• jontree255@lemmy.world
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    11 days ago

    Please show this meme to the people of Minnesota, Rene Goode’s family, Alex Pretti’s family, that kid who lost his eye, and the people who are following ICE around daily to prevent them from kidnapping people.

    Doing a protest like the ones in France right now, two weeks before our midterms, would be very stupid and probably boost Trump and the GOP.

    Now, when they try to steal the election and nothing gets done you can complain, but I don’t think that’s gonna happen.

    • Arcanepotato@crazypeople.online
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      11 days ago

      Please show this meme to the people of Minnesota, Rene Goode’s family, Alex Pretti’s family, that kid who lost his eye, and the people who are following ICE around daily to prevent them from kidnapping people.

      This meme isn’t about them and it’s incredible that this is your argument.

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        11 days ago

        This meme is about how Americans are lazy and aren’t doing anything or haven’t done anything to resist or outright overthrow their fascist government. So yeah I’d say those people are relevant.

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            11 days ago

            I’m saying this meme ignores their sacrifices becuase it lumps all Americans into the fat lazy group when they are the clear exceptions. And again, people are still out there doing the work.

            I don’t use them as a shield. They’re motivation for me to do better.

          • LilB0kChoy@reddthat.com
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            11 days ago

            Is the image from OP generalizing entire countries?

            Maybe both you and OP are bad actors who are looking to drive division and infighting amongst people over what is clearly a global problem.

            Or maybe you’re just a smug asshole and part of the problem? But hey, why not knock down and demean others to make yourself feel big and righteous, behave no better than the emboldened fascist fucks.

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                  11 days ago

                  I see. So when I tell someone if they aren’t doing the thing in the meme the meme isn’t about them I will also add “and that’s why you are such a good person”.

                  Deal, but only if we get a chapter on why shame and revenge are poison and how lessons from prison abolitionists can help them be even gooder people.

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      11 days ago

      No they can’t complain, there’ll just be another wall of excuses and when they aren’t accepted, personal attacks, unless you’re Canadian then you’ll get your arse kissed because the threat is real from them.

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      11 days ago

      Lol because you resisted so hard in 2024. It’s not easy to overthrow your government, but stop pretending the threshold for doing so wasn’t crossed

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        11 days ago

        Not sure what you’re getting at here. Trump won in 2024. Just like Joe Biden won in 2020. Except when Trump won there wasn’t a mob smearing shit on the Capitol walls because they didn’t like the outcome.

        I don’t buy any conspiracy theory that Elon changed votes in 2024 or whatever bullshit people are using to cope with the fact that Americans are fucking stupid and Biden was a colossal fuckup.

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      9 days ago

      …and it acheived fucking nothing haha

      Once again proving that non-violent resistance aint shit. The Algerians, Cubans , Koreans , Burkinabe, and Vietnamese send their regards

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        The Cubans are escaping to Florida instead of revolting, Korea has had multiple visibly corrupt presidents and I still haven’t heard of violent protests… Not sure those are the best examples.

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          …Ah Yup yup yup every excuse in the book.

          Instead of talking about Cubans from 1959 …you talk about Cubans today. Bro IDGAF abou Cubans today. Bro Cuba is no longer a socialist state. Have you seen the rrforms? Have you seen the oil embargos effects on Cuba since 2 years ago up until today? Clearly you havent so why am I even asking?

          Instead of talking about Koreans from 1910-53 …you talk about SOUTH KOREA TODAY …when Im talking ALL of the Korean Penninsula from decades ago.

          BUT Yup yup yup! Keep up the excuses . Never use historicals examples to give you directions as to what the americams should do today YUP YUP YUP.

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            Bro IDGAF abou Cubans today.

            Well that’s a bit racist, isn’t it

            Bro Cuba is no longer a socialist state. Have you seen the rrforms? Have you seen the oil embargos effects on Cuba since 2 years ago up until today? Clearly you havent so why am I even asking?

            Oh, the oil embargos of the last 2 years are the reason Cubans have been fleeing Cuba for decades, got it. Not fleeing the dictatorship (instead of revolting against it).

            Instead of talking about Koreans from 1910-53 …you talk about SOUTH KOREA TODAY …when Im talking ALL of the Korean Penninsula from decades ago.

            Did they revolt against the Japanese, or did Japan lose the war? I was under the impression they only managed to kick the oppressors out because the oppressors got two nukes dropped on them. By the Americans ironically enough.

