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Hey look, future Geneva conventions!
I love that we as a species choose to focus on this instead of helping people…I mean, wait, this is for helping people…ermh, I think?
Ok but there was recently that one murderer guy who escaped from a Tennessee prison & was running free for awhile, I don’t know if they ever caught him, he disappeared from the news after the first couple days he was running free 🤷🏼♀️ Anyway this technology would be handy for catching escaped prisoners, because when murderers are in prison, the rest of us are safer.
They don’t advertise anything about rescue of anyone in the post, obvious use case is marathons and other sports.
For military uses it’s semi useless. Lidars are expensive, can be easily seen by intended targets for that reason. Actual combat single use drones are flying without any gps most of the time, you can easily achieve last meters where you can’t see or control a drone with raspberry pi and a camera (easy, cheap, requires little expertise, triggered by switch on a radio).
Seems pretty useful for assassinations to me. Unless you leave prints on the drone, I can’t imagine how you would get caught.
They can be useful, but you won’tbe able to buy hearrt of this hardware offline with cash, mentioned lidars for example. Also it needs to be big-ish, while training or recreational drones barely bigger than tiny whoop with small battery and <50 grams of explosive and some shrapnel can do the trick. They can be printed or made locally from sheets, motors are common, with correctly configured PIDs and other parameters they can be not very loud, flight controllers cost almost nothing and can be found locally, etc., etc.
As someone who has done real search and rescues a few times, y’all do stupid shit like this. Alzheimer patients wander about without pattern. Try tracking one of them in a forest. I got 2 of those tee shirts.
I’m always relieved to hear that all of the nefarious bullshit done in the world today is for my safety. /s
The slaughterbots will not be used to slaughter you, we promise.
The Death Ray is for peaceful purposes only.
I already see drones being used in broadcasts of ultraruns and triathlons. So at least that is a legitimate non authoritarian usage.
Everyone gonna need portable emp blaster to deal with this nightmare soon.
In the Ruso-Ukraine war they just use shotguns. It’s more resilient against RF shielding. And shotguns are a lot more available.
And I always thought my clay pigeon skills were useless since I don’t hunt. Ends up I was just training for a future horrific task!
ha shooting rocks and metal to solve issue with flying bot huh
That tracks
I always say that the issues with tech is nothing that can’t be solved with something as simple as a board with a nail in it. Just direct at Andresons egg dome
So when these drones start murdering civilians in war zones and ‘securitised’ zones who are hiding in the bushes from fascists and genociders these developers are going to be sent to jail for their share of those murders and crimes against humanity right? Right?..
Israel: GIMME GIMME GIMME!
I mean it would certainly be a better alternative to their current tactic of dropping a 2000lb bomb on the 14 floor block of flats they’re currently living in.
Their current tactic is much better at achieving their true objectives (of getting rid of all Palestinians) than a robot that pursues single individuals ever would, so from their point of view the latter isn’t at all an alternative for the former.
They just stop the deliveries of food and water, no need to overcomplicate things.
Every single piece of drone research I see makes me want to scream in someone’s face. I don’t believe there is a single drop of research that won’t be turned into a tool for oppression within my lifetime.
Drones are a result of DARPA partnerships. Almost every new or exotic technology is a result of DARPA’s selection of drones as a focus. LiPo, carbon fiber, even hydrogen combustion, and neural nets. They are all intentional precursor technologies for better drones.
What about a tool for resistance?
Oh you think oppressed people are going to have drone and chip factories available?
Look at Ukraine
That’s open warfare, so they’re being supplied as weapons of war specifically because Ukraine has international support (the hottest drone testing and advertising ground right now). Imagine if Russia, or any other country, wanted to use drones on their own people. It would be very hard to stop them.
They started with dji drones (and still use them for things like scouting).
They are at the mercy of everyone and lucky that China sells to them
You underestimate how much they produce themselves.
I hope so! Got any insights? Articles or somethjng? I’m highly interested
Not at the moment, but a few weeks (months?) ago there was an announcement of a collaboration with the Germans and they showed a factory (subterranean) where they manufacture the things. Look for fp1, fp2 and fp5, something should pop up.
EDIT: Ukraine was one of the biggest military manufacturers in the Soviet union, Russia was unable to keep their carriers on their own (made in Ukraine) for instance.
I already decided to off myself if things get too hopeless so eh, they can have their hellscape.
I already see the 7-4 thing as bullshit.
Same, we got about 5 years tops.
Maybe go bother a drone factory on your way out, in Minecraft
I already decided to off myself if things get too hopeless
It’s vital that we all keep this option on the table in these troubling times
In fairness, literally anything can be turned into a tool for oppression.
No need to be fair. The more sophisticated the technology, the more it’s likely to be used by the man instead of plucky upstarts, rebels, or terrorists.
Especially tools developed specifically for oppression!
It’s like one of those technologies that you can’t ethically develop until the threat of fascism is rooted out.
