Berserk doesn’t really belong here. Nobody likes Griffith because they think he’s aspirational
Right, we like Griffith because we want to obliterate that twink.
You made me spit out my soup 🤣
Taxi Driver as well
Damn, some of y’all just suck all the fun out of tv and movies huh
I still like naked snake, big boss and venom snake and understood the messenge
Don’t get the MGS on the list. I, frankly, haven’t played all of them. Only TPP. And in there you are it even playing as solid snake. And, say, we consider this Pic as a Venom snake, so how exactly is he a bad guy? The whole point of the game is to peacefully remove arms from an enemy, nukes included. I mean, ofc you can go full Rambo and kill everyone and build nukes. But then youd be evil for doing so. Real game is to go pacifist and save everyone. How is this “I misunderstood the message”?
Again want to mention thatI have no idea about the rest of the series. I would like an explanation.
I once came across a system in No Man’s Sky with planets named “Griffith did nothing wrong” and “casca enjoyed it”. Truly a wild system.
I think those people got the message and we’re just being freaks
40k Space Marines
I thought the message there was you will be the bad guy.
Right, but some people misunderstood it as ‘Space Marine Good’
DAH-DAH-DAH-DAAAAAAAAHHHH
The satire is so good in this game.
What game is it?
Helldivers 2. You play as brainwashed shock troops for a tyrannical Super Earth.
Helldivers 2. You play as Super Earth’s finest spreading Managed Democracy.
Too good. Only a matter of time until off-duty cops have punisher and helldiver’s skulls on the back of their spotless F150s
Those civilian casualties are necessary sacrifices at the alter of Managed Democracy™.
Who is top right? Which anime?
Should be “monster”
Yep, that’s Johan Liebert.
Who is top middle?
Griffith from Berserk.
Thanks!
Hes an aesthetically cool looking character. Ive never watched/read berserk. Might be too dark for me
The rape scene is fucked up and traumatizing. Everything else that goes with that scene is fucked up and traumatizing, but the rape is uncomfortable (and I’m someone who’s seen A Serbian Film - I think the Eclipse is worse.)
Tyler Durden.
Above him. Middle of the top row.
I’m stupid. Also idk.
In Bloom by Nirvana
Every Breath You Take by The Police.
It has been a long time but I remember feeling sad for Rico in the book. I don’t know if Heinlein intended it to be seen like this but by the end it felt like there was nothing left of the human being.
Ya they both wanted the same thing but paul vanhoeven went a more literal path. The book read more like the recounting of a jar heads experience. Implying that despite the future having all these new toys the fasicm and ptsd hasn’t change. While PVH wanted to show how seductive and enthralling fascism ACTUALLY is. Most kids were down for genocide without thinking it through. Star ship troops is a propaganda film that seduces its watchers with sex, adventure, and style.
I guess it would have been harder to accomplish commercially a similar feeling that I believe Mass Effect 2 elicited.
Mass Effect 2 major plot point
spoiler
All through one of the three games in the series, you’re fighting this intelligent hive species with a central overlord called creatively “The General”. Right before the exact moment of defeat, you find out that the General and therefore all of his people, had been under the direct control of the true villain in the story. You realize this as the now normal, non-glowing eyes, General looks around confused and confused. Then they’re gone with the blast wave.
Starship troopers unfortunately had a perfect straw man villain with the bugs. It would have been interesting to see something like James Cameron’s tall smurf people as the antagonist in the story instead.
Halfway to that and Starship troopers is the game Hell Divers 2 which has you being a literal suicide commando. If you die in the game, you’re character is replaced by a new recruit waiting in stasis. If you look and listen, the writers give you horrifying hints of the truth. One example is the intelligent bug species are fighting back because Super Earth had been using them as fuel for their star ships.
That is unfortunately PVH’s mistake with Starship Troopers. There is no contrast to show how fucked up things are.
Why would there be contrast? It’s a propaganda film.
I have noticed a few people are a bit slow on the uptake and or struggling with critical thinking.
Though perhaps it’s best not. For example so many people feel Pearl Jam’s song Alive uplifting or inspiring. Ignorance is bliss.
Yeah, the DVD has a great commentary by Verhoeven where he is quite explicit about his intentions of showing what fascism really is in that film.
Fascism is seductive, that’s the biggest problem.
Which is why everyone is turned off by Trump and the MAGA-ts
I did like griffith a lot as teen (the physics book ofc)
Who (and how did they) misunderstood MGS? Kojima isn’t exactly subtle.
Noone hears the word, they say. Has the memory gone, are you feeling numb? We’ve all be-come in-viisible
I need to mod V to blast that from the chopper instead of Fortunate Son.
I think you’re misunderstand the meme. I think it’s aimed at Dude-bros® who only understand the superficial message which is obviously being disproven by the content. It’s making fun of people who have a Fight Club poster on their wall because they think the message is “all men can be hardcore, bare knuckle boxers, if the stop letting a weak social framework tell them what they want.” Or watching the film of Starship Troopers and learning “You can overcome any obstacle with enough bravado and testosterone.” I’m not as familiar with most of the animes pictured, but I assume the jab is the same.
The message I got was “exercise, make friends, and blow shit up”
For all of em? I can see it…
The one that confuses me is the top roght;: that’s Johan liebert from Monster. He’s an irredeemable psychopath who kills his parents as a child, and when his sister shoots him in the head to stop him from killing her, he nearly dies. Then a surgeon saves his life, only to later realize that the life he saved is that of the aforementioned irredeemable psychopath. Many years later, Johan returns and thanks the surgeon for saving his life, crediting his noble act with all of the murders he has been committing and plans to commit. The surgeon has to track him down to terminate the horrid life he granted so many years before (largely to clear his own name, because the psychopath kills someone and the cops think the surgeon did it).
Johan liebert isn’t even really making a philosophical point. He just needs to kill people. The surgeon’s situation (is he culpable for the deaths allowed because he saved a life? Is it morally right to end a life, if by doing so you can preserve many others? Essentially variations on the trolley problem) is the philosophical question, so saying that there is a group of people idolizing Johan Liebert because they misunderstand the meaning is like saying that there are people idolizing the trolley. That’s not really missing the point. Those people would just be dangerously mentally unwell.
Big Boss used child soldiers though.
No he didn’t. He rescued child soldiers, and gave them a home. He didn’t use them in combat until they were adults who, for obvious reasons, became loyal to him.
