• Denfa@lemmy.world
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    21 days ago

    Is it tasteless? Yes. Why is it allowed? Because we have first amendment rights Susan— and questioning the rights of the masses just wasted any sympathy you were getting. Well, that, and the fact the Trump accounts you helped create are already getting called out for fraud.

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      20 days ago

      Because we have first amendment rights Susan

      had*

      Now only the rich and powerful have first amendment rights in the USA.

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    21 days ago

    When are people going to learn these billionaire narcissists don’t care what we say about them, just that we talk about them.

    This post and everything about her, is what she wants you to do.

    I’m understanding when maga falls for this shit, but it’s so fucking depressing to see people on the left incapable of seeing they’re being manipulated

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      21 days ago

      If you know they’re narcissists, then you should also know that narcissists are among the most insecure human beings on this planet, if not the most. They definitely don’t like being made fun of, even if they mask it well.

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        21 days ago

        You’re consistently incorrect to an astonishing level…

        You legitimately think a narcissist would rather be ignored than insulted?

        They crave any attention, nothing is worse than being ignored.

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      21 days ago

      Yeah, these motherfuckers are like flesh and blood versions of Freddy Kruger. They lose their power when we collectively turn our backs on them.

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        21 days ago

        These are people who stole children and took them to a far away place to fuck them to death in secret. If you don’t watch them like hawks out of some misplaced sense of sticking it to their ego, you’re guilty of negligence.

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          21 days ago

          These are people who stole children and took them to a far away place to fuck them to death in secret

          What are you even talking about?

          When you just throw that shit at everyone, it means less when you say it about the people really doing it…

          And just like I said last time, that’s a known propaganda technique and literally why “pedo” was Ellon Musks go to insult and still what they say about anyone they disagree with.

          How the fuck can you legitimately not understand you’re helping them?!

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            21 days ago

            What are you even talking about?

            When you just throw that shit at everyone, it means less when you say it about the people really doing it…

            We’re talking about MAGA. The pedo party. Baby what is you doin.

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              21 days ago

              So you don’t know who Susan Dell is…

              You’ve just identified her as “them” and that makes her the same as every other “them”…

              Welp, I’m blocking you now, because that type of narrow-minded ignorant and bigoted thinking belongs with trump.

              The worst she’s ever done is get grifted for billions of dollars while genuinely trying to help kids like she has for longer than you’ve probably been alive.

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_Dell

              You’re just as bad as maga, think exactly the fucking same

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      21 days ago

      I don’t care who you are, if an entire country is making fun of the way you look, that stings.

      She wouldn’t have gotten the surgeries if she wasn’t insecure about her appearance. She apparently just cheaped out with some back alley slasher.

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    21 days ago

    I honestly thought it was some viral marketing for a horror movie for a while until I figured out that this eldritch horror was and actual person (allegedly).

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      21 days ago

      I only know this image as the ‘sleep paralysis demon’. I thought originally it was for a movie as well.

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    21 days ago

    Ma’am, you turned into a public joke the second you stood in the Oval Office behind the stink lines and looked like some shit out of Inception.

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    21 days ago

    When you look like a sleep paralysis demon these things happen. You should be used to that by now.

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    21 days ago

    A series of very poor choices led her to standing next to Trump in the Oval office looking like that. The first one was marrying Michael Dell.

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      21 days ago

      Other than the haircut she looks nice, not sure what happened. Like others said, dysphoria I guess. Too much plastic surgery and someone should have fixed her heavy heavy makeup.

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        21 days ago

        It’s not fair to compare a 20 year old picture to an older version but she sure does look like she would have aged well, and she is in phenomenal shape, distance triathlon athlete.

        What I don’t understand is why these hyper-rich people can’t get good surgery. 2 ladies at my work got eye lifts (partly for medical reasons) and they look perfectly natural. Honestly, I don’t understand what is going on.

        Her style choices at the white house were also perplexing. You have enough money to hire a stylist to help you find flattering clothes and a makeup artist. The red dress not a good red for her and the makeup that looks like she let an 8 year old do it. None of it makes sense.

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          20 days ago

          I bet they are intolerable to interact with and not willing to pay what it’d cost to hire a professional to help them look normal.

          Also, these oligarchs are terrified of people outside their class to the point they want to put bomb collars on their security detail. That type of attitude buys a lot of malicious compliance

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            But melania is often stylish, not always but at least looks like someone looked at her body type and complexion and made reasonable choices based on them. And she has to be at least that much of a POS. And the Kardashian people and so many more.

            Madam Dell really stands out, like there is not one good thing I can say about her look. I can’t see her shoes, maybe they were nice. I don’t understand how. I am not a professional and could have made her look so much better, so much of this uncanny awfulness is bad choices not fundamental to her look.

            With darker hair and better makeup (top still not a great color for her, and she ought not darken her eyebrows so much with the blond hair, and still I don’t think good surgery but better)

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    21 days ago

    What is this phenomenon where so many people in Trump’s orbit have obvious and shitty plastic surgery. Is it a desire to fit in? Is it the white nationalist/fascist equivalent of a gang tattoo?

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        21 days ago

        I think conservatives do come from a place of anxiety in general, but they are usually of the mindset to keep the status quo.

        The mental illness is authoritarianism that comes as conservatives start to actively make things worse.

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          21 days ago

          Conservatives are only anxious about gas prices and the fact that their attempt to oppress and exterminate vulnerable classes appears to be in jeopardy. They are nervous that their dream of permanent power might be slipping away.

          Conservatives are the oppressors, not the victims. In fact, conservatives would call your expression of empathy for them “woke” and see it as a weakness to exploit.

