• kreskin@lemmy.world
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    22 days ago

    Everyone put on your surprised face. And heres the part where we wholeheartedly hope that those were the only 4 bad Dems and they are so going to get it for this. The rest of the Dem leadership and dem will Not Stand For This. *eyeroll

  • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
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    22 days ago

    isnt there a Dem in texas that was pardoned by trump, he has ben consistently voting with the Rs, he will be one of them too.

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    23 days ago

    Ironic that the reason they’re doing this is that socialists keep getting democratically voted in

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    23 days ago

    Lol Democrats are Trump’s controlled opposition. If you think they exist to help the working class boy do I have a bridge to sell you. Anyway good luck trying to win against Republicans with “allies” like these. USA is cooked unless we start luigi-ing it up ❤️✌️

  • BillCheddar@lemmy.world
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    23 days ago

    There are 212 Democrats in the House and you’re blaming all of them for the actions of 4 of them.

    You are literally no different than the conservatives who blame all black people for crime based on some small percentage of the group who commits a crime. Same argument.

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      22 days ago

      not even remotely the same thing as systemic racism lol. also theres way more than just those 4, those 4 are sacrificial lambs chosen by Hakeem, hes also one. theres at least dozen plus of Dinos.

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      23 days ago

      It’s a memes page, you’re not supposed to think about it being political propaganda, you’re supposed to laugh and be propagandized without realizing it.

    • Hakim Jeffries refused to say in an interview DSA has a place in the Democratic party, and then had a picnic with Jared Kushner. That’s the Democratic leadership colluding with the faction that literally seeks to unmake democracy in the US.

      So yeah, I think there’s legitimate cause for DSA to be a bit cross.

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      22 days ago

      you’re blaming all of them for the actions of 4 of them.

      Yes. Because the other 208 spent the last few decades setting a norm in which 4 of them thought that it would be a perfectly ok thing to do without being ejected from the party. Any of the 208 who don’t take action now are complicit in their silence.

      Your analogy is specious because black individuals don’t automatically bear the responsibility to distance themselves from other black individuals who commit crimes, but becoming an elected representative of a party does VERY much come with the responsibility to make sure your party doesn’t get infiltrated by corrupt politicians on the payroll of foreign powers.

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    23 days ago

    The Democrats are generally pro capitalism. They’re just, currently, less aggressively racist and sexist and stupid. They should be the right wing party. The Republicans should be in jail.

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      22 days ago

      from the outside they are pretty right wing, i think people inside the us, are convinced(not all of them) that they are left wing.

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        Well let’s not say anything too outrageous here. They need to be tried in a court first, convicted, which should be a slam dunk, then imprisoned for life or executed. We still have laws, its just that no one has been following those laws-- from either party, or in the supreme court, so we’ll need the ICC’s help to sort this especially as it involves crimes against humanity. We need to sign onto that court. We already had US laws against shipping weapons to genocidal regimes before this all started and that didnt stop either party. The dems who allowed those shipments should be in chains and awaiting their day in court right next to trumps war criminal cabal. Theres still a way out of all of this, although I dont have much faith that our country will find its way toward actual honorable justice.

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          It’s not outrageous. It’s what The Constitution dictates for High Treason and Sedition. Which I argue the Republicans are guilty of and then some.

          Republicans deserving execution should be the default position at this point, we should normalize it.

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      23 days ago

      For some reason, AIPAC decided to be against socialism too. I’m sure they yelling “and stay poor you peasants!” is a very productive complement to their main goal of assuring every Palestine is dead.

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      23 days ago

      From Wikipedia:

      Gottheimer’s net worth was between $16.9 and $75.3 million in 2023, and he and his wife Marla Tusk, who is general counsel at the political consulting firm Tusk Strategies, reported $897,617 in joint income

      AIPAC isnt the only reason.

    • VinegarChunks@lemmus.org
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      22 days ago

      TF do people expect the minority party to do to stop the party with majorities in all three branches of government?

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        A war powers resolution has been passed, meaning the war in Iran is unconstitutional based on a plain face reading of the constitution that a third grader could understand.

        Why are democrats not suing the administration to stop the war? Why are they not making a bigger deal that that this war is unconstitutional in the media? Why are they wasting time misrepresenting Hasan Piker and undermining Abdul El-Sayed? A Senator they need if they want a majority to stop this administration.

        Conservative Democrats had legislative trifecta just a few years ago. Biden did not replace postmaster Dejoy despite having the authority to do so. Which has made it easier for Trump to undermine mail in ballots.

        They also didn’t prosecute Donald Trump for inciting the January 6 insurrection. I could go on about the failures of the Biden administration and the Democrats 2021-2025…

        …But long story short, Conservative Democrats had their shot, they lost. Now when we tell them to do their fucking job as an opposition party you try act like there’s nothing they can do.

        Are you pretending there’s nothing they can do because you don’t understand the basic function of an opposition party in liberal democracy or because you’re a fascist collaborator?

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        22 days ago

        Use every procedural trick in the book to delay, deny, frustrate. Deny the abusive majority the semblance of normality they rely on to do business as usual.

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        Campaign against Trump and fascist Republicans instead of holding hands with them? Because you know, that’s what opposition parties ought to do? I’m sorry to say this but Americans are brainwashed by corporate media about dEcOrUm and reaching across the aisle, because it tames the masses from mobilising and recognising that both parties are captured and strung by corporate oligarchs. At least more and more progressive Americans are waking up from the silly corporate narratives and primarying corporate Democrats with progressives.

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        Don’t pretend like you don’t remember the Democrats wringing their hands every time they had majorities, and saying they couldn’t do anything or had to heavily compromise because of this or that single person.

        The last one was Joe Machin. “Oh! Guys. So sorry. We would totally help the people, but we can’t do anything because of jOe mAnChIn!” They always have a scapegoat.

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          My favorite was the parliamentarian. The one who is an advisor and can be overruled at any time.

          What can democracy do, the parliamentarian has rendered government powerless to act. *shrug

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        22 days ago

        Maybe not collaborate with fascists? Maybe give a crap about their own voters? Is that a lot to ask?

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        22 days ago

        Are you kidding? Or are you just too young to remember Obama having all three branches and still completely failing to get the public healthcare policy that he’d campaigned on and had massive public mandate for?

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      Yep but they roll out all the dirty tricks during primaries. Everything from fake mailers to outright racism to fake identity politics bs, depending on which individual progressive they’re trying to sabotage.

      But as soon as it’s the general, it’s all about taking the high road. Fucking traitors

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    23 days ago

    “We can’t fight fascists! Fascists fight back! Best we can do is keep attacking this Strawman.”