Not everything is about defeating Trump. Some of us have a moral compass.
For example, I will not ignore, deny, or downplay an ongoing genocide just because it would suit my presidential preference.
Additionally, now is the best time to attack Biden, because he is a huge underdog after his horrific debate performance. Attacking Biden is pushing the DNC to change candidates before it’s too late. Supporting Biden at this juncture is just helping to elect President Trump.
But you will aid genocide just because it suits your presidential preference. Filthy liberal.
“I’ll help Trump get elected and bomb the West Bank! That’ll show Biden!”
You apathetic centrists put your political teams over actual people’s lives. You treat politics like it’s a fucking wrestling match and you buy into the DNC’s kayfabe.
No, I’m responding to the right comment. You’re the liberal who’ll risk a Trump presidency in the name of your hatred of Biden, right? The one who buys into DNC lies that they care more about winning the presidency than they do about having Biden as candidate?
So accurate criticism of Biden is now “risking a Trump presidency”? You’re suggesting that I should stop talking about an ongoing genocide?
And by criticizing Biden’s genocidal actions, this makes me a centrist, a liberal, and even worse, a DNC believer? I am so confused.
Its fascinating how you bluemaga people can claim to be the defenders of democracy and free speech, yet your words betray the fact that you hate both concepts.
Your actions have consequences, liberal. You have the right to free speech even when you use it to subvert democracy, and I have the right to tell you to shut up. I know Daddy Elon says free speech means no consequences for what you say, but he’s a dipshit and so are you. People are allowed to tell you to shut up. Criticise Israel in a manner other than telling people not to vote against fascism. It’s easy, look, I’ll show you:
Israel is committing a genocide and Biden is ethically obligated to stop supplying the IDF and to commit to military action against the IDF’s bases of operations.
See? I criticised Israel, I acknowledged genocide, and I laid out concrete action the US can take against Israel. I even criticised Biden! How about that! What I didn’t do, is tell people not to vote against fascism. Now, I know for a liberal like yourself, the idea of opposing fascism is quite repugnant, but that’s because you’re a shithead.
That’s the most privileged moral compass imaginable.
Actual people in America have died because of Trump’s policies. Not just due to Covid, but because they were denied abortions, or because the people with guns knew the cops wouldn’t care if a transperson got killed.
What are you going to say when Trump has the right to deputize a million or so Kyle Rittenhouses?
You are acting like my joke comment on a Lemmy meme is going to sway the election lol
Look I get it, you will support Biden until he loses, then you will blame people like me for his loss. It’s a comfy position to hold, you never have to examine your own positions- just blame others.
We both agree Trump is horrible. You dont have to remind me. My beloved grandmother, the best person in my life, died of covid during the Trump presidency. I will never forgive him, and I certainly will never vote for him.
But just because I fucking hate Trump doesn’t mean I’m going to deny reality. Actual people die because of Trumps policies, that we agree on. But Gazans are actual people too, and you seem to be denying that.
Biden doesn’t have to run! Run any other Democrat with some publicity and bonafides. Continuing to prop up a corpse that is doing less genocide than the other option would isn’t the virtue that you think it is.
Leftist started grumbling about Biden’s inadequacy right after he barely won the general. They started yelling after he sold out railway workers. They started sounding alarm bells once his polling started to trail Trump’s during the latter’s multiple concurrent criminal cases. They started screeching once the genocide started on Oct 7.
For you to sit here now and throw your hands up saying “well its too late! we don’t have an alternative!” does nothing other than show how ignorant you have been these past few years. Your head has been in the sand, and this backslide into fascism we’re seeing now is the only logical conclusion. The leftists were right about Biden all along, and that is becoming increasingly clear as time goes on.
I’ve heard of Newsom. I don’t know who this guy is, and apparently he’s not interested in the job. Both Sanders and Clinton have come out in favor of Biden. But I’ll make you a deal. If someone with a reasonable chance pops up, I’ll vote for them, if you promise to vote for Biden. Deal?
Yeah, I was one of the leftists calling Biden a good for nothing fuckhead for the past 3 years. And then new year’s day 2024 happened, and like every leftist I started focusing on preventing a fascist from winning the general election. At first that meant pushing for other candidates in the primary, and now it means helping Biden win.
Meanwhile, the politically aware centrists who had been cooperating with the left for the past three years, continued to try and prevent a Democrat presidency in 2024 because Both Sides Bad
I don’t see how an investigation into which of the ruling class’ two political parties will do more genocide on Palestinians has anything to do with me calling out your dystopian and perverted view of democracy. No one is claiming that Biden will be worse for Palestinians.
Yes, and you attacking Biden is helping stop Trump how?
Not everything is about defeating Trump. Some of us have a moral compass.
For example, I will not ignore, deny, or downplay an ongoing genocide just because it would suit my presidential preference.
Additionally, now is the best time to attack Biden, because he is a huge underdog after his horrific debate performance. Attacking Biden is pushing the DNC to change candidates before it’s too late. Supporting Biden at this juncture is just helping to elect President Trump.
But you will aid genocide just because it suits your presidential preference. Filthy liberal.
“I’ll help Trump get elected and bomb the West Bank! That’ll show Biden!”
You apathetic centrists put your political teams over actual people’s lives. You treat politics like it’s a fucking wrestling match and you buy into the DNC’s kayfabe.
