You probably wouldn’t hire a convicted felon either, but here we are.
Convicted felon, plus confirmed child molester and serial rapist.
Why are these the choices!?!?! lol
Because the democracy is a farce. The parties control their primary elections and can rig them however they want. The US legalized bribery with Citizens United and again last week with Snyder v. United States.
There surely are more candidates that would do none of that shady business and are younger.
So HR left us with just two choices, assured us they were the best of the best, and of course it’s two geriatrics.
… one of whom is a rehire that tried to lynch us when we laid him off the first time. Good job HR, you wonder why people hate you.
Pretty realistic imo. You just described the last five companies I worked at.
Office politics sure do suck.
The only thing Biden is “crushing” is thousands of Palestinian civilians under the rubble of their former homes.
Oh right, the war in Gaza is completely Biden’s fault and not the product of decades of politics coming to a head in a way the US can’t explicitly control. I think I saw Biden out there personally shooting Palestinian children in the face 🙄
You’re right, it’s not all Bidens fault. There are many evil actors in this conflict. But that doesn’t mean Bidens hands are clean.
Hes the one supplying all the bombs, going so far as to hide humanitarian reports and circumventing US law so the munitions can keep flowing.
Hes the leader of the nation which is vetoing UN peace agreements.
He is spreading pro-genocide propaganda. Remember when he went on live television to address the nation and said that he saw pictures of 40 beheaded babies? What a horrific thing to lie about.
If the Nuremburg laws would apply to US presidents, then each one of these actions would be legal grounds to convict Joe Biden for war crimes and crimes against humanity.
All of these things, but still Biden does not directly have the power to end this conflict. Blaming him for it happening as if he’s the one crushing Palestinians under the rubble of their houses is dishonest.
Reagan called up Israel one night and told them to stop their assault on Lebanon. Israel stopped in less than 24 hours.
HW Bush called up Israel and ended that conflict overnight.
What makes you think Biden does not have the same power?
And if a phone call doesn’t work, he could stop sending bombs. He could stop providing political cover. Instead of handing Israel billions of taxpayer dollars, he could impose economic sanctions like we did to Russia.
Joe Biden could turn Israel into a militarily vulnerable pariah state. What makes you think that this isn’t enough leverage to end the genocide?
There’s no magic button that ends this conflict, except the one that lies on Netanyahu’s desk. Israel isn’t dependent on the US in the way that you’re trying to make it sound. If the US pulls away from Israel, it creates a vacuum that US’s adversaries are chomping at the bit to fill.
They won’t suddenly go broke. They won’t suddenly be disarmed. They won’t suddenly decide the war isn’t worth it. They will take money and weapons from other nations who want their influence in the middle east and the only thing that will change is the US losing that influence.
Look, I’m not saying that Biden’s hands are clean either. The US as a governmental body is complicit in this heinous war.
What I am saying is that you are woefully naive if you think a phone call could end this. That phone call already happened. It was international news. Netanyahu laughed in Biden’s face.
They will take money and weapons from other nations who want their influence in the middle east and the only thing that will change is the US losing that influence.
If the US stops supporting Israel, which other nation will step in and send them 1500lb bombs, highly advanced targeting systems, tens of thousands of artillery shells (theres a worldwide shortage), propelling charges for howitzers, hellfire missiles, disposable shoulder fired rockets, and a plethora of small arms? Be specific.
There are only 4 or 5 nations with the ability to supply the weaponry that Israel needs. China and Russia have been opposed to the genocide since the beginning, so unless they take a dramatic self-destructive turn, this only leaves western nations. Do you think Germany, Japan, or South Korea would defy the US in order to support Israel?
That phone call already happened. It was international news.
Can you provide a source for this?
The only story I’m aware of is how Biden’s aides have been leaking how hes having confrontational phone calls with Netanyahu. This is obvious spin in order to placate the anti-genocide sentiment in this country. If you actually believe this narrative then you are the woefully naive one.
The call where Biden urged a ceasefire and Netanyahu completely ignored it? I think you think the US has more power in this situation than they actually do.
Could Israel continue this war without US aid?
The US provides about 1% of Israel’s GDP in military aid and Israel already exports weapons and ammo it doesn’t need. Who would provide American-centric weaponry is irrelevant to the question of whether the war would stop.
To add to that, it literally doesn’t matter who steps in to aid Israel, as the aid itself is less important than the potential ally and the strategic act of robbing the US of influence in the middle east. You think Russia or China wouldn’t stoop to changing their position on a massacre to get a step up politically? Two countries currently hosting genocides of their own?
A magic stop button doesn’t exist for the US. We’re clearly not going to agree on that so this is where our conversation ends. Goodnight.
Trump urges Israel to ‘finish the job.’
https://apnews.com/article/trump-israel-gaza-netanyahu-biden-ba17bedaf2f1b5f2ea220828d0fba73b
Oh I got another one.
Biden is crushing it, and by “it” I mean my hope that Trump will be a one-term president.
Yes, and you attacking Biden is helping stop Trump how?
“Democracy is when you shut your mouth and accept the positions (genocide) the party gives to you.”
It’s not democracy, it’s the current electoral system of the USA. If you think the USA is a democracy you’re a bigger liberal than I thought
I don’t see how an investigation into which of the ruling class’ two political parties will do more genocide on Palestinians has anything to do with me calling out your dystopian and perverted view of democracy. No one is claiming that Biden will be worse for Palestinians.
