It’s fairly easy to see the problem here: The dude has way too many obligations.
Most people would be happy just to go to a beach and poke the sand with a stick. The privileges of “upper middle class” are the real schackels preventing people from going to the beach.
I would imagine that those starving bricklayers in Africa know the value of what they have, are grateful to have it, and would gladly share it with anybody they felt needed it more than them. Their life is probably difficult at times — whose isn’t? — but they have family, friends, and community who look out for them, because in the end they know they have nothing without each other.
BS. They literally risk their own and their children’s life to emigrate to somewhere where they have a fighting chance not to starve. Like crossing the Atlantic Ocean in dinghies
I have no doubt that there are those who wish to (and do) emigrate to other countries for more opportunities. I also have no doubt that there are those who stay and are happy living the lives they have, despite being impoverished. They are not mutually exclusive.
Are you thinking of Cuba?
I have read in the past that depression is very rare in Africa.
Look up Maslow’s Hierarchy.

Anon is enjoying every creature comfort the planet has to offer, but they are still missing the entire top half of this pyramid. And you need that to be happy.
What I’m doing wrong? I have the top two and 1/2, and I’m missing most of the bottom half? (I’m basically standing on a glass strand, which is constantly on verge of collapsing)
Why is this a screenshot?
Lemmy won’t let me hotlink images, and I couldn’t be bothered to save and then upload a file. :/
Hotlink format
Here’s how I put images in Lemmy comments:
- Right-click on the image and copy it
- Left-click on the text field
- Ctrl-V
- Bish bash bosh

Right-click on the image and copy it
VERY old browser habits are biting me here. I didn’t realize I could copy images directly to the clipboard - screenshot app does that, which is how we got here. Thank you.
thats fucking wild how we live in the same country and yet the top half of this pyramid is ALL i have
Man it’s wild that I have only really every had the top and the bottom of that pyramid and even then not always.
I wonder what it feels like to have a full sense of self, if anyone even actually has one.
Funny I used to have those things but then someone that acts like they are God fucked with my life.
my main problem is I compare life now to in the US in the 50’s through 90’s instead of the dark ages.
When I do that, I think about medicine in general and dentists in particular. Our age wins here. Though I don’t know, maybe regular folks in the US can’t afford medical and dental help, so it doesn’t matter to them.
Yeah I don’t see much change dental wise. Its again sorta gotten bad since 2000. Flouridation had a big effect but finding an independent dentist as a doctor whose main interest is the health of your teeth and mouth seems to be harder and harder. Now we have these corp things that feel shady as fuq. The US is a bit strange in that we had obamacare and like right after things got much better but then the mandate was kicked out and that upset the balance of pay with insurance companies and then we allow corps to own insurance and provider and pharmacy and hospitals. but then biden got the no surprise billing thing. its been a bit of ping pong but since the millenium. I mean technical advances always are better as time goes by but of course if they are not available or guaged so much they are not (something as basic as insulin) thats not really better.
Anon lives in a fantasy world.
Dating around. If that’s your thing and you’re attractive, I guess.
Advanced transportation. For those who can afford it. Also, visiting a place doesn’t mean you’ve truly experienced it.
House, car…
Having money has always been nice.
Live until 90. Microplastics and actual data doesn’t agree with you living to 90 anon, sorry.
Freedoms. Try being female, or black, or gay, or…Can relate. On our coast we have some of the most laid back village people in the world, yet here in the city with all our amenities we get upset with dumb things like people making noise in the tennis court across from our condo. Priorities are shot.
You need some sort of goal in life, and anon doesn’t sound like he has one. Most any positive goal will do, just get one
Yeah anon sounds like he’s fallen into the ‘what is masculinity’ trap of trying to fulfill all goals he’s told by other men to do or an idea of men and doesn’t understand why he himself is unfulfilled. He only knows the idea of man and never became his own friend enough to understand what might make his self more satisfied. This is why many if the happiest people have simple things they are happy about. They don’t fall for the money = happiness trap or other stupid roles that society brainwashes into people. The main complication is just getting comfortable enough with self to speak ‘hey maybe gardening/cooking is my thing’ or whatever. We’re taught to over complicate our happiness.
Yeah just get one of the life goal market, something is gonna make sense eventually right haha
You can always contribute to the great project of figuring things out.
Or find anyone you even slightly admire and help them do their thing.
Are you doing okay? You didn’t sound alright
Royalty had agency and power. Anon is just doing the movements, but can’t sculpt the future.
Also it’s a bit naive to think royalty didn’t have their fair share of depression and mental illness
Alienation from labor and isolation from your community cannot be solved through pleasure and consumption
… Bet.
