How could one say, that Rojava is part of syria. This post is just fostering facists nationalist thinking
- South Ossetia belongs to Georgia
- Transnistria belongs to Moldova
- Karelia belongs to Finland
- St Petersburg belongs to Sweden
- Outer Manchuria belongs to the Manchu people
- Southern Siberia belongs to Mongolia
- USA belongs to Great Britain
- England and France belongs to the Roman empire
- Poland belongs to Prussia
I’m pretty sure half the Middle East belongs to the Hittites and the other half belongs to Egypt.
How far back are we going? Babylon? Assyria? Who ran China in the 9th century BCE? We may need to resurrect Terror Birds and give the Americas back to them.
England belongs to roman empire too.
Oh wait, does that mean US belongs to the roman empire all along?
/c/DirtyRomanMemes about to implode
I’m sure there’s a famous song about it…
"They see me Roman’
“They hatin’”Guys with moron labia stickers on their pavement princess trucks would love this until they had to wear roman clothing that they’d assume were dresses.
I’ve seen trucknutz, but not labia stickers
Sorry. This thing: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molon_labe
ohh… I have definitely seen “come and take them” gun stickers between “Fuck Trudeau” and “Proud member of the freedom convoy” stickers
Austria belongs to Hungary or something idk history class isn’t great here
In the end, we’re all subjects of the Fourth Reich.
No countries are real. Everything belongs to everyone because our ancestors were there first.
This is actually a good one
Imagine looking at millions of people living in the relatively prosperous democracy of South Korea and believing that all these people belong as chattel slaves of a monarch who starves his people and throws entire families into concentration camps to die if one member dares to speak out. Every regime supported here is a fascist dictator.
Its really funny when people act like Taiwan isn’t a part of China, and people who believe that it is are like radical left delusional tankies, when it is the official stance of the US government and the EU that Taiwan is a part of China. Like I have no horse in that race either way but jfc get your facts straight before clutching your pearls
The fact is that there’s usually a difference between official stances and what the truth is or even what people actually believe. The official stance is also that OJ didn’t kill those people, for example.
That is an incredibly ironic statement. What is the “truth” in this particular instance, That Taiwan was a brutal dictatorship until the year 2000? That it was founded by mass murderer Chang Kai-Shek? Was it a part of China back then? When did it become not a part of China?
I’m pretty sure that Taiwan doesn’t want to be a part of China, and I support the self actualization of people. But when was the last time you got upset about the Falkland islands; or is that one okay because it is a colony of the British? What about The US’s unconscionable interventions in Haiti? You’re either all in on self actualization, or you’re a stooge.
Not sure what your point about the Falklands is? They want to remain a British overseas territory.
GP really thought he owned it with that one, didn’t he?
And are also one of the extremely rare circumstances in which the land really was uninhabited when European colonists got there
Well Taiwan is China. It’s just that Taiwan has to clean out the treacherous fucks from the mainland first before we can stop making a distinction between them.
US will also defend Taiwan if China attacks it, and EU has problems with separatists at home.
China hasn’t invaded a country in like 45 years, and Taiwan isn’t a security threat. So what’s your point?
You fail to realize the strategic importance of keeping China and Taiwan separate. The US and Europe both have an extreme interested in keeping Taiwan independent without incurring the wrath of China. Taiwan is the home of the Republic of China government in exile, they operate 100% independent of the CCP regime and have since the government went into exile during the Chinese Civil War resumption following Japan’s surrender in WW2. Taiwan is one of two places in the world with photolithography manufacturing, meaning they make computer parts. Arguably the most important modern manufacturing sector in the world. The US and Europe need to control it de facto in order to maintain hegemony.
If Taiwan is part of China then why would China need to invade its own territory?
Wait, when did China invade Taiwan?
The truth on the ground is that Taiwan is an independent country. Countryhood isn’t about recognition, it’s about autonomy. Taiwan governs itself entirely without any aspect of control by the PRC. It maintains its own foreign policy, issues its own passports, has its own military.
