OP, we received a report on this post asking that it be tagged with a warning for violence. Could you do so (or mark it NSFW), please?
NSFW seems extreme. It’s violence, but not unsafe for work. There’s no blood or gore. We only truly know there’s harm done due to news reports. Marking it NSFW would mean the largest UK Lemmy instance would then not be able to see this UK content because of our stupid internet laws.
A violence tag would make sense though.
Thanks, I wasn’t aware of that implication.
lucifer fucking satan. I would think this was the y’allkiada in the heart of texas without the subject.
That man needs to go to gaol, and when he gets out he needs to never be allowed behind the wheel of a car again.
There’s no reason why this person should ever be allowed to drive again.
And he’s only on his learner’s licence.
Or walk really… Put the criminal behind bars
I’m fine with them being a pedestrian after having served their time.
The ban on driving does not have to end, though. It can be permanent.
Bruh he was a temporary pedestrian when he grabbed the cyclist by the neck and threw him onto the road.
So he’s only violent when he’s a pedestrian?
Yeah seems so, bicyclist was unharmed when he was in his car
That clearly didn’t come out of nowhere. They were already arguing for some amount of time. I’d appreciate more context of what lead to that before I make any judgement.
The context is that throwing someone to the ground like that is illegal even when you’ve been arguing for a while
That’s certainly a fact that it’s illegal; Almost no matter the context. It could be considered part of the broader environmental context. Like it’s not raining.
But I’m more looking for the actions of the three people involved, during the several minutes leading up to the head slamming. Longer possibly. Maybe one or more of them has a criminal history.
Yeah i really don’t know if i should side with tge guy who has his skull smashed in or the coward who did it and drove away. Maybe the cyclist called him a pussy, or even worse.
You aren’t? That’s odd. Who else would you side with?
What makes the criminal a coward? The driving away? Would it be brave for him to stay, waiting to be arrested? Or is that just some dismissive rhetoric?
What context could possibly make it ok for the ecocidal narcissist to assault the cyclist?
You don’t need any more context than what’s in the video to know that this shitbag need the dildo of consequences to arrive unlubed and covered in sandpaper.
No context would make it okay. If the cyclist was a mass murderer who killed the man’s entire home town, it still wouldn’t be okay.
But while we can acknowledge it’s bad no matter what, we also might be able to understand his reaction reaction.
If the cyclist was a mass murderer who killed the man’s entire home town, it still wouldn’t be okay.
Just shut the fuck up. Quit saying dumb shit like this
It’s just true. The vindictive mindset is a primordial cognitive disease.
Piss off you absolute bell-end
There’s an article, and it’s as I expected:
A Scottish motorist left a cyclist with a serious brain injury following a violent road rage incident in Edinburgh. Joseph Hedley became involved in a confrontation with cyclist Iain Brown before violently attacking the man without provocation at the city’s Cowgate in September 2024.
Why would you assume anything different?
I wouldn’t assume at all. That’s what everyone else is doing.
And the “without provocation” is almost certainly wrong. People don’t act like that without some internal reason. Better phrasing would be “without any known provocation”.
With the various responses, I get the impression that people assume any known reason would be a justification. As if reason itself is a justification. Of course that’s not true at all.
I don’t know if you’ve done much cycling on public roads, but your mere existence is enough ‘provocation’ for some of these nutjobs.
I have. It’s a part of why I stopped almost 20 years ago.
But still that’s just guessing. We don’t know much of anything that happened here.We know enough to know that nothing justifies that kind of response.
Honestly, I too would like to see the events leading up to it, but I accept that’s unlikely to happen. In my view, as soon as a driver gets out of their car to do anything except exchange details after a crash, they’ve lost any moral high ground regardless, if they had any in the first place.
Of course not. Nothing would justify it. But explain it? Sure. Maybe there was an understandable reason for it, beyond bad impulse.
No.
You’re absolutely assuming, because you assume the article is wrong to make up your own interpretation of events.
Sometimes motorists are just jackasses that want to hurt cyclists. That’s a real thing that happens.
The article isn’t wrong. It never states any reason. It never makes an assumption beyond saying it was unprovoked. The article is quite factual realy.
It’s everyone else here who’s assuming the man’s state of mind, motivation, and sanity even. I’m not assuming you all are wrong. But I’m also not assuming any of you are right. Because the article has no information about your judgments.
