• Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
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    28 days ago

    Republicans have never forgiven Alan Turing, and much prefer the contributions of IBM during the same period.

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    28 days ago

    I feel like this isn’t super new. You haven’t been able to do things like talk academically about network security or cryptography without being incredibly critical of government for decades.

    My professors sure were. I felt really bad for them, honestly. They were the driving force to make philosophy and ethics courses mandatory at my university in order to recieve a comp sci degree.

    “If you work in these areas long enough, at a high enough level, you WILL be asked to compromise something for the benefit of a state actor, and you might not even realize it’s happening. The person asking you to do it might not even realize what is really happening.” Was what our prof told a packed lecture hall.

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      27 days ago

      When I was at Uni, we had a mandatory Ethics class for Comp Sci/Comp Eng. I think it was for all majors under the Sciences banner.

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      27 days ago

      This is pretty much my inspiration for self hosting. A three letter agency needs to infiltrate my network or show up to my house with a warrant. I’m not going to be able to stop them, but at least they’ll have to work