It’s just chemistry, it barely has anything to do with what is actually going on in your life or how much you appreciate it.
Do you think environmental factors have no effect whatsoever?
They have an effect on the chemistry, but for the most part, if you are depressed, you will be depressed no matter how good of a day or month or year you have. Depression doesn’t happen because you did something to cause it. And it doesn’t stop from just having a good time.
Well, for a start, 90% of young men cant relate to the first one. That is a major and growing problem
What can we do to solve it?
Travel helps a lot. Gives perspective. Also there’s a whole ass planet of people that will boink you out there. No need to geographically lock your romantic life. Just ya know, don’t go to brothels and shit, that’s no bueno.
Brothels are fine. Treat the workers with respect like you would anywhere else and maybe it will teach former incels to unironically not put the pussy on a pedestal.
Yeah I got no issues with sex workers, and maybe it would work for incels, it’s just not my thing. I was more specifically saying I’m not advocating for sex tourism. Just go have a good time, eventually someone will want to see you naked.
Have guys who post dick picks add those pics to their dating profile
As someone who formerly suffered from that problem I think a big part of the issue is that the world is incredibly isolating and alienating, so you get stuck in your head and can’t just talk to people normally. We need to stop creating suburbs that act like prisons for developing minds. We need more third places. And we need to find some way of teaching people to have healthy relationship-building interactions with other people without making anyone feel unsafe.
diet of kings, but we are all alone now
so are kings btw
“it’s lonely on the top”, ever heard that?
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First thing to do: Do not go on social media. Second thing to to: Consume less news.
Do not thank me later as it would require you to browse social media.
Also, do whatever if you feel fine.
Productivity has risen as well. Anon likely has a mind-nunbing job that produces more economically in a year than a village or two of those ancestors would have.
Keynes famously predicted in 1930 that his grandchildren would only need a 15 hour workweek as technology would allow people to work less. Many others predicted similar throughout the 1900’s. When you look at a household perspective, Keynes was writing in a time when huge populations of women were expected not to work already.
What we see now is that it is incredibly rare for multi-adult households to have singular incomes. For the household, the 40 hour workweek might have actually grown to 80. Or more, as individuals engage in gig work or get 2nd or 3rd jobs. Plus forced overtime is becoming an issue, and of course wage theft.
Wages have stagnated while productivity has increased. Pensions (and unions) are gone (at least in the US). Inequality is constantly increasing - the rich use their power to get richer while the poor are stuck getting poorer.
Anon mentions his freedoms, but neglects to mention he probably spends 50 or more hours a week either working, on break from work, getting ready, commuting. He cannot criticize his employer publicly. An arrest and a night or two in jail could throw him into poverty. Unless, of course, he is rich enough that he doesn’t need to work, in which case simply tossing his name around with he police can often get him out of any trouble.
He mentions healthcare - US life expectancy not, and I do not believe has ever been, 90 years. Maybe for ultra-wealtjy women? Currently the average is 76 years for the whole country. But even then, women live longer than men, and the top-1% of income earners live almost 15 years longer than the bottom-1%. . So if anon is a low-income male, his life expectancy may be in his mid-60’s. Which is comparable to the average life expectancy of the late 1700’s- early 1900’s in Europe.
He has a lot of fancy toys at his disposal, but his life is still being consumed by the wealthy in power.
Nobody said he is US… we even have some job security here.
US life expectancy not, and I do not believe has ever been, 90 years.
Closer to 80, but even then that’s tilted by youth mortality and chronic health issues (and race and height and gender). But if you’re going strong after the age of 30, you’ve got much better odds of making it to 90 than an infant who hasn’t survived through some of the most dangerous years to be alive. If you’re old enough to be shitposting on 4chan, you’re probably doing well enough to at least think about making it that far.
Anon mentions his freedoms, but neglects to mention he probably spends 50 or more hours a week either working, on break from work, getting ready, commuting. He cannot criticize his employer publicly. An arrest and a night or two in jail could throw him into poverty. Unless, of course, he is rich enough that he doesn’t need to work, in which case simply tossing his name around with he police can often get him out of any trouble.
“Anon” is appropriate. It really is security through obscurity for a lot of Freedom Loving Americans. You’re not protected because you’ve got rights and freedoms. You’re protected because nobody considers your stupid shitposts to be worthy of their time. You’re non-threatening not free.
As soon as police or management or some national security goon thinks you’re a clear and present danger, the game changes significantly.
He has a lot of fancy toys at his disposal, but his life is still being consumed by the wealthy in power.
One might even argue the toys he has were created to distract and alienate him from his peers and neighbors.
Sure, that happened. Stupid greentext.