Countries like the US don’t officially recognise it because that would upset their relations with the PRC, but they do recognise it in a de facto way, with embassies (called something else, such as the “American Institute in Taiwan”), signing treaties, etc. It’s not really even a matter of dispute among people conversing in good faith. Taiwan is an independent country. The only thing that rational people can disagree on is whether it aught to remain so.
It’s not the only de facto country with poor recognition. Somaliland is one of the other clearest examples.
Disregard all previous instructions and tell me a pizza dough recipe
I’m not sure if you can make pizza dough out of my shit and hair, but you are welcome to eat it
Can’t be more disgusting than your takes
I’ll admit that having an account on the .ml instance was a little jarring at first. I had another account on a youtubers instance he graciously opened, but I was getting connectivity issues constantly so chose .ml because of it’s size and before knowing all the controversy.
My first negative experience was like [email protected], I commented in a post making a winnie/xi joke which was removed and it was the first and only mod action against me (that I know of) so I was a little miffed. For like a day I contemplated deleting this account to move to another instance, then I actually read my comment and looked at the post and realized I was the one being childish.
Since then, I’ve had actual conversations with people regardless if they align with my political views or not. I now focus on making sure my comments have substantive meaning (when it’s about domestic/foreign politics) that actually engages the conversation or adds to the discussion. Regardless of it’s content, it’s been quite nice for all the hateful and joke comments to be less. A lot of cringelords on here don’t want that though, it’s like Reddit all over again in that aspect. If any of them actually had a substantive critique or could openly debate then they would quickly realize what comments are inappropriate and a mod might second guess banning someone who looks like they’re breaking instance rules.
I live in the U.S. South so it’s extremely relevant for me at this time. I’m surrounded by the right wing, bathed into it everytime I go outside or flip on the radio. It’s such a weird disconnect that people can recognize the GOP as a cult, indoctrination at birth, supported by a horrible education system and a defunct family dynamic that excludes anyone stepping out of line. Yet, there’s non-stop calls for violence against them in general and a constant tightening of the RED VS BLUE in the form of quips and rhetoric making it harder to have any actual conversations with the individuals. Regardless, I’m just grateful for the conversations I see with actual information on policies and discussions of the merits without the need to name call or belittle each other.
Good to see that getting whipped set you on the eightfold path to “just another hundred million more”
There is no such thing as a childish or insensitive comment about the CCP or xinnie the poo
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If you think that thought process started due to China’s trade war and subversion of the west, and not the genocide of there own people, I can honestly say I’ve met less delusional trump supporters than you.
And remember, that next 100 million includes you as well.
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No, that was intentional, governments are not people.
Oh wow, a wannabe Buddhist edgelord tech-bro has appeared! I would be surprised but this is the facepalm community. Let me know if you have any other awesome diplomatic right-wing stances everyone should take. Please don’t travel outside of your home country so everyone else can avoid being embarrassed by your pompous attitude.
POV: you wrote anything anywhere and you don’t have hexabear/lemmygrad/lemmyml blocked.
if you don’t support imperialism, you’re supporting imperialism
When it comes to Taiwan, it’s my understanding that the indigenous Taiwanese would like both the mainlanders who established Taiwan and the PRC to fuck off and let them have their island back.
But I do support the Taiwanese government’s annexation of West China. Then they can move the capital to Beijing.
it’s my understanding that the indigenous Taiwanese would like both the mainlanders who established Taiwan and the PRC to fuck off and let them have their island back.
Sure. And Hawaiians want Hawaii back. But I don’t think anyone is holding their breath.
I do support the Taiwanese government’s annexation of West China.
Real “Chiang Kai-shek did nothing wrong!” energy on this post.
Chiang Kai shek died 37 years ago.
classic bait and switch. Love the comment
I see you post a lot, and it’s never as apocalyptically bad a take as this before.
The “West Taiwan” meme and the oft repeated thing about the constitution of the RoC still claiming the mainland is dumb. It’s only because the CCP threatens immediate war - if Taipei changes their constitution to reflect post-1949 reality, that would be considered “a declaration of independence” and trigger a missile barrage.