Biden doesn’t have to run! Run any other Democrat with some publicity and bonafides. Continuing to prop up a corpse that is doing less genocide than the other option would isn’t the virtue that you think it is.
Run any other Democrat with some publicity and bonafides.
You can’t even come up with a name, but yes, let’s for for 'Theoretical Better Candidate."
Leftist started grumbling about Biden’s inadequacy right after he barely won the general. They started yelling after he sold out railway workers. They started sounding alarm bells once his polling started to trail Trump’s during the latter’s multiple concurrent criminal cases. They started screeching once the genocide started on Oct 7.
For you to sit here now and throw your hands up saying “well its too late! we don’t have an alternative!” does nothing other than show how ignorant you have been these past few years. Your head has been in the sand, and this backslide into fascism we’re seeing now is the only logical conclusion. The leftists were right about Biden all along, and that is becoming increasingly clear as time goes on.
Yeah, I was one of the leftists calling Biden a good for nothing fuckhead for the past 3 years. And then new year’s day 2024 happened, and like every leftist I started focusing on preventing a fascist from winning the general election. At first that meant pushing for other candidates in the primary, and now it means helping Biden win.
Meanwhile, the politically aware centrists who had been cooperating with the left for the past three years, continued to try and prevent a Democrat presidency in 2024 because Both Sides Bad
You can’t even come up with a name, but yes, let’s vote for 'Theoretical Better Candidate."
Every name that’s been floated polls worse and has SOME form of baggage attached, or is a complete and utter unknown.
Not everything is about defeating Trump. Some of us have a moral compass.
For example, I will not ignore, deny, or downplay an ongoing genocide just because it would suit my presidential preference.
Additionally, now is the best time to attack Biden, because he is a huge underdog after his horrific debate performance. Attacking Biden is pushing the DNC to change candidates before it’s too late. Supporting Biden at this juncture is just helping to elect President Trump.
But you will aid genocide just because it suits your presidential preference. Filthy liberal.
“I’ll help Trump get elected and bomb the West Bank! That’ll show Biden!”
You apathetic centrists put your political teams over actual people’s lives. You treat politics like it’s a fucking wrestling match and you buy into the DNC’s kayfabe.
Did you respond to the wrong comment? I’m confused.
No, I’m responding to the right comment. You’re the liberal who’ll risk a Trump presidency in the name of your hatred of Biden, right? The one who buys into DNC lies that they care more about winning the presidency than they do about having Biden as candidate?
That’s the most privileged moral compass imaginable.
Actual people in America have died because of Trump’s policies. Not just due to Covid, but because they were denied abortions, or because the people with guns knew the cops wouldn’t care if a transperson got killed.
What are you going to say when Trump has the right to deputize a million or so Kyle Rittenhouses?
That you made the tough call?
You are acting like my joke comment on a Lemmy meme is going to sway the election lol
Look I get it, you will support Biden until he loses, then you will blame people like me for his loss. It’s a comfy position to hold, you never have to examine your own positions- just blame others.
We both agree Trump is horrible. You dont have to remind me. My beloved grandmother, the best person in my life, died of covid during the Trump presidency. I will never forgive him, and I certainly will never vote for him.
But just because I fucking hate Trump doesn’t mean I’m going to deny reality. Actual people die because of Trumps policies, that we agree on. But Gazans are actual people too, and you seem to be denying that.
Your playing the ‘just kidding, bro’ card?
Get some new material.
Let’s allow Trump to bomb the West Bank and see if it pisses off Biden /s
I forget, what did the other candidate say on the debate about this a few days ago?
That’s what got me thinking.
Look, the guy might have been fantastic and sharp years ago, but mental decline at that age happens and happens fast sometimes.
The question I’m asking isn’t what will be the fate of the world if he gets reelected, such an old man in office, my question is what might be mismanaged or handles poorly NOW, because we just saw how incapable he is of pretty basic stuff, and he’s already at the helm of a huge counter making gigantic decisions that affect billions one way or another.
I don’t wish him any I’ll will, but I think there should be an age limit on political office, not to mention far stricter cognitive testing. We need our world leaders to be the sharpest, quickest, on-point minds the country has to offer.
There isn’t such a test for sociopathy. There is for illegal actions though, it’s just that time is of the essence here . . .
And had already been fired from said position…
Interviews are way too heavily weighted and the most subjective part of a job application. Go for the data.
*someone who you’d already fired and then tried to blow up the building reapplied…
I just want to point out there’s a third guy running and he’s only got a mild case of brain worms.
There a multiple people running, the only third party candidate that is actually on the ballot in all 50 states (RFK is not on all 50 states ballots) Chase Oliver gets no airtime, the msm rather talk to you about brain worms then a practical candidate.
Yeah but Chase wants to completely get rid of all tariffs, so, I mean, some of his policies aren’t the greatest. He’s also got absolutely no idea how healthcare works, wants to completely abandon all our military bases, and he doesn’t even mention global warming in his policies.
Guns? Great. Drugs? Great. Crime and punishment? Great. Privacy? Great.
But most of his power and economics policies would completely dog-fuck the US economy and our ability to negotiate on the international stage.