          Understand that a conservative is biologically unable to experience empathy. This is why they despise it and are disgusted by it. Give them a hint of empathy and they will use it to attack you.

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          21 days ago

          To keep the status quo

          LOL… they elected Dumpster Fire to be a dumpster fire. They’re influencers. They don’t care about the status quo, unless it’s racist, sexist, or misogynist and sometimes ableist.

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        21 days ago

        So it is like a gang tattoo, or I guess maybe a cattle brand would be a better analogy. Permanently disfigure your body in a hideous fashion to show you’re really “one of us.”

        I wonder if there’s some external psychological aspect. Like, is there implicit or explicit pressure to have this done, because once it’s done they know it’ll be very difficult to escape the cult-like environment?

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          21 days ago

          I would compare it more to cultures who denote status by who has the biggest disc in their lip or the longest spring on their neck:

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            20 days ago

            At least it’s a meritocracy instead of “who can be the most psychopathic pedo?”

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            But in those cultures those are status symbols, whereas Mar A Lago face seems to indicate that you’re part of their in-group. Do the lip and neck stretchers indicate something similar to members of those cultures?

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      21 days ago

      More then just a “uniform” or a “brand”, like a tie or designer or tattoo, these faces have deep psychological underpinnings.

      This face is a comfort for a fascist to behold. Any expensive surgery could do for signaling. This face was landed-on through trial and error, for a reason.

      Studying paintings done by the mentally ill, it becomes obvious that they don’t see faces (or anything really) like the average person. This makes sense, as even a well adjusted person will interpret an expression or tone differently depending on what they perceive the person to be feeling, or even their own mood. They will literally see it differently.

      The mentally ill just see an extreme version of this phenomenon.

      Fascists are terrified all the time. To them, every face hides malice and deception. Mar-a-lago face is an exaggeration of a jovial, open, honest visage, to counteract what a fascist sees every day in every face.

      They have huge, puffy cheeks under their eyes, like the bunching of skin in a smile. Their lips are big and puffy, a far cry from pursed in anger, this also makes a smile more exaggerated. Their eyes are deeply, darkly outlined in ovals, not pointed at the edges, highlighting how they are open and not squinting or angry.

      Maralago face is a caricature of a happy, loving, honest face. To a normal person it looks like a horrific joke on that type of face, taken to extremes, but to a fascist, these exaggerations push back against their own skewed vision of every face. These exaggerations return the face closer to a normal person’s baseline.

      To a fascist, this face appears more normal and more comforting.

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        21 days ago

        This explains why conservatives see nothing wrong with how they look. Conservatism is a disease that breeds weirdness and evil.

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        Confidently said, and definitely interesting to think about.

        I still tend to think it’s a lot simpler than that. Body dysmorphic disorder is a very real thing, at least 2 or 3 in 100. BDD + Money = Lots of “bad” plastic surgery (it’s not bad surgery, it’s exactly what they asked for…

        Money, especially the money that makes unlimited plastic surgery an option, is concentrated at the top.

        You don’t get to the top by thinking about others, so most of those at the top are the hard conservatives, with little to no morals AKA MAGA.

        So you’re going to see that face everywhere in the White House and rallies. It’s all the people with BDD that also have a lot of money.

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          I completely agree. This is due to BDD, and the BDD is being expressed this way because these women have the money to do so.

          But also, eh.

          BDD has many different sources and presents in many different ways. You can have it with eating disorders, OCD, major depressive disorders, etc. It can cause you to see yourself in a myriad of false ways.

          This particular presentation I am speaking about is going to present with personality traits adjacent to cluster C personality disorders, and anxiety disorders, and it causes the above result.

          In this instance, you saying “it’s a lot simpler than that” would be like if I described the specific ways the Nile river comes into existence and you countered with “it’s simpler than that. It’s just evaporation and gravity.” Which is true, but completely discards the nuance and detail I was trying to impart, for a false sense of understanding.

          So, you are completely right, but all you did was add more jpeg.

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      21 days ago

      They’re just typical trash with money. But being trash, they don’t have any connections that aren’t also trash. So they get the trash plastic surgeons to slice and dice them.

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      I believe the men are scamming the women. They aren’t married for love or lust, or if they were, that faded with age. And they are so fake just by default that even the ones who do still love each other probably don’t feel secure about it because of course they’d say “No babe, I just love you and am not interested in anyone else” regardless of if that’s true or if they are having orgies at every business trip.

      And cosmetic surgeons target insecurities and promise the world whether or not they can actually deliver.

      So it wouldn’t surprise me if what happens in a bunch of those cases is an insecure woman gets the surgery done, it looks like it does, and their husband gets a kick out of them ruining their looks in an attempt to impress them, also being happy that it reduces the number of other men that would be interested.

      Similar thing for “influencers” or women in porn that buy into the “this is what men want” lie.

      Though ironically, I bet there is a sexual angle to it, too, where seeing their wife ruin their looks to impress them turns them on, but I doubt the sex is loving.

      Anyways, just my attempt at making sense out of something that seems to me to do more to put them on the far side of the uncanny valley than to help them look any better. If they unironically like that look, I can’t relate to them at all.

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      Someone online said that people in wealthy circles are only surrounded by other wealthy people who also have plastic surgery… so their definition of normal is, not. You know, the whole “losing touch” thing that happens to 99% of people who get their bag.

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        This. I actually wonder if there’s a person to trace the look back to (like current extreme features in men go back to Zyzz), or if a particular surgical technique led to a distinct look post surgery that was unavoidable, so some people started fitting the rest of their features to that look.

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    21 days ago

    Then it shouldn’t have gone on national television advocating giving up our rights for privacy and installing Dump’s surveillance app.

    What did it think was going to happen? Looken like a Martian from Mar Attacks.