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Truly harrowing. Just round the corner from me, and an area I frequently cycle. I hate it here.
Stay safe out there
Thank you dear stranger, I will try my best.
Coming from the US, if he had stopped the car immediately, the bicyclist would likely be alive, and the driver would’ve received a metaphorical slap on the wrist by comparison to the act he performed. Murder is the only outcome he deserves.
This didn’t happen in the US. There is nothing about this story related to the USA. Not every story has to have an American perspective. Capital punishment fixes nothing.
You’d think that living in the worst country in the world™ would stop people talking about it so often.
Spoken like someone who has no idea what’s happening in Sudan right now.
I know it didn’t happen in the US. That’s my only insight that I could offer. I don’t know how favorable UK courts are to drivers. If it had happened in the US, and the driver stopped immediately after impact, it likely wouldn’t have turned out too badly for the driver because of how favored drivers are and how light their punishments are from US judges.
As for capital punishment, I wasn’t even mentioning the punishment for the driver. The incident being classified as “murder” is the only outcome that could work given the driver’s actions. I wasn’t calling for the execution of the driver at all.
I hope that clears up my positions. Correspondence through text isn’t always great at conveying intentions.
If you have nothing to offer then maybe don’t share?
You post to an international community and then say “we don’t need your opinion” - this is a forum! How disrespectful you are.
Aye, exactly, international community. And yet every thread, on every bloody website in the world, has an American chiming in to discuss their country instead of the country at hand.
It’s so prevalent it even has a Wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_arrogance
It’s not disrespectful to point out that what they’re talking about is so tenuously relevant to the post as to be irrelevant.
They replied in a polite manner and explained their position. I upvoted it. I downvoted their original comment because it’s not relevant.
Coming from the UK and complaining about Global Arrogance… Oh boy. How quickly you have forgotten, or try to ignore, your imperial roots.
Coming from the human race and complaining about the British Empire… Oh, boy…
Aww, did I touch a nerve?
Your attempt at bait is hilarious because I 100% agree with it.
Just hit the downvote button and move on. Jeez.
Okay. Done.
There you go. Very easy, and you don’t disrupt the discussion that way.
I’m glad I could teach you something new.
Man, go outside, touch some grass… this could sound pedant, but is an honest suggestion.
Yeah, who cares about perspective. Shit that happens one place could NEVER happen anywhere else.
Biting at people on Lemmy are the wrong people to be a bitch to.
But then, that behavior is the same tribalism that gets us into these messes in the first place.
Which makes you no fucking different at all.
Congratulations.
In Antarctica they don’t have bicycles!
If you try to cycle up Mount Everest then you’ll struggle, this is because cycling infrastructure there is next to nonexistent.
In the Netherlands there’s so many bikes that people often don’t bother to lock them up and if a driver dragged a cyclist to their death there’d possibly be an angry mob outside the court!
What perspective does this or the American comments I replied to provide?
It’s not tribalism to point out irrelevant commentary is irrelevant. It’s tribalism to irrationally defend it just because it’s from your nation.
As you continue to browse the internet, look at threads about American news and notice the general lack of commentary from European, Asian, African, Oceanic, or South American perspectives. Then look at threads about any other topic besides the USA and notice they very often have comments talking about the US even if it’s irrelevant to the topic.
It’s a phenomenon that when pointed out brings out the worst in Americans. Even those that normally would be rational, liberal, and level headed turn into angry pATrIoTs to defend their right to talk about themselves and their nation when it has no relevance. As was previously pointed out, this is an international community, not an exclusively American one.
You spent a lot of time trying to defend a shitty comment.
That says something about you.
Aww, you couldn’t rationally defend your comment so you chose an ad hominem instead. That’s cute.
Prison, courts, laws also fix nothing. What’s your point?
I do like hearing that other countries are slightly less car-brained.
Seems like it’s only fair that he gets transported under the bus to prison for his sentence.
In the US, it’s normally OK to hit someone with your car. Unless that person is a cop. The pigs will execute babies over that.
Not every story needs to be ‘America bad’. Give it a rest.
Yeah! Other countries suck too! You wanna fight about it!?
This didn’t happen in the US. There is nothing about this story related to the USA. Not every story has to have an American perspective.
I meant it as a complement, jerk. As in, look how much better the UK is with traffic fatalities. But you’re right, fuck those colonial assholes. Goddamn nation of thieves and drunks, get out of Ireland!
Is that European enough for you?
British people try not to get worked up over nothing challenge (impossible)
Literally anybody mentioning what things are like in the country they’re from:
Everyone: “Yeah cool, that’s totally reasonable input. Thanks for sharing!”
American mentioning what things are like in the US:
Someone: “WHY WOULD YOU EVEN MENTION THAT?!? NO ONE CARES!!!”
Like give it a rest. Yeah things are shit in the US but why do you think that means it’s okay to be a jerk to anyone who’s from there?
I ain’t clicking that bro @grok tell me what it is
You’re acting like a redditor.
Redditors, that famously homogenous group of people.
You’re acting like a tribalist annoyed that your tribe doesn’t get to dominate every conversation regardless of its relevance.
“we don’t have car culture!”
Yesterday an 18 cyclist was killed in a hit and run, at noon in Montreal.
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I can imagine myself going into shock and doing irrational things shortly after an unexpected horrific event. Like, driving the one mile before coming back into one’s right mind is somewhat explainable. But then all the actions after the stop ending with abandoning the person - it’s mind boggling.
After he stopped, Richardson twice tried to pull Mullins out, before returning to the car and driving sharply and deliberately from side to side before mounting a grass verge, the court heard. Mullins was finally released but was then driven over again as Richardson reversed and drove away.
Holy fucking shit. This person is a threat to everyone. No care at all for others, only for self-preservation. Glad he’s locked up.
I guess the guy didn’t like cyclists!
But the guy was cycling too slow and he had places to be!
Did you not seen the damage to his car?
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What other weapon might he have had available in some situation where he might get overcome with random vicious anger?
And in a way where the beginning of the violence is mostly accidental.I don’t think any other weapon than a car would have been able to bring him into this heinous deed.
That’s not just unpopular, that’s ridiculous and factually incorrect. First of all, nothing in the article mentions anything about premeditation or anything suggesting he would’ve murdered the guy by other means instead.
Second, it’s well-established fact that the act of driving causes aggression that otherwise would not exist. Hell, Disney was making cartoons about it 75 years ago! The reason the behavior is specific to driving is that:
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The news is that he was actually charged and convicted.
cause it’s not the us