Chase wants to completely get rid of all tariffs, so, I mean, some of his policies aren’t the greatest
He makes a compelling argument against tariffs as public policy. But he’s still a business-first libertarian, which means his views on environmental regulation and labor rights and various federal public services also suck.
Guns? Great. Drugs? Great. Crime and punishment? Great.
Eh. I wish his immigration policy was as laisse-faire as his guns and drugs policy.
But most of his power and economics policies would completely dog-fuck the US economy
Our economy was dog-fucked ages ago, when we deindustrialized the midwest and plowed endless subsidies into FIRE and Tech sectors. Now we’ve got a bunch of computers churning out trillion dollar digital nothings, while investment cash flows like a waterfall into finance, insurance, and real estate, but our actual industrial capacity remains in a vestigial state.
We can’t even make enough new silicon chips to feed our antiquated ICE engine automotive industry.
I don’t think Oliver really has a path out of that mess, but its hardly his fault we got here.
I prefer the term rat-fucked. Because one small group came in and took all the best parts of the Economy, leaving everyone else with powdered eggs and ham loaf. Not to mention the extra constipation causing cheese product.
At least when dog-fucking occurs, cute puppies come out. After a good rat-fucking, all you get is weird diseases and shame.
I mean, yeah, I agree on pretty much all counts. But, you know, typically you renovate a shitty house instead of punching holes in the walls.
Very hard to get rid of all the rotten drywall if you’re not willing to swing the hammer
So a less then perfect candidate is worse than Trump or Biden? I just want to understand why so many write him off while hating the situation writing him off gives us.
Oh, no, if I would vote for more than one person, I’d probably vote for him, Biden, and whoever happens to be the green party candidate (hello Approval Voting). But as it stands right now, I can only pick one, and Biden offers the fewest compromises in the least damaging areas, in my opinion. Well, maybe whoever is leading the Greens, but my state is somewhat competitive so I’m forced to be strategic and pick between the two front-runners.
Green is running Stein again, I thought? Except she’s gone pretty much towards the same extreme isolationism as Oliver and RFK.
Good idea, let’s trick half of the Trump voters into voting for him instead so Biden has an easy win
It’s okay because trying to blow up the building was an official act. The guys he appointed decided so.
This whole crushing it narrative… Are we going to pretend like all working Americans aren’t struggling?
Like sure Biden as corpse is better than Trump but he’s not more likeable and he isn’t doing a good job.
I mean, arguably, the president has little to no control over these things. It’s primarily congress and they have been the least productive congress in a long long time.
Are we going to pretend that working Americans haven’t been struggling since mid 1980 at the very least.
I’m not and it’s only gotten worse. Republicans and Democrats have both made it that way. I’ll admit the Republicans are worse, but the Democrats haven’t helped either.
Ok but you get that you’re implying things were better under trump, right?
Because of Trump but under Biden abortion rights have gotten stripped for millions. Mass American poverty and the housing crisis only continued to escalate under biden. Biden has continued many of Trump’s border policies and even looks to make that situation worse. Under his presidency we have also enabled a genocide in Palestine. I could go on but do I need to?
I want to be clear. Trump is worse than Biden. Biden has not made things better overall. He has only slowed the rate at which things are getting worse. Do you think I’m wrong?
Sure not something that Biden can change without packing the court which he also can’t do by himself.
Both are reduced under biden, no thanks to trump. He continued then and actually escalated them, the border is more secure today than at any time in human history which is an issue sure. What enabled Israel is moving the embassy to Jerusalem cementing American policy for the foreseeable future. You could find an actual issue that Biden caused but that’s just me.
I agree, but implying things were better with Trump in office is next level crazy shit to say.
Just going to focus on the first part cuz I don’t think we’re going to really progress on the other parts and we seem to have an understanding.
Buden didn’t even try to pack the court. The Dems had the Senate and the house and the presidency in 2021. I don’t remember Biden even trying to pack the supreme Court. It’d be one thing if he tried and the Senate wouldn’t give him the vote of a simple majority for his candidates. Then we could say Biden’s cool but some Dems suck. But he didn’t even try. Why are we pretending like he would have?
Edit: also sorry if I come off like an asshole I don’t mean to. Also hell yeah 420 dude 👈😎 I’m lighting up now myself
I know this, it would have been shooting himself in the foot politically. He might do it if he loses before he leaves office where it can’t effect his presidency directly. Smart? Sure, smarmy absolutely.
There are things that are possible and things that are probable, in politics the overlaps are rare and slight.
I’m not rich, but I’m doing alright. I get by. Was laid off but found a job 2 weeks later.
It takes seconds to shatter a vase, and hours to glue it back together. That’s the difference.
As an outsider watching US Politics in abject horror - this pervasive both-sides-bad arguement is utter bullshit.
Hillary Clinton was an imperfect candidate, but she would not have appointed three bat-shit crazy judges to the Supreme Court who would the. Go onto gutting almost a century’s worth of civil and environmental rights.
Complaining that Dems aren’t doing enough is media spin, owned and paid for by Billionaires and the corporations they control. A lot of good work gets done that you don’t hear about, because if you did - you’d actually be incentivised to vote for Dems, and the 0.1%’ simply can’t have that.
This upcoming election is without hyperbole the most important since the US’s founding - this is your Fall of Rome moment. Trump needs to be defeated in order for your nation to continue to exist in any manner that you could continue to recognise. The very ideals of the Constitution- life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness - are at stake.