Yeah, man. We gotta find if the victim is to blame, here.
/s
What the hell, man?
Not to blame him. To understand why. Attacks like that don’t just happen in a vacuum.
Why were they stopped in the middle of the road? How long had they been arguing? What we’re they arguing about? Did they know each other prior to this encounter? Should there also be traffic tickets, in addition to the criminal charges? We know literally nothing about the event. Why is everyone satisfied with ignorance?
Attacks like that don’t just happen in a vacuum.
To cyclists, they really do just happen in a vacuum. I’ve been fortunate to only get heckles and honks in my area while riding
Not to the people doing the attacking, they don’t
Attacks like that don’t just happen in a vacuum.
Right, they happen when entitled motor vehicle drivers feel disrespected. The cyclist may have even done something stupid beforehand that put everyone in that car in danger.
But it almost certainly doesn’t matter, because there is almost nothing that cyclist could have possibly done that would justify the violence in that video.
I think that’s why no one here seems to care.
I’d say there’s absolutely no justification. Even if the cyclist killed the man’s wife first, it wouldn’t justify it. But it would make it understandable.
As it is there’s no way to understand what happened. And everyone seems content assuming they do.
Even if the cyclist killed the man’s wife first, it wouldn’t justify it.
Uh, no. That’s a load of horseshit.
Revenge is horseshit.
It’s literally just “I hurt them because they made me feel bad”. That’s never a justification.It is actually justification, you just choose not to accept it.
look at this fucking cyclist violently standing still there listening the women screams!!!
I’m sure he ran a red light once! Also the poor people stand no chance against this heavy bicycle
You also should consider not waiting for a likely attacker to attack you. You attack first or flee
only americans would even begin to think this could happen. stop victim blaming.
It’s clear who the victim is. That being said, nothing is worth brain damage and permanent partial paralysis. There are crazy people out there. Always try to deescalate. Sometimes it’s just better to let the idiot have his way.
Suggesting people have basic situational awareness is not victim blaming.
“Basic situational awareness” my ass. Driver went from 0 to 100. Cyclist basically got sucker punched. Driver could have grabbed the bike to move it, or backed up his car a little, or any other number of things besides crash out. Guy is a danger to society and needs to be in jail.
100% the guy is a danger to society and needs to be in jail. I never suggested anything different.
Cars are fascist to their core
That’s why cyclists are supposed to wear helmets 🥺
Because some roid rage cunt will try to kill you the moment you stop?
Like the other guy said, yes, but usually, they’ll try to murder you with their car. This video showed an unusual murder attempt for a motorist.
Because pavement is harder than your thick skull, idiot.
Yes
Fair enough.
I’m afraid i’m absolutely addicted to driving accident videos. I think it’s because there’s the sense that seeing them will make you better at not making the same mistakes
EDIT: This was not one such driving video :(
Jail time! I hope the cyclist is OK, that looks like brain trauma.
They were severely, permanently injured, and the violent idiot had been charged.
Source?
Look at the bicyclist laying unconscious on the road in front of the car. There’s your source.
People don’t understand what actually happens when you get knocked out like that. They think it is like the movies. To actually get knocked out like that means you took some serious head trauma. Like in the hospital for 6 months trauma. That guy will go to prison, with the extra charge of the UKs equivalent to using a car as a weapon.
In the linked article
The assailant should have their life ruined. Certainly lose their car and license.
The other person who just watched and walked away should suffer, too.
The karma of these people is far below zero. They don’t know it, but they constantly punish themselves. (This doesn’t mean the judiciary shouldn’t help them find enlightenment 😉)
What the fuck.
Any follow up on this?
Hedley, from Kirkcaldy, Fife, subsequently found out police had put out an appeal to find the motorist involved and he handed himself into a local station two days later. Hedley pleaded guilty to assaulting Mr Brown to his severe injury, permanent impairment and to the danger of his life when he appeared at Edinburgh Sheriff Court on Tuesday, September 22.
Source: https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/news/edinburgh-news/man-grabbed-edinburgh-cyclist-neck-34655622
“Permanent impairment” from a violent assault, huh? What’s a good punishment for that?
That cyclist will be affected for his entire life. I feel like the assailant should also be affected for his entire life.
I hope Joseph pays all of Iain’s medical bills and living costs for the rest of his life.
