on different instances (My instance can be slow sometimes)
… You’re on lemmy.world lol 😭
I set my feed for all instances to appear. Despite the reputation of lemmy.ml, it’s been gaining traction recently.
My brother in Mācuīltōchtl, lemmy.ml is run by the maintainers of Lemmy and was established years before Lemmy.World.
Lemmy.World has been gaining traction recently, not the other way around.
Now that you mentioned it, you could be right. I do know that many r/ChapoTrapHouse users from Reddit migrated to Lemmy after the subreddit got banned for incitement to violence. They may fled to lemmy.ml and I didn’t realise that the instance is much older.
It’s the original instance
Hexbear is where the chapotraphouse users largely have landed assuming they followed the direct line of succession. There probably is some contingent in Lemmy.ml, but not because it was the successor
The vegan community recommended people to move to Lemmy.ml or hexbear 🤦
The lemmy vegan community is toxic and is just self-selecting with the rest of the poison.
That’s great. Maybe it will open space for a good community to form.
I mean, most of .world is toxic, so…
With how .world mods treated them recently and how .world users interacted with that community generally, even .ml and hexbear look better. Not a great look for .world
It isn’t great for anybody. They did what they felt was right and they now have to live with the repercussions. I’m not saying what they did was right or wrong but I will say that emotions play a factor on both sides. Also there is the sense of belonging that comes with being part of a particular community. It leads people to gang up on one another. We end up seeing people take sides based on there experiences instead of facts. Also people tend to lack both sympathy and empathy when online.
As the old saying goes, two wrongs don’t make a right.
I’m less inclined to “both sides” this one. The ganging up included admins. I get they’re humans, but this seemed to me to be a pretty petty thing from people outside the community that got the admins involved in the first place and then the admin applied a double standard as a wave of other .world users continued to dogpile on. Emotions aren’t really an excuse for being a jerk. Most of the other reasons for being a jerk aren’t really great either.
