• magnetosphere@fedia.io
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    6 months ago

    Okay, you’ve hit on exactly what I don’t get.

    Most Federal elections aren’t about good vs. bad. They’re about choosing the lesser of two evils. That’s important to remember.

    As I see it, a vote for Biden OR Trump is a vote supporting genocide. On that one issue, sadly, there’s no real choice.

    However, voting for Trump also brings with it sexism, racism and an inevitable threat to democracy - in addition to genocide. Crucially, changing the system for the better would become MUCH harder under Trump. Choosing not to vote at all (or voting for a 3rd party candidate with no real chance of winning) helps Trump. It would be giving up on yourself, and society as a whole. It would be saying that things are too broken to be fixed, ever, so it’s okay to let future generations suffer.

    I don’t see the moral benefit in failing to choose the lesser of two evils.

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      6 months ago

      A system that only allows you to choose between two enthusiastic war criminals should be given up on. There is no saving or reforming such a system. An election boycott and riots in the street are a preferable choice as far as I’m concerned.

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          6 months ago

          I’m not doing shit about electoral reform. I would like to understand exactly the kind of optimism it takes to believe that meaningful electoral reform is a real possibility. Give me your realistic roadmap to a materially better system, accomplished through reforming the current one. I don’t expect a detailed plan, but what are the broad strokes?

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            6 months ago

            So you refuse to engage in the system and refuse to try to replace it? What the fuck are you doing here complaining? You have no right to complain, you’re literally doing nothing and watching the ship sink around you and shouting “hey! This sucks! I sure wish it was different!” How about you help fix it? Literally what are you doing like why would you do this you’re wasting everyone’s time

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              6 months ago

              What do you want me to say? I do what I can. I could tell you at least some of what I do, but I doubt it would satisfy you. Hell, tbh it doesn’t really satisfy me. Are you satisfied with what you are doing? I’m assuming you’re doing more than just guaranteeing Biden your vote and arguing with me. If I’m wasting anyone’s time it’s my own, you are free to scroll on.

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                6 months ago

                Arguing with strangers on the internet isn’t doing shit, mate. Tell us two things you do IRL besides that and maybe you won’t look like a neckbeard keyboard warrior.

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                  Oh shit. Oh fuck. I look like a neckbeard keyboard warrior to a stranger on the internet? But if I tell you two things I do IRL you’ll think I’m cool instead? Wait right here while I think of which two things I should tell you about.

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      6 months ago

      When full support for genocide is “the lesser of two evils” then you’ve already lost. It’s straight up evil.

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      6 months ago

      They’re about choosing the lesser of two evils. That’s important to remember.

      Which is why evil always wins.