This is the UK, there aren’t any medical bills. He should and likely will be made to lay for loss of earnings and any additional support he might need.
Are you sure? French social security makes any responsible third party pay for everything, and insurance doesn’t usually cover crimes.
Most people don’t have any insurance to cover this precisely because the NHS will always pick up the bill. I’ve never heard of any criminal getting a bill for medical charges they’ve caused. Here in Germany, its all personal insurance - albeit strictly regulated. Maybe that’s how it works in France?
Y’all aren’t required to carry liability insurance to drive? I know in the US it’s because of costs to the victim, but hell, the NHS deserves to take the cost of treatment from people who hurt others
Shit, that’s a really bad outcome for the cyclist! Poor dude
Mate of mine died like that. Skull is very thin at the back of the head
I got a super bad concussion when I fell and hit the back of my head on some concrete a while back. It took nearly three weeks for my symptoms to go away. I got really lucky I didn’t get anything more serious. We were concerned that I permanently damaged my occipital lobe because my visual issues were not improving. Thankfully I got better, but goddamn. I can’t imagine a brain injury as severe as that guy’s. It’s terrifying.
Hits on the head are a roll of the dice: nothing, concussions, death are all options…
Don’t forget contusions the biker got a contusion.
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SUVDVLA data · 9/24/2026
Year:2024
Fuel:PETROL
Engine:1496 cc
Colour:WHITE
Body:SUV
Length:4.57 m
Weight:1,550 kgWell, by reading the article I learned he was arrested years ago. I’m not certain we need to hunt him down.
Years ago? I hope he’s been sentenced to a good long time as well as significant damages to his victim.
Hunt him down! Hunt him down!
Once online always online!
Hunt him down!Once online always online!
I’ve already dispatched my Internet armies and bots, the assassination has already taken place.
Once online always online!
American here. I ride with a gun. Seriously.
I fucking hate it, but people like this are everywhere and nobody’s helping a cyclist.
Understand the sentiment. I only ride on the little reserved infrastructure there is or on quiet roads. Motor vehicles still use the cycle path anyway, bicycle jousting seems like a solution when you get passed by an idiot on an electric scooter going 80 kph on a narrow path.
Actually, Yeah, I know exactly what you mean. I’m from Texas. I once witnessed a guy who took a lady cyclist right of way, nothing much you may say, but I got my gun out and shot a hole in the car’s motor the size of a bowling ball. An eye for an eye, thought him a lesson I tell you. Alas, this altercation was witnessed by the police, and I was arrested for aggravated assault. Seems the female cyclist didn’t have the right of way after all. I write these lines from prison, but I would still vote for Trump in a next election.
Hilarious.
My decision to ride armed was finalized after being followed for 5+ miles by a jeep full of large dudes yelling physical threats at me for riding a bicycle.
I had to hide under a bridge until they got tired of looking for me. Lovely story though.
y’all downvoters need to read between the lines
Either they’re and asshole or… they’re an asshole. What’s your point?
It’s satire. And it made me laugh because it was done so well.
I’m aware it was satire. They’re still an asshole. What’s your point?
I don’t know why you’re saying they’re an asshole. Do you not like them for some reason besides writing a satirical comment? Is Jonathan Swift an asshole for writing A Modest Proposal?
The user they replied to had a legitimate concern for their safety and took steps that allowed them protect themselves in some possible scenarios. Why the fuck would anyone mock that?
Assholes. Assholes would.
Genuinely can’t tell if this is satire or not
Yes, I’m particularly pleased with this one. Especially the out of context mention of Trump 😝
Ah, you see, the problem was that it was a white car you shot
You guys waiting for an election?
Then everyone clapped.
They’re trying to dunk on the first comment, and you’re trying to dunk on them…
And if that driver also rode with a gun?
They’d back off, because people who use their cars to bully cyclists are extreme pussies. They only harass others when they think the other side is powerless.
Also, they probably won’t have the gun in their hands when they get out of the vehicle. Either they’d need to run back to get it, or draw from a concealed holster.
What most people fail to understand is that reaction is slower than action. If you draw first on the asshole, they’re not prepared. And before anyone argues, yes, driving up to a cyclist and then stomping towards them is a credible threat. And cyclists do sometimes find themselves in that situation because these drivers have fragile egos that they need to stroke.
Then you get your gun a gun, I think. I don’t know, I’m European.
We call that a side-gun