The threat of fascism can’t be rooted out. It can just be made more and more unlikely/unattractive
Yah it’s part of human nature I’m realising. But maybe some trick like how socialised dentistry makes cavities a non-issue so candy isn’t that harmful
I have socialized healthcare and really bad teeth and let me tell you it’s still a huge issue 😩
This is gonna be a nightmare for cybersecurity. These things are gonna be piss easy to hack.
Now we just put a Claude on it, and tell it to help us with a videogame where everyone richer than 80 million is bringing down our score.
Give it some explosives, and wish it a happy hunting.
EDIT: Roughly 150,000 to 160,000 people worldwide have a net worth above $80 million.
ah, interesting. That is about roughly the same as a small wave of Russians attacking Ukraine right now.
Wow, that’s almost as many people as are buried under the rubble of Gaza
90% of these things are gonna be left on the default password (admin1234)
That’s super insecure. We need something better, ideally something that would change every day. Almost like today’s date, no one would ever figure that one out.
That sounds like a lot of work, let’s just make it 4 and call it a day.
also, “mapping and obstacle-avoidance AI entirely on chip” is all pure marketing built on top of the current LLM hype, it’s not remotely impressive anymore for a high end university. every autonomous drone (and your roomba) already does all of that. they didn’t develop something novel.
unless he meant that perdue actually built a chip specifically to do it with no support hardware which i doubt, since everything needed for this can be built with fairly cheap off the shelf components.
also, i googled it. they did not build their own silicon. several articles call it “from scratch.” it runs on a regular old intel nuc. so, no, it’s not even in the same ballpark as “from scratch” like they claim.
this is all so clearly some marketing bullshit built around a drone meant to hunt people.
Your Roomba and the majority of autonomous robots rely on pre mapping the environment to navigate reliably. That’s why you have to let your Roomba map out your house the first time you set it up. It’s also obviously much slower than a drone, and I don’t think they’re using any kind of AI for motion planning anyway. They also don’t keep track of a moving target. So no, not “every autonomous drone” does this.
Of course they didn’t make their own silicon. That’s an insane and stupid standard to qualify as “from scratch”. If a bakery claims their bread is made from scratch, do you ask where their wheat fields are? They’re obviously claiming the software and AI model they trained are their own original work. (I have no idea if that’s true or not, it seems like they may have “taken inspiration” from an existing open source Chinese drone.)
Running an AI model (which is not the same thing as an LLM) to do object avoidance at speed on the device in an unmapped environment is impressive and difficult.
I mean… if they have LIDAR… why would they need an obstacle avoidance stochastic parrot?
All LIDAR does is map an environment. You still have to actually do something with that data to avoid obstacles. Usually this was done with traditional control software but writing that software for something like this is really really difficult, and it wasn’t really practical to run an AI model on device like this until relatively recently.
also, “mapping and obstacle-avoidance AI entirely on chip” is all pure marketing built on top of the current LLM hype, it’s not remotely impressive anymore for a high end university. every autonomous drone (and your roomba)
Are you seriously comparing this with a roomba? Have you even seen a roomba working? They move so slowly you could implement their obstacle avoidance in Python. And they bump into things all the time! Doing this in real time, in 3D, at the speed of a runner is a completely different problem. Doing this on a drone’s own chip is actually quite impressive.
Your roomba never chased you through a forest?
The “snail that will kill you” scenario is getting more plausible every day.
Doomba
Palmer Lucky exemplifies this terrifying phenomenon for me. Completely incapable of foreseeing the profound negative outcomes for all of us, just fixated on the tech and the challenges involved and the excitement of being on the cutting edge and being “patriotic”. It’s not even sociopathy, it’s like a complete blindness to the lives of others and the knock-on effects of their actions. The most pure, unadulterated naïvety it’s possible to achieve with a human genome, exploited and monetised by people who probably really are evil cunts. I’m sure Palmer’s lovely to talk to, not remorseless or sadistic, able to feel sadness on behalf of others, etc. Just physically incapable of taking his eyes off his job for long enough to notice anything else. I think this is why “evil tech guy” accusations don’t really land, because they know they’re not evil and so dismiss our concerns and just keep on truckin’ towards Armageddon. People like Musk and that twisted little moonfruit Peter Thiel are the ones I could comfortably execute in a ditch for the good of humanity, but Palmer Lucky would be too interested in the backhoe we used to dig his grave to realise he was about to die. It’d be like shooting a dog or something, no point, just rehome him and retrain him.
Completely incapable of foreseeing the profound negative outcomes for all of us, just fixated on the tech and the challenges involved and the excitement of being on the cutting edge and being “patriotic”. It’s not even sociopathy, it’s like a complete blindness to the lives of others and the knock-on effects of their actions.
I’m 100% certain he knows exactly what he’s doing, but the public dont get to see that face. That’s for the investors to know and us to die finding out.
(Also isn’t what you described sociopathy? I’m not a psychoanalyst so couldn’t tell you for sure but that sounds exactly like sociopathic behaviour)
Would you look at that. One more reason to fight to the death against anyone oppressing you.
The ICE situation in American befuddles me. They going to kill you anyway, FIGHT. Meh. Maybe that’s easy for me to say after hitting middle-age having lived an interesting life. 🤷🏼♂️