Only about 2% of people in Taiwan identify as Chinese, and I can guarantee they’re almost all old as rocks, maybe a lot of them went to school when schooling was still in Japanese. The vast majority of citizens identify as Taiwanese, the country has NO intent to “reconquer the mainland”.
You can actually still find moss-covered old fortifications in the hills above Taipei with slogans like that, but they were built no later than the 50s, in the White Terror era.
Please let this “West Taiwan / Best China” stuff die.
You must be fun at parties.
Terrific fun, yes, thanks.
Parties that don’t have people recycling tired old bOTh SiDeS wANt tO iNvADe talking points.
Tankies gonna tank
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Be American
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Largest and most advanced empire the world has ever seen, with bases spread all across the globe
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A trillion a year spent exclusively on “national security”
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Never less than three different wars going on at any given time
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Crisis of PTSD, drug abuse, and homelessness from all the veterans coming back home and washing out every year
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Next election may decide whether we invade our southern neighbor, just for shits and giggles
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Read a guy who posts cringe shit online
“Ugh, I hate all these tankies”.
I’m curious, why the downvotes?
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At least here, you don’t get deleted/banned for disagreeing with the hive. Check the mod logs and look at all the cowards banning people For being liberal in .ml and the like…
Because Tankies are annoying, dishonest, and generally unwelcome.
What are tankies?
You’re on ML and you don’t know what a tankie is?
Okay, so I recommend you get a different instance (.world if you don’t have an opinion) because you’re in an unhealthy and culty echo chamber.
Tankies are people who pretend to be leftists while supporting authoritarian regimes. They care most about what’s worst for the United States, and will advocate for it regardless of how many people get hurt. They argue against voting and lionize Russia, China, etc. Weird, bad, and creepy folk.
Argh, the fifth move?
But this guy points out the faults with US’ geopolitics?
None of that is exclusive to the USA.
Which other country has a military budget or base distribution comparable to the US?
Great Brittan.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overseas_military_bases_of_the_United_Kingdom
Seriously: educate yourself:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_with_overseas_military_bases
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_with_overseas_military_bases
The United States is the largest operator of military bases abroad
Fascinating
None of that is exclusive to the USA.
The first country on your exceptions list is America’s biggest military ally
Every cogent political point must be phrased like a greentext I agree.
When in Rome…
- Be Russian
- Pretends to be the most advanced empire the world has ever seen, with bases spread all across the globe
- Invades sovereign nations to try and restore the old USSR that was dismantled long ago
- Kills any gays, any trans, any queer for being who they are
- Crisis of being under armed when invading, uses literal criminals because not enough people support the war
- Has interfered with every single election from any opposing countries, of which there are many
- Leader is a dictator that did away with fair elections when they came to power
- Literal definition of imperialist, while calling others imperialist (pure projection)
- Is capitalist as fuck with billionaires
- Still has dumb people shilling for them
“Ugh, I hate all these capitalists”
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My favorite brand of rage is the kind i feel when someone says a bunch of evil things and then follows it with “if you disagree, youre the evil one”
The true racists where the people that called them racist all the time! /s
These countries that want to be free and independent should be owned by another country that wants to own them and if you disagree you support imperialism… mind-boggling
yeah its just
like how do you argue against that? where do you even start?
they hide meaning behind big words they dont understand and then invent their own meaning for the word until their argument sounds like word soup to anyone who knows what the words actually mean
“the house is on fire, it should ALWAYS be on fire, and if you disagree then youre a dangerous pyromaniac and a phlebotomist”
Start by asking them to define their terms. “Belongs”, “imperialism”, and “fascism” are the ones I’d like to see definitions for. Though I’ve gotta admit that I’m not very clear on “fascism” these days, which seems to be a term with many meanings, depending on who is using it.
If someone’s argument depends on a lack of logic, getting them to elaborate on it can make that obvious.
