• Angry_Autist (he/him)@lemmy.world
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      It’s not a direct criticism, it’s an inferrential exploration, meaning that there are many communities on lemmy.ml that are filled with similar comments, which it is.

      Terrible, shithole instance that needs to be forgotten from the internet.

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        it’s an inferrential exploration

        A what?

        there are many communities on lemmy.ml that are filled with similar comments

        Then why didn’t OP post a screenshot of one of them?

        Why resort to a strawman?

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          It’s really not that deep.

          I was going to post the screenshot anyways. And when I had to think of a title, I thought “huh, I’ve seen similar stuff on .ml, I’ll add that to make the title interesting”

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            I’ll add that to make the title interesting

            If you want to criticize what is said on Lemmy.ml, criticize something that is actually said on Lemmy.ml.

            Taking cheap shots at your political opponents (like comparing them to this obvious bait account from the cesspit that is Twitter) just makes your side look bad.

            It makes it look like you don’t have any real arguments.

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    Imagine looking at millions of people living in the relatively prosperous democracy of South Korea and believing that all these people belong as chattel slaves of a monarch who starves his people and throws entire families into concentration camps to die if one member dares to speak out. Every regime supported here is a fascist dictator.

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    • USA belongs to Great Britain
    • England and France belongs to the Roman empire
    • Poland belongs to Prussia
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    Its really funny when people act like Taiwan isn’t a part of China, and people who believe that it is are like radical left delusional tankies, when it is the official stance of the US government and the EU that Taiwan is a part of China. Like I have no horse in that race either way but jfc get your facts straight before clutching your pearls

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      The truth on the ground is that Taiwan is an independent country. Countryhood isn’t about recognition, it’s about autonomy. Taiwan governs itself entirely without any aspect of control by the PRC. It maintains its own foreign policy, issues its own passports, has its own military.

      Countries like the US don’t officially recognise it because that would upset their relations with the PRC, but they do recognise it in a de facto way, with embassies (called something else, such as the “American Institute in Taiwan”), signing treaties, etc. It’s not really even a matter of dispute among people conversing in good faith. Taiwan is an independent country. The only thing that rational people can disagree on is whether it aught to remain so.

      It’s not the only de facto country with poor recognition. Somaliland is one of the other clearest examples.

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      The fact is that there’s usually a difference between official stances and what the truth is or even what people actually believe. The official stance is also that OJ didn’t kill those people, for example.

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        That is an incredibly ironic statement. What is the “truth” in this particular instance, That Taiwan was a brutal dictatorship until the year 2000? That it was founded by mass murderer Chang Kai-Shek? Was it a part of China back then? When did it become not a part of China?

        I’m pretty sure that Taiwan doesn’t want to be a part of China, and I support the self actualization of people. But when was the last time you got upset about the Falkland islands; or is that one okay because it is a colony of the British? What about The US’s unconscionable interventions in Haiti? You’re either all in on self actualization, or you’re a stooge.

    • SRo@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Well Taiwan is China. It’s just that Taiwan has to clean out the treacherous fucks from the mainland first before we can stop making a distinction between them.

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        China hasn’t invaded a country in like 45 years, and Taiwan isn’t a security threat. So what’s your point?

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          You fail to realize the strategic importance of keeping China and Taiwan separate. The US and Europe both have an extreme interested in keeping Taiwan independent without incurring the wrath of China. Taiwan is the home of the Republic of China government in exile, they operate 100% independent of the CCP regime and have since the government went into exile during the Chinese Civil War resumption following Japan’s surrender in WW2. Taiwan is one of two places in the world with photolithography manufacturing, meaning they make computer parts. Arguably the most important modern manufacturing sector in the world. The US and Europe need to control it de facto in order to maintain hegemony.

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    Threads belongs to Mastodon

    West Virginia belongs to Virginia

    Antibiotics belong to the USA

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    My favorite brand of rage is the kind i feel when someone says a bunch of evil things and then follows it with “if you disagree, youre the evil one”

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      These countries that want to be free and independent should be owned by another country that wants to own them and if you disagree you support imperialism… mind-boggling

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        yeah its just

        like how do you argue against that? where do you even start?

        they hide meaning behind big words they dont understand and then invent their own meaning for the word until their argument sounds like word soup to anyone who knows what the words actually mean

        “the house is on fire, it should ALWAYS be on fire, and if you disagree then youre a dangerous pyromaniac and a phlebotomist”

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          Okay but phlebotomists are actually evil. It’s the nurses that keep them from going too far. This is why I always take a wooden stake to my blood draw appointments.

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          Start by asking them to define their terms. “Belongs”, “imperialism”, and “fascism” are the ones I’d like to see definitions for. Though I’ve gotta admit that I’m not very clear on “fascism” these days, which seems to be a term with many meanings, depending on who is using it.

          If someone’s argument depends on a lack of logic, getting them to elaborate on it can make that obvious.

          They’ll probably avoid the question though because they aren’t there in good faith.

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            Fascism in modern political discourse is whatever the speaker dislikes. Any relationship to fascism is wholely unnecessary. Calling people out on misuse of the term is fascism.

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      Reminds me of the Laserpig vs Lira(RIP in piss) “debate” where Lira demanded that Laserpig define evil for him.

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        I have no idea who these people are but i love that we have debates and philosophical discussions from people with pseudonyms and stage names

        it feels very ancient greek, with titles like Plato or Outis

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          Laserpig is a military history youtuber. He kinda got dragged into doing videos on the Russian invasion of Ukraine and is dealing with tankies/vatniks. His videos are well researched, meme filled and frequently address things he thinks are common misconceptions and why they’re so prevalent.

          Lira is was a tankie/vatnik who was producing pro-Russian propaganda from within Ukraine. He was deported once for it, snuck back in, and was arrested and died of pneumonia while in a Ukrainian holding cell. In case you might feel sorry for him, he had previously called Laserpig a f@g and Lira’s last words to Pig was wishing him death.

          I’m not really interested in linking Lira’s content, but here’s Laserpig’s thoughts on the “debate”. You can look up more Lira stuff on your own if you want.

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            i appreciate the summary but i had to google like half of these words and stumbled into a twitter post where someone was doing the whole “it is with a heavy heart blah blah blah gone before their time!” routine about Lira’s death

            and something about the tone of the message felt like when a fascist tries to sound like a real person (i lack the literary chops to explain this, so i hope you understand)

            So i looked up that user’s name and it was a far right podcaster

            I dont have a conclusion for this little anecdote, its just funny how someone can sound like a bootlicker even when saying non-boot-licky things

            They also used this person’s death as a soapbox to preach against the Joe Biden administration, which is a very righty thing to do (because they are incapable of human emotions like empathy)

          • vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works
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            And if ya want planes and ships we have Animarchy, now se just need someone to cover guns in the same way. Maybe Zach Hazard fills the role.

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    I can’t believe they would grandstand like that and leave out “America belongs to the natives”. Pretty weird.

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        It’s important to note when you block the instance, it disables reply notification for everyone from that instance.

        I blocked .ml months ago, and it took me a while to figure out why I’d see replies I didn’t know about.

        You can still see them and reply, you just don’t get notified if they reply again.