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            As if these regimes were not totalitarian from beginning and did not serve imperialist interests of soviet pseudosocialism. Protecting the spirit of revolution to eventually become corpocracy that is even stronger capitalist than the capitalist-democratic counterparts.

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    11 days ago

    I can’t tell if this is a right winger thinking everything is alright in the USA or someone who realizes we’re in sort of a lull between crazy stuff happening and other crazy stuff happening. Edit: ahhh I read the comments.

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    The thing about America is, for every person who cares, there are 3 idiots with guns who would love to be the next Kyle Rittenhouse. They aren’t even all republikkkans. Just boot lickers with a murder fantasy

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        I’ll admit it, I’m fuckin afraid of my neighbors in a red state. I’m afraid of my own fuckin parents. They are violent, brainwashed sociopaths with guns. Without a movement to hide in just gonna wind up dead in the street. Call me a coward, but it’s a fine line between cowardice and stupidity. If I wasn’t married, I’m certain I would have thrown my life away on it already.

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    10 days ago

    The White House doesn’t look like that anymore. It is a construction site. That’s what you get when you elect a real estate manager twice.

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      A real estate manager who literally isn’t smart enough to learn how to wipe his own ass.

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      No it begins in the large cities when a critical mass of people don’t want to abide by the given rules anymore instead they want to write their own.

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    10 days ago

    These threads are full of useful idiots and propagandists shitting on Americans.

    I’m so bored by this nonsense. At least get more clever if you’re going to try to divide all of us.

    The way I see it, we’re all in this together. Even the Russian people are my ally if they oppose fascism and corruption. These are my people… All people who want a better world.

    But sure, enjoy your indulgences if this thread is your thing. May your lives be as short as Trump’s should be.

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        My guy It’s about the people being against fascism, not the governments of those people.

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            I’m surprised everyday by what my fellow US Americans want. I imagine it’s not much different than what propaganda the average russian citizen believes.

            There are people in both countries that know what empathy is, and understand they’re being lied to though.

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              Yes, USA and Russia is similar. Trump won 2 times in USA same as Putin won couple of fair elections before they stopped being fair. Both USA and Russia are full of bloodthirsty, racist people that believe they live in the greatest country in the world. It’s not an accident that brutal dictators raised to power there. It’s a direct expression of the desires of their citizens. Only when the oppression starts to affect them personally they begin to see the light.

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          No I wouldn’t say the Russian people are the enemy either. But their autocratic government invading Ukraine aren’t exactly high on my list of potential allies.

          It’s not the Russian people that were fighting, but we should be fighting autocracy wherever it happens to be, and it happens to be in Russia. Being allies isn’t like being sister cities. Our autocratic govt is in bed with their autocratic govt.

          • that were fighting,

            Sorry, what trench in Ukraine are you posting from?

            but we should be fighting autocracy wherever it happens to be, and it happens to be in Russia

            Are you American? Because your country is currently engaged in war crimes, and you can fight it plenty well from there.

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          the biggest lie ever told.

          People always say 'belgh blehg blerg bleg governement ≠ belgh blehg blerg vleg people . People have gotta stop spoiuting this bullshit line cause Im too tored of it. Carlin said it once:

          "Now, there’s one thing you might have noticed I don’t complain about: politicians. Everybody complains about politicians. Everybody says they suck. Well, where do people think these politicians come from? They don’t fall out of the sky. They don’t pass through a membrane from another reality. They come from American parents and American families, American homes, American schools, American churches, American businesses and American universities, and they are elected by American citizens. This is the best we can do folks. This is what we have to offer. It’s what our system produces: Garbage in, garbage out. If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you’re going to get selfish, ignorant leaders. Term limits ain’t going to do any good; you’re just going to end up with a brand new bunch of selfish, ignorant Americans. So, maybe, maybe, maybe, it’s not the politicians who suck. Maybe something else sucks around here… like, the public. Yeah, the public sucks. There’s a nice campaign slogan for somebody: 'The Public Sucks. Fck Hope. Because if it is really just the fault of the politicians then where are all the other bright people of conscience? Where are all the bright, honest, intelligent Americans ready to step in and save the nation and lead the way? We don’t have people like that in this country. Everybody’s at the mall, scratchin’ his ass, pickin’ his nose, takin’ his credit card out of his fanny pack and buyin’ a pair of sneakers with lights in them. So, I have solved this little political dilemma for myself in a very simple way. On Election Day, I stay home. I don’t vote. Fck ’em! Fck ’em! I don’t vote. Two reasons. Two reasons I don’t vote. First of all, it’s meaningless. This country was bought and sold and paid for a long time ago. This shit they shuffle around every four years? Pfft! Pfft! It doesn’t mean a fcking thing. And secondly, I don’t vote because I believe if you vote you have no right to complain. People like to twist that around, I know. They say, ‘Well, if you don’t vote you have no right to complain.’ But where’s the logic in that? If you vote and you elect dishonest, incompetent people and they get into office and screw everything up, well, you are responsible for what they have done. You caused the problem. You voted them in. You have no right to complain. I, on the other hand…who did not vote…who did not vote…who, in fact, did not even leave the house on Election Day, am in no way responsible for what these people have done and have every right to complain as loud as I want about the mess you created that I had nothing to do with. So, I know that a little later on this year you’re gunna have another one of those really swell presidential elections that you like so much [Bill Clinton v. Bob Dole]. You enjoy yourselves; it’ll be a lot of fun. I’m sure as soon as the election is over your country will improve immediately. As for me, I’ll be home on that day, doing essentially the same thing as you. The only difference is, when I get finished jerking it, I’m gunna have a little something to show for it, folks.” – George Carlin  

          These are Russians and Ukranians from Russian and Ukranianian homes, businesses, schools, soldiers who instead of just saying “Fuck it” and conscientiously objecting in jail in the millions and millions together in brother and sister hood choose to do their fucking parastic bitches biddings . How long do you think this war would go on for if only the politicians threw their bloody parasrtic asses at each other? … I heard the same said anout the needless Iran-Lebanon-Yemen war…

          Heck even the last surviving WWI veteran talked about this: He said something along fhe lines of: “I still feel about the war now as I did then, that I wished that these fucking politicoans were the omes who picked up the guns and artilerry and blew up each other.”

          The Common People outnumber the politicians, the billionaires , the bribed mercenary class traiitor pigs in the hundreds and even thousands. The Common People can clearly ALWAYS come together and absolutely de-fucking-molish the fuxk out of all these war mongerers and create numerous societies that are created by the Common People and work for The Common People, Societies That Works For The Workers !..

          …The people choose not to do this… Every second …of everyday… Why they choose not to do this? Meh! Ive asked a couple and its always bullshit reasons here and there. Heck, Ive met some people who acrually enjoy being exploited like this.

          The people indeed ARE their government . The people at any moment could substantiate substantial effort to permenanently change their society for the better , to substantially change society to favor them and our hard work . We have the dream , we have the hands , we have the numbers… but we dont have the courage (or even the thinking capacity it seems) . Instead we would rather just be complacent and let these parasites throw us at each other or shoot at each other over a couple thousand dollars in random gang wars here and there…

          Fuck outta here with this garbage.

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      …ook…and now what are you americans doing for your allies? …

      and on a side note I find it odd that the Russians havent rebelled violently against Poo-tin. Its Loooong overdue. Dude’s a nearly useless goof.

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      At least get more clever if you’re going to try to divide all of us.

      Is the opposite is the goal? reunite US against the empire?

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    BS Americans were getting shot execution style protesting ice. Do we need more. YES but this is garbage

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      Ewww civil disobedience?!

      “Nobody should self-immolate for Gaza. Symbolic acts only have an effect when your enemies are humans and ours are not . Instead if youre already sure you want out, you should… ??? idf veterans in your local area.”

      You think symbolic acts of civil disobedience will make a difference? Actually , you know what? I want the americans to keep on and keep on doing it. Ha! Theyre already doing this and they did it during the Civil Rights riots (my favorite part of the Civil Rights Riots were how nowadays non-White americams are still NOT treated like humans and STILL not reparated). Let us see what changes for for the americans in the next 50 years… 🍿🤭

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          …ok… and now let us watch as the Serbian bourgeoisie install ANOTHER dictator. Or install a placeholder who gives the Serbian people a few treats here and there and then their successor … takes all those treats away 🤭🍿😏

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    At least one of those shots is behind a permanent spiked perimeter fence that you get arrested or shot for crossing. Also Trump keeps moving the White House temporary perimeter fence back further from the White House. I need to check if the Capitol Building is currently fenced off