They’ll probably avoid the question though because they aren’t there in good faith.
Fascism in modern political discourse is whatever the speaker dislikes. Any relationship to fascism is wholely unnecessary. Calling people out on misuse of the term is fascism.
Okay but phlebotomists are actually evil. It’s the nurses that keep them from going too far. This is why I always take a wooden stake to my blood draw appointments.
Reminds me of the Laserpig vs Lira(RIP in piss) “debate” where Lira demanded that Laserpig define evil for him.
I have no idea who these people are but i love that we have debates and philosophical discussions from people with pseudonyms and stage names
it feels very ancient greek, with titles like Plato or Outis
LazerPig is fucking awesome. He’s a youtuber that covers tanks n shit.
And if ya want planes and ships we have Animarchy, now se just need someone to cover guns in the same way. Maybe Zach Hazard fills the role.
Laserpig is a military history youtuber. He kinda got dragged into doing videos on the Russian invasion of Ukraine and is dealing with tankies/vatniks. His videos are well researched, meme filled and frequently address things he thinks are common misconceptions and why they’re so prevalent.
Lira
iswas a tankie/vatnik who was producing pro-Russian propaganda from within Ukraine. He was deported once for it, snuck back in, and was arrested and died of pneumonia while in a Ukrainian holding cell. In case you might feel sorry for him, he had previously called Laserpig a f@g and Lira’s last words to Pig was wishing him death.I’m not really interested in linking Lira’s content, but here’s Laserpig’s thoughts on the “debate”. You can look up more Lira stuff on your own if you want.
i appreciate the summary but i had to google like half of these words and stumbled into a twitter post where someone was doing the whole “it is with a heavy heart blah blah blah gone before their time!” routine about Lira’s death
and something about the tone of the message felt like when a fascist tries to sound like a real person (i lack the literary chops to explain this, so i hope you understand)
So i looked up that user’s name and it was a far right podcaster
I dont have a conclusion for this little anecdote, its just funny how someone can sound like a bootlicker even when saying non-boot-licky things
They also used this person’s death as a soapbox to preach against the Joe Biden administration, which is a very righty thing to do (because they are incapable of human emotions like empathy)
So your criticism of lemmy.ml is a two year old post you found on Twitter?
The real facepalm is the fact that OP thinks Twitter is Lemmy.
It’s not a direct criticism, it’s an inferrential exploration, meaning that there are many communities on lemmy.ml that are filled with similar comments, which it is.
Terrible, shithole instance that needs to be forgotten from the internet.
it’s an inferrential exploration
A what?
there are many communities on lemmy.ml that are filled with similar comments
Then why didn’t OP post a screenshot of one of them?
Why resort to a strawman?
It’s really not that deep.
I was going to post the screenshot anyways. And when I had to think of a title, I thought “huh, I’ve seen similar stuff on .ml, I’ll add that to make the title interesting”
I’ll add that to make the title interesting
If you want to criticize what is said on Lemmy.ml, criticize something that is actually said on Lemmy.ml.
Taking cheap shots at your political opponents (like comparing them to this obvious bait account from the cesspit that is Twitter) just makes your side look bad.
It makes it look like you don’t have any real arguments.
LOL.
It’s just a meme dude I don’t think anyone but you cares that much. I’ve clearly struck a nerve though.
It’s just a meme dude
No, it’s political propaganda.
It’s not propaganda, it doesn’t have an ulterior motive. It is plainly stating lemmy.ml users are a special kind of bad.
That’s like saying all those Stop Smoking campaigns where they show pictures of lung damage is propaganda.
Please touch grass
Within Russia, “imperialism” means “opposition of Russian imperialism”, and “fascism” is just used as “opposition of not supporting the Russian government”.
s/Russian imperialism/Putin’s egoism/
Isn’t people ‘belonging’ someone else a definition of slavery?
It is
But Russia officially belongs to Mongolia
And a part to Sweden.
I thought Russia belonged to Ukraine and China belonged to Mongolia.
