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Because the dry outer skin is a rich red colour
… No? It’s still typically a shade of purple…
why do we call green grapes white
Or purple grapes red?
(I’m guessing due to the type of wine they make)
Table grapes have learned from the chameleon.
Grapes don’t make wine, silly. They’re inert.
Source?!
when i say “red grapes,” i’m always referring to the ones that are actually red because they have the most satisfying snap when you eat them.
Don’t even get me started on ‘white’ people.
Meanwhile stupid USians subscribe to the literal 19th-century ‘scientific racism’ theory that has ‘Caucasian people’ as something other than deeply tan skin that Caucasian people actually have.
They also don’t look at the last half of the word too closely.
You mean the word ‘Caucasian‘? Sorry, but that’s probably unrelated to ‘Asia’. Folk etymology is fun, but always falls apart in practice.
Half the Caucasus mountains are in asia.
What Caucasus are you on about?
They mean etymologically. Asians are from Asia, not “Asus”.
Who calls green grapes white…?
Never heard that happen
Might be different in other languages, but English usually divides grapes into red and white for color.
Which part of the world are you from? I’m in Canada, and we call them green grapes and red grapes
https://www.safeway.com/shop/aisles/fruits-vegetables/fresh-fruits/grapes.html?sort=&page=1&loc=3132
Meanwhile Wikipedia notes ‘“Black” (dark blue) and “white” (light green) table grapes’
US. When I go to my local grocery store, they’re categorized under white or red.
At least for white, that is indeed how the English Wikipedia classifies different grape cultivars, even ones that aren’t intended to make wine. Black is new to me though.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sultana_(grape)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Almeria_(grape)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italia_(grape)
Might just be that my grocery store is real local and they do it differently. I try to avoid large chains. But I’ve always understood white and red to be the technical classifiers of grapes, and the actual color you see with your eyes varies.
I’m also from a wine-producing region, so maybe that has something to do with it as well.
The fuck it does
White Wine
Pink balls
We’re talking about grapes?
That’s only because the wine is whitish. Nobody calls the grapes themselves white. And she squeeze the juice out the juice isn’t the same color as the skin. I’ve never heard anyone refer a grapes as white grapes
In English, grapes are green or red.
Wine is not a grape. White wine and red wine refers to the color of the wine. Nobody calls vodka golden because it came from a potato.
two examples: white wine, white grape juice. both are very common. seems to refer to the juice color, not the color of the grape skins.
when they’re made into raisins, they’re called golden raisins. so “white” isn’t even the only one.
Never heard about green grapes. Here in Germany they are called “white grapes” and EN-Wikipedia is also calling them that in english. We are also talking it “white wine” and so on.
From what I know, it has to do with the word red covering the purple part of the spectrum long ago, and the “need” for the word purple came out later but purple things that were named red didn’t get renamed.
You can look at japanese right now and 青い covers both blue and green, with a relatively recent addition of 緑 to cover only green (thus possibly pushing 青い in the future to be only blue, who knows)
Similarly, the red fox is clearly orange, but English speakers were exposed to that species of fox before developing a word for that specific color. For bonus linguistical oddities, ‘orange’ was used for the fruit before it was used for the color.
Or the red squirrel, which is brown.
And red hair.
And the fruit’s name is different from other countries’ names for it because “a naranj” was misheard as “an orange” and it stuck. Yellow-red wasn’t much adopted, though it did exist. Such is language, what a fun collective hallucination.
Well whys it called Shepherds Pie when it doesnt contain shepherds, or Cottage Pie when its nothing to do with cottages or cottagimg? How about that one…checkmate!!!
And baby powder is never powdered babies!
I was similarly let down.
Oh shit! Shouldn’t have made my own. Although it is quite good sprinkled on my salad…
I already knew this about colors (it’s also why “redheads” have orange hair) but I recently dug more into how the musical spectrum and how tones are defined is very similar in it’s cultural variance. Another thing is how the cardinal directions are divided radially and how time is counted. Shit counting bases even, most of the imperial measurements are based on either base 12 or base 16 math.
Wild to think that something you grew up with as a fundamental fact of the world might actually be super culturally subjective.
Yes, the word for greenery/foliage, 青葉, translates to “blue leaves”
Also the green traffic light is called blue
I’ve found the color in a things name usually points to what color dye you can extract from it.
Because calling them blue onions would be weird.
isn’t that what they call them in germany
No. We call them red too
many more foods are described as blue in southern Germany. Notably, blue onions, blue grapes, and blue cabbage
I grew up in southern Germany and have never heard anyone call those things blue. I’ve heard of Blaukraut from the tongue twister and been told that it’s a different word for Rotkohl but that’s it.
I spent way too much time sitting in the backseat looking out the window on long family drives wondering why the fuck they kept referring to the orange cheddar cheese as “yellow” cheese. Still kind of annoys me today after decades of getting older and settling down a bit.
Because ‘orange’ was covered by the word ‘yellow’ until that pesky fruit made it to England and became fashionable.
We call them purple in Spanish… English has brain damage as per usual.
That’s weird, I would have thought you’d call them morado in Spanish.
According to someone up thread, it’s morada, so I’m guessing onions are female in Spanish?
I love them but they make me cry so this checks out.
Nobody tell them about red cabbage
In Spanish we actually call them “cebolla morada” that means purple onion :D
I’m bilingual and I always forget which language calls it which, so I get confused looks from everyone.
JAJAJJAJAJAJJA yep it has happened to me
There’s a joke in Bulgarian somewhat related to that. What’s commonly referred to as a prune plum we call something that roughly translates to “blue plum”. The joke goes something like this:
– Dad, what’s this?
– It’s a blue plum.
– Why is it red?
– Because it’s green.
Language is weird, but it’s ironic that our use of it makes it so.
I AM AN ADULT!
Sorry to hear, me too… lets do taxes
It refers to the communism of the onions
Like ogres?
We’re all pink on the inside
I don’t know if this has anything to do with it, but it’s a cool read nonetheless.
https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/a71442895/purple-is-fake-research/
I’m crying
We call em Spanish Onions round these parts
If thats the US (southern drawal accent-typing)… No they arent. Spanish onions are vadalia onions that arent grown specifically in Vadalia, Georgia. Theyre the “sparkling wine, not champagne” of onions
Australia
That’s whack. Spanish Onions refer to something completely different in most places.