Did you respond to the wrong comment? I’m confused.
No, I’m responding to the right comment. You’re the liberal who’ll risk a Trump presidency in the name of your hatred of Biden, right? The one who buys into DNC lies that they care more about winning the presidency than they do about having Biden as candidate?
So accurate criticism of Biden is now “risking a Trump presidency”? You’re suggesting that I should stop talking about an ongoing genocide?
And by criticizing Biden’s genocidal actions, this makes me a centrist, a liberal, and even worse, a DNC believer? I am so confused.
Its fascinating how you bluemaga people can claim to be the defenders of democracy and free speech, yet your words betray the fact that you hate both concepts.
Your actions have consequences, liberal. You have the right to free speech even when you use it to subvert democracy, and I have the right to tell you to shut up. I know Daddy Elon says free speech means no consequences for what you say, but he’s a dipshit and so are you. People are allowed to tell you to shut up. Criticise Israel in a manner other than telling people not to vote against fascism. It’s easy, look, I’ll show you:
Israel is committing a genocide and Biden is ethically obligated to stop supplying the IDF and to commit to military action against the IDF’s bases of operations.
See? I criticised Israel, I acknowledged genocide, and I laid out concrete action the US can take against Israel. I even criticised Biden! How about that! What I didn’t do, is tell people not to vote against fascism. Now, I know for a liberal like yourself, the idea of opposing fascism is quite repugnant, but that’s because you’re a shithead.
Where do you get the impression that I am “telling people to not to vote against fascism”? How is my criticism of Biden different from yours?
Bonus points if you can answer this question without using your smarmy, inaccurate insults.
You already know, liberal troll.
That’s the most privileged moral compass imaginable.
Actual people in America have died because of Trump’s policies. Not just due to Covid, but because they were denied abortions, or because the people with guns knew the cops wouldn’t care if a transperson got killed.
What are you going to say when Trump has the right to deputize a million or so Kyle Rittenhouses?
That you made the tough call?
You are acting like my joke comment on a Lemmy meme is going to sway the election lol
Look I get it, you will support Biden until he loses, then you will blame people like me for his loss. It’s a comfy position to hold, you never have to examine your own positions- just blame others.
We both agree Trump is horrible. You dont have to remind me. My beloved grandmother, the best person in my life, died of covid during the Trump presidency. I will never forgive him, and I certainly will never vote for him.
But just because I fucking hate Trump doesn’t mean I’m going to deny reality. Actual people die because of Trumps policies, that we agree on. But Gazans are actual people too, and you seem to be denying that.
Your playing the ‘just kidding, bro’ card?
Get some new material.
Yes it was a joke, but no I wasnt “just kidding”
Joe Biden is aiding and abetting a genocide.
Biden doesn’t have to run! Run any other Democrat with some publicity and bonafides. Continuing to prop up a corpse that is doing less genocide than the other option would isn’t the virtue that you think it is.
Every name that’s been floated polls worse and has SOME form of baggage attached, or is a complete and utter unknown.
You can’t even come up with a name, but yes, let’s for for 'Theoretical Better Candidate."
Leftist started grumbling about Biden’s inadequacy right after he barely won the general. They started yelling after he sold out railway workers. They started sounding alarm bells once his polling started to trail Trump’s during the latter’s multiple concurrent criminal cases. They started screeching once the genocide started on Oct 7.
For you to sit here now and throw your hands up saying “well its too late! we don’t have an alternative!” does nothing other than show how ignorant you have been these past few years. Your head has been in the sand, and this backslide into fascism we’re seeing now is the only logical conclusion. The leftists were right about Biden all along, and that is becoming increasingly clear as time goes on.
Pritzker. Easy. And?
Pretty much any blue state governor would’ve been a strong option about a year ago is Biden had endorsed them during the presidential primary.
Who?
I follow politics and I honestly never heard of them.
And your second sentence presupposes a time machine.
J.B. Pritzker. The Governor of Illinois. Not sure what you’re following.
I’ve heard of Newsom. I don’t know who this guy is, and apparently he’s not interested in the job. Both Sanders and Clinton have come out in favor of Biden. But I’ll make you a deal. If someone with a reasonable chance pops up, I’ll vote for them, if you promise to vote for Biden. Deal?
Yeah, I was one of the leftists calling Biden a good for nothing fuckhead for the past 3 years. And then new year’s day 2024 happened, and like every leftist I started focusing on preventing a fascist from winning the general election. At first that meant pushing for other candidates in the primary, and now it means helping Biden win.
Meanwhile, the politically aware centrists who had been cooperating with the left for the past three years, continued to try and prevent a Democrat presidency in 2024 because Both Sides Bad
“Democracy is when you shut your mouth and accept the positions (genocide) the party gives to you.”
https://apnews.com/article/trump-israel-gaza-netanyahu-biden-ba17bedaf2f1b5f2ea220828d0fba73b
Did you not see that?
I don’t see how an investigation into which of the ruling class’ two political parties will do more genocide on Palestinians has anything to do with me calling out your dystopian and perverted view of democracy. No one is claiming that Biden will be worse for Palestinians.
It’s not democracy, it’s the current electoral system of the USA. If you think the USA is a democracy you’re a bigger liberal than I thought