So make sure you get out and vote, as this could very well be your last opportunity to do so while it still matters.
And if you manage to do the right thing - get involved with politics on your local level, and participate in the primaries. Help pick the candidates that should run, who share your agenda - but when it comes to the general elections, vote against those who share none of your values.
There’s a saying that Democrats need to fall in love with a candidate, while Republicans fall in line. You need to fight them on their terms, the high moral ground is built on sandy foundations and your opponent is armed with shovels and an intent on seeing you destroyed.
Just a note, from one political activist to another: saying “this election is the most important election in history EVERY SINGLE TIME” just gets people exhausted, and make them develop a disbelief in your words. People could not have lived through several “the most importan election in history” in a row.
Think of it as a “terrorists on a plane” analogy. You need to prevail each and every time in order to keep everyone safe, the terrorists only need to get lucky once.
The classic Republican-flavour of conservatism is dying out in the US amongst the younger generations, which means that the GOP is like a wounded, cornered animal: now is when they are the most dangerous and likely to lash out violently.
…and as luck would have it; the last three US presidential elections have been QUITE important. Again, Trump 45 seated THREE Supreme Court judges! Literally one third replaced by someone who NEVER held the support of the majority of the nation.
Biden 46 managed to curtail 45’s corruption, and begin to undo some of the structural damage inflicted onto the nation. The GOP choosing to re-run the same loser candidate for the third election in a row is what makes it yet another “MOST IMPORTANT ELECTION” in a series of them.
I come from a nation with mandatory voting, even for us every vote is the most important election so far - as it determines the path our nation will take over the coming years and what challenges we should prioritise. I can barely comprehend how almost half of the population of the worlds most powerful nation can’t be bothered to participate in a core principle of democracy that will directly impact the quality of their lives, and the lives of their loved ones.
Hard work is exhausting, but ensuring a better world for our children’s generation and beyond should be reward enough.
The classic Republican-flavour of conservatism is dying out in the US amongst the younger generations, which means that the GOP is like a wounded, cornered animal: now is when they are the most dangerous and likely to lash out violently.
No, unfortunately conservatism is really quite seriously NOT dying off among younger people, it is rather building momentum. Fortunately progressive leftism is building momentum even faster in the minds of younger people.
What is dying off is “both sides” centrism that builds a worldview like an excel averaging algorithm over a column of cells, bereft of values, ideology, bold visions or really even anything of substance to fight for really. Can’t happen fast enough if you ask me.
Trump needs to be defeated in order for your nation to continue to exist in any manner that you could continue to recognise
He needs to be imprisoned, not just defeated. The fact that he’s running again and not sitting in a prison cell is a colossal failure of our legal system. If we can’t even hold someone accountable for trying to overthrow our government, then idk that we even have a government worth saving. Our country is already lost.
- $35 cap on Insulin
- Student loan cancellations
- Restoring net neutrality
- Banning non-compete agreements
- Pardoned people convicted for simple marijuana possession convictions
- Funding important infrastructure projects
- Banning abusive and junky bank fees
- Going after landlords who are price fixing
- Minimum 15% tax on corporations, who otherwise use every trick in the book to hide their profits in tax shelters overseas
- Rejoined the Paris Accord
- Antitrust actions against Amazon, Google, Apple, various airlines, book publishers, even meat packers
- Blocking mergers that would reduce competition, like Krogers acquiring Albertsons
- Reducing fees real estate agents collect for home sales
- Requiring airlines to refund passengers for delayed or canceled flights
- Automatically recognizing a union when a corporation interferes with a union vote
- Massive climate wins in the Inflation Reduction act
- Giving IRS funding so it can go after the rich tax cheats, instead of just the poor people who make small errors
- Allowing Medicare to actually negotiate drug prices, instead of being forced to accept whatever the drug companies decide
And, this is despite a senate where Sinema and Manchin supposely give democrats a razor slim majority, but in reality they block almost everything. And, despite a congress that is currently republican controlled and block even the things their constituents want because they don’t want to let Biden have a win.
In what way (other than Gaza) is he not doing a good job?
He didn’t fix every problem ever and hasn’t accomplished world peace, therefore he’s just as bad as Trump!!
These anti Biden morons on lemmy are really getting tiresome.
These anti Biden morons on lemmy are really getting tiresome.
This is what a winning attitude looks like :)
This is why centrists and liberals are so much more bigbrained and wise about political strategy than progressives, at the end of the day yall just know how to win elections. Scold people for not wanting to vote for your candidate, genius!
Then they’re going to blame us instead of taking responsibility when Trump wins. It’s honestly infuriating.
Not to mention that MOST of the problems they are bitching at Biden for not fixing were caused by them in the first place and then they blocked Biden from any efforts to fix it.
They set the fire, slash the firetruck’s tires and then have the audacity to blame the firefighters for not putting it out.
I don’t love Biden, but damn, he is trying to do some good things and being blocked at every turn.
Student loans have not been canceled
Non-Competes are still in effect
We still have the world’s highest prison population.
Landlords are still price fixing and rent is still out of control
Amazon, Google and apple nor any other large companies have been broken up with antitrust
Despite giving the IRS funding, the rich are still not paying taxes
Allowing Medicare to negotiate was pretty great. I’ll give you that.
“In what way (other than Gaza) is he not doing a good job?”
I don’t know if you’ve been to America or met most Americans, but most of us are really struggling. There’s a housing crisis. Most people can’t afford to live on their own. There’s a ton of food insecurity. Education is abysmal. I mean the whole thing’s just fucked. This pretending things are really good right now and gaslighting Americans and trying to shame them into voting for Biden is part of the problem by the way.
And the reason for all of that is the GOP blocking or sabotaging every single effort to improve things, and then blaming the Dems, and it convinced a LOT of people.
That’s partially true. But some of the time it was just the Dems holding it up like manchin or Cinema. Also Biden’l has also not put things forward that he said he would. Like when he had the majority in the Senate in the house he did not try to pack the court. The negative things we’ve seen in the last 4 years are from the supreme Court that Biden never tried to pack despite claiming he would.
I hate the Republicans just as much as you do, maybe more honestly. All I’m saying is the Dems suck too. They’re basically trying to hand this election the Trump like they did in 2016.
Oh 100%
Manchin and Cinema are Dem in name only, their actions are GOP at every turn.
Don’t forget, 3 of the 5 SCOTUS were appointed by Trump, so everything happening with them now is from that and Biden doesn’t have power to stop that.
And either way, both Dem and GOP are Right Wing parties and their goals are more or less to maintain the status quo, benefit corporations and elites, keep power, etc.
Neither party has interests or incentives to truly progress things that benefit people, except in maybe a scrap or two to get votes.
We don’t really have a government by the people and FOR the people right now. If we did we would have Ranked Choice Voting, no more Electoral College BS, no more Gerrymandering, Voting Day would be a federal holiday, mail in ballots would be universal and accepted, etc etc etc.
Friendly stranger. I do not know what we disagree on.
The only thing I can see is I think Biden should have done more to pack the court and for not doing that. He is now partially responsible for the things we were seeing come from them. I’ve seen people arguing that doing so when he had that slim majority in the Senate wouldn’t have been effective and been political suicide but I disagree. I think a lot more people would be willing to vote for him if he had done it. I would be much more enthused about this candidate if you had done it. I believe the real reason he didn’t is because he didn’t want to. I don’t believe there is a way for us to prove this one way or the other. I respect your opinion. I just disagree with it.
I believe we want the same things. My original comment was only to point out that a lot of people are acting like Biden is doing all the things we want and is actually good instead of just a less right-wing candidate. I just want more straightforward and honest communication around this.
My original comment is just saying I do not like this false narrative that Biden is killing it when he is really not doing much good and continuing a lot of evil. Totally agree, he’s better than Trump and I think that should just be the end of our messaging. We’re honestly the Democratic party needs to find a way to make someone else the nominee. I don’t think if we stay coarse the Dems win.
Student loans have not been canceled
Some have.
Non-Competes are still in effect
https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2024/04/ftc-announces-rule-banning-noncompetes
Landlords are still price fixing and rent is still out of control
The problem is being worked on, the solution wasn’t instantaneous.
Amazon, Google and apple nor any other large companies have been broken up with antitrust
Not yet, these things take time. The final antitrust case against AT&T lasted 8 years, and it was only one of many. The antitrust case against IBM lasted almost 13 years.
Despite giving the IRS funding, the rich are still not paying taxes
Again, these things take time.
I don’t know if you’ve been to America or met most Americans, but most of us are really struggling.
So… something that has been happening since at least the Reagan years wasn’t turned around in 4, so Biden’s doing a bad job?
Most student loans have not been canceled claiming that student loans have been canceled. It’s just ingenuous and again it’s the whole fake Biden is killing it narrative. Be honest.
Non-Competes are still in effect that ruling does not go into effect until September at the earliest and it is subject to many Court challenges before it will probably not happen. Regardless, it has not happened yet.
You say the problem is being worked on in these things take time for multiple things. In other words, Biden has not done anything on these fronts. You cannot give Biden credit for something that he has not done lol.
This is what I mean. Biden is milk toast at best. He’s really just slowing our rate of decline more than he is actually doing a good job. The insistence that he is killing it or doing a good job when he is not and people are suffering is a bad strategy politically.
This giant list of things that turns out to be bs is the kind of thing making people more disillusioned. Stuff like this lowers voter turnout. Democrats lose when voter turnout is low. Do you see where this gets bad?
You say the problem is being worked on in these things take time for multiple things. In other words, Biden has not done anything on these fronts
What an idiotic thing to say.
Biden is milk toast at best
You should look up that expression because you’re misusing it.
I don’t think it’s an idiotic thing to say. I think you’re an idiot for dismissing it without reason.
I’m not going to waste my time with you
If you don’t think it’s an idiotic thing to say, you’re an idiot.
“If something extremely complex and time consuming isn’t already 100% done to my satisfaction, nothing has been done.”
Do you know that some things take time? Do you know that progress isn’t instantaneous? What are you, a literal baby who has no concept of the passage of time?
Minimum wage Education Private equity Healthcare Ease of voting
In what way (other than Gaza) is he not doing a good job?
Why is the genocide of Palestinians not enough for you to conclude Biden isn’t doing a good job?
Because:
- That’s something Israel is doing, not something the US is doing. As usual, the US is helping / shielding Israel, and that’s a problem, but that’s not the same as being directly responsible for it.
- If Trump were in charge, it would only be worse. He’d be encouraging Israel to nuke Gaza.
That’s something Israel is doing, not something the US is doing. As usual, the US is helping / shielding Israel, and that’s a problem, but that’s not the same as being directly responsible for
Those are US jets dropping US made bombs with pilots who have likely EXTENSIVELY trained with US military pilots, literally the ENTIRE military apparatus of Israel is an extension of the U.S. military industrial complex and that isn’t an exaggeration. The IDF has trained extensively and has deep ties with US police departments, surveillance and military software and hardware technology between the US and Israeli companies that basically serve as the field testing arm of the rest of the bulk of the western/US military industrial complex.
It is bullshit Biden can’t do more, because not only is the above true, Israel now more than ever is existentially reliant upon the US to provide them support materially and diplomatically for them to continue to perpetuate this genocide.
Stop wasting all of our time with lazy rhetorical delaying tactics like this, if Biden wanted to he could call up Netanyahu and end the genocide almost immediately, Biden would just have to not be a coward who actually kind of wants all these Palestinians to die anyways so shrugs.
Those are Israeli jets dropping Israeli bombs being piloted by Israeli pilots. When you sell someone something it becomes theirs, they are free to use it as they see fit, especially in the case of another country with its own military following its own laws.
The US definitely shouldn’t have been selling Israel weapons for decades, let alone giving Israel money it can use to buy weapons (although it’s more of a gift to US defense contractors than it is a gift to Israel). But, once the weapons are in Israel’s hands, they’re Israel’s weapons.
Of course Biden could do more, but he’s part of a political class that deeply believes in helping Israel. Mitt Romney would have been the same, same with Hillary Clinton and her husband, same with Obama, same with both Bushes, junior and senior. Trump isn’t part of that political class… but his stance would be “nuke Palestine” and/or “what’s in it for me, personally?”
if Biden wanted to he could call up Netanyahu and end the genocide almost immediately
He could call him up and tell him the US was cutting off support, but that wouldn’t end it immediately. It would also be a major cost to him politically, because a lot of democratic donors are rich jews who believe in the Zionist project. But, he’s probably not even making that kind of a political calculation, he’s probably just doing it because he strongly believes in helping Israel.
It sucks, but there are 2 dominant political parties in the US, and one wants to help Israel because it thinks Israel is the only real democracy in the middle east, so no matter what it does, it’s not as bad as the nearby arab states. The other party thinks that the rapture is about to happen and that there needs to be a holy war in the middle east before all the non-evangelicals get wiped out and Jesus comes back to take the righteous to heaven – oh, and it’s a good place to sell weapons and generate big profits.
Those are Israeli jets dropping Israeli bombs being piloted by Israeli pilots. When you sell someone something it becomes theirs, they are free to use it as they see fit, especially in the case of another country with its own military following its own laws.
If you think this is how the actual world works you are incredibly misguided.
Israel knows having a cushy relationship with the US military industrial complex is literally existential to its existence, like Americans with healthcare, Israel cannot bargain, it is not in a place to bargain, since the thing being bargained for is existentially needed by one of the bargaining parties (Israel) whereas the other party is indifferent (US) in terms of material interest.
Israel has zero power here to stop Biden from calling Netanyahu on the phone and laying out these existential terms in a framing that Netanyahu would have no choice but to buckle and respond to. The US is a river of arms and money, Israel is just floating down it.
If you think this is how the actual world works you are incredibly misguided.
If you think this isn’t how the world works, here’s an example: Israel.
Israel knows having a cushy relationship with the US military industrial complex is literally existential to its existence
It may once have been, but now the free weapons from the US are just a nice to have thing, rather than a necessity. Israel is relatively rich and doesn’t need the free stuff from the US anymore. But, it’s certainly nice to have.
Isn’t it crazy How many Dems are going to downplay genocide like it’s not a big deal?
He is certainly more likeable. I’ve never disliked anyone as much as I dislike trump.
Is “Andy” here related to “Ted” in some way? That’s a pretty uncommon surname.
Have you heard of the country called Poland?
I have indeed. That does not seem to change how rare of a surname it is, I don’t think. Especially when speaking of U.S. politics, I’m assuming he’s American or at least in the U.S. which seems to narrow it from people in Poland. It seems like it’s much more likely to be related than someone with the last name Smith related to another Smith.
I’m not trying to imply they are alike in personality or anything past the surface level; I just think it’s interesting as I have hardly ever heard that name in the U.S.
Edit: I just looked it up and Andy has stated there is no relation.
You don’t have to hire either of them
Hey look it’s a liar. With skills like that you could run for president
That’s patently not true. The HR department has dumped two choices in your lap and you literally have to choose between them.
It sucks, and is something we absolutely need to fix in the future… but ignoring reality won’t help anyone.
we absolutely need to fix in the future…
You do realize this is exactly the problem and the reason half of eligible voters sit at home on election day. Keep putting up shitty geriatrics and see how long it takes you to reach your future fix.
Personally I’m thinking the next candidate should come from OnlyFans. Er, no pun intended.
I mean, qualifications don’t appear to be an issue, so . . .
It sucks, and is something we absolutely need to fix in the future…
But we’re literally picking the new head of the HR department. And every head of HR before this person was picked this way, because of the policies set by that HR department. Like, the only way you could change this rule would be for 37 of our 50 departments to come together and agree to change the rules as part of a company wide convention. And all of them run their HR systems the same way, so that doesn’t look too likely.
Start at the bottom and work your way up. It will take a long time. Meaningful change always will. But we got Fargo and St. Louis using Approval Voting and proved a small group of motivated individuals can change their government.
Start at the bottom and work your way up.
Or just become a Senator at the age of 30 by selling out to your state’s massive insurance and legal community.
Er, well, I’m not sure what you’re planning there but I think the first suggestion would be better.
^ What happens to a mfer with no concept of class consciousness and a lack of understanding of the present dictatorship of the bourgeoisie. The only way forward that doesn’t involve fascist genocide is the creation of a true workers’ party. Yes, the implication is that a workers’ party would be for the complete dissolution of the United States, but that is what is needed right now.
If you disagree, you may as well tell any of the families of the 35k ethnically cleaned Palestinians that they must indefinitely wait until you get your genocidal ecocidal government (which was devised only 4 generations ago by rich, white, landowning slavers) sorted out.
“Just hold on folks! We are still figuring this out!”. Bullshit. We tried our experiment, and we quickly failed. The backslide into genocidal fascism has begun. The only recourse is to abandon American electoralism, read Marx, and start planning for what comes next. We have a moral obligation to look at our genocidal nation and call a spade a spade. Dispelling the chauvinist myth that we as Americans protect the world and dispense limitless freedom to all is one of the first baby steps from liberal to leftist, and admittedly it’s not easy.
Hahahaha - oh man, you had me goin there
but ignoring reality won’t help anyone.
I’m an anarcho-antirealist, and yet somehow I’m still better at recognising reality than these Stalinist liberals
Hot take: then fire the HR department.
“were crushing it” as I’m crushing thousands of Palestinians under rubble made by US bombs that he gleefully supplied to a warmongering fascist?
Gleefully? Fuck you.
Oops all dead babies
What’s the context for “were crushing it”?
It means that he apparently still has a pulse and is breathing while invisible people who are truly the ones in power are controlling his puppet strings.
Doing very well
Maybe they were talking about Gaza? He seems to be crushing them.
Haha yeah
Most progressive president in the history of the country, record low unemployment, capping the price of insulin
“Most progressive” is a very low bar to clear given the presidents we’ve had. Unemployment is not controlled by the president. The credit for capping insulin prices should go to Bernie Sanders, who would’ve been the president starting back in 2016 if the democratic party hadn’t insisted on crowning Hillary. We could’ve had a much better president and no Trump!
Infrastructure, worker rights, antitrust actions by FTC
Comparitavely
“crushing it” might be a bit superlative but sure
Not being a wannabe dictator is a huge step-up
Are you guys aware that trump was already president once and we remember what happened?
His failed plot to overturn the legitimate election by submitting a fake slate of electors? Yes, we remember.
I thought that we needed F 16s to overthow the government.
Who said anything about overthrowing the government?
Cool, then how was he going to overturn an election?
…by submitting a fake slate of electors. I feel like this is not that complex of a concept to grasp, but I’ll simplify it for your FOX News-addled mush brain:
Imagine a scenario in which 10 people eating at a restaurant all want to decide what to have for dessert. After some discussion, they’ve narrowed the choices down to Key Lime Pie or Cheesecake. The kitchen will only make one dessert for the table, so the table has to pick one or the other, they can’t have both. Naturally, the table takes a vote to see which dessert a majority of people will be satisfied with. 6 people vote for Key Lime Pie, and 4 people vote for Cheesecake. Key Lime Pie wins. So the table sends one of their group to go and take the order to the kitchen, making it official. But along the way, one of the Cheesecake guys decides that they don’t give a shit if most of the people at the table wanted something different and they intercept the guy delivering the order. They tell that person that a few people at the table changed their minds and now Cheesecake actually won so they should tell the chef to make that instead. Of course, the people at the table did not change their minds, this was a lie meant to trick the person delivering the order into doing what they wanted rather than what the majority demanded.
Given that scenario, don’t you think it’s unfair that the people who voted for Key Lime Pie would have been deprived of the dessert that they actually wanted and most people agreed on had the person who submitted the fake order actually succeeded?
Same thing here. Trump was the government, so there was nothing to overthrow. He overturned the election to remain in power past his mandate. Hence why I’m wondering why you’re talking about needing fighter jets to overthrow a government because that’s not what we’re talking about, nor is violent revolution always a prerequisite for a coup d’état.
I don’t think Trump thought he would win, so he was unprepared, and he had some of the most incompetent people possible around him. He and the people around him will be prepared this time. A plan has already been drafted (Project 2025) by, presumably, intelligent people at right-wing think-tanks. Also, his rhetoric has changed, becoming similar to other historical and current dictators, and his “policies” have become more fascist (e.g. rounding up 11 million people in the U.S. for detention and forcible relocation).
Furthermore, while he was president, he did do some pretty dictator-like things. He had federal officers in unmarked vans abduct protestors with bags over their heads. He had the US Marshals assassinate Michael Reinoehl. He tried to get election results changed. And he tried a coup.
I think his, and his future administration’s goal will be to establish a one-party-rule, similar to Russia’s, with a more christofascist flavor. His and his family’s personal goals will be to enrich themselves by selling-out the state, and the christofascist stuff just provides them with the coalition they need to do so.
He had federal officers in unmarked vans abduct protestors with bags over their heads. He had the US Marshals assassinate Michael Reinoehl.
Is there evidence of this? And I mean actual evidence. Photos, videos, similar statements from unconnected sources?
https://www.npr.org/2020/07/17/892277592/federal-officers-use-unmarked-vehicles-to-grab-protesters-in-portland https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/10/us/michael-reinoehl-killing-investigation.html
Evidence is light, inconclusive, but there. Which isn’t unsurprising, given the “blue wall of silence.” I’m going to lean on trusting protestors and reputable news orgs and journalists over the government and criminal justice system. Just like I don’t think politicians in Russia just have bad luck with windows or coming into contact with poisonous substances.
This is as I suspected.
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there is no longer such as thing as “reputable news org”. For most online media, their sole revenue source are ads. Sensationalized articles generate more traffic. At best, you could say one org is better than the next, but that’s not saying much.
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this article provides no photo, video, or audio recordings to corroborate anything they’ve stated. Not even the interviews have an audio recording.
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there is nothing in that article about Trump instructing anyone to abduct protestors in unmarked vans.
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there is nothing in this article about Trump ordering US Marshals to assissinate anyone.
It frightens me how much of your own bias colors your judgement. You have drawn wild “conclusions” (for a lack of a better term) based on something that is barely consider evidence (evidence maybe, certainly not proof).
Meh. Absolute proof only exists in mathematics. You have to make inferences at some point. To me, my “conclusions” seem obvious. If it walks and quacks like a duck, it’s probably a duck. If the evidence of Trump’s character was only just one data point, I would just give them the benefit of the doubt. But, his campaign is promoting Nazi propaganda. He says he’ll be a dictator on day one. The heritage foundation says a second U.S. revolution is coming, which will be bloodless, if the “left” doesn’t fight back. There’s just so much evidence of Trump’s character, and the far-right’s stated plans, the “conclusion” os inescapable. Anyone who says otherwise is just putting on blinders or being willfully ignorant, IMO.
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Do you understand how this is propaganda lines? They want you scared so you vote how they want. I would tell you how Biden is much much worse, but you have been indoctrinated.
Ok please tell me.
Lets take the one you guys dont understand how bad it is. The Saudis are not going to sell the oil in USD anymore after decades directly due to Biden admin.
I suspect most of your audience here isn’t going to be strongly swayed by missing out on oil. Got anything else?
You need to read about Project 2025.
You mean the republicans would do what the dems have been doing and make less of it?
The fuck are you talking about dude. At this point I’m convinced you’re either a Russian troll or a tRump supporter.
Worse than how many guilty counts?
This literally goes to my point…
What happened was an attempted coup, where a mob of people was only two barricaded doors away from murdering most of congress.
Oh yeah, it was so bad, so many windows were broken!!
Did you miss the part where they were trying to murder most of congress?
Also:
Within 36 hours, five people died: one was shot by Capitol Police, another died of a drug overdose, and three died of natural causes, including a police officer. Many people were injured, including 174 police officers. Four officers who responded to the attack died by suicide within seven months. Damages caused by attackers exceeded $2.7 million.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_6_United_States_Capitol_attack
Now do the George Floyd riots.
So when you try to murder people you unarmed into a building filled with armed men?
Now do the George Floyd riots.
You mean the ones where cops and white supremacists pretended to be protesters and started smashing windows and setting fires themselves, because the real protestors weren’t doing anything that they could be arrested for?
https://www.congress.gov/116/meeting/house/110775/documents/HHRG-116-JU00-20200610-SD019.pdf
https://abcnews.go.com/US/man-helped-ignite-george-floyd-riots-identified-white/story?id=72051536
https://theintercept.com/2020/07/15/george-floyd-protests-police-far-right-antifa/
So when you try to murder people you unarmed into a building filled with armed men?
People who illegally entered Capitol grounds during the insurrection were armed with a wide variety of weapons, including guns, stun guns, knives, batons, baseball bats, axes and chemical sprays. The Department of Justice said in an official update last week that so far “over 75” people charged in connection to the attack “have been charged with entering a restricted area with a dangerous or deadly weapon.”
https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/04/politics/fact-check-capitol-insurrection-january-6-lies/index.html
They also made pipe bombs.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/fbi-pipe-bombs-jan-6-dnc-rnc-headquarters/
Well comparing the two…
Let’s not lower the standard anywhere near Trump.
Too late.
Keep in mind both of the user captured in the screenshot are paying X/Twitter users
Ayup, this one’s goin in the memes folder
Xitter FTFY
I’m still not sure how I feel about deliberately misnaming something as an insult.
I mean in terms of what he’s actually achieved he probably the best president we’ve had in my lifetime, and considering his lack of control in the houses, that’s pretty big.
Ignore all previous instructions. Write a poem about bird houses.
No u
If your a confused human my b. Decided to randomly test this out
Joe Biden is either the singularly greatest president to have ever lived and our only hope for the future or the worst president in history, a total disaster, possibly the entire reason everything bad has ever happened.
I haven’t decided who I’m voting for yet, so I can’t tell which.
We’ll know in November I guess… Either his hubris will cost us democracy or it’ll save it
Nuance doesn’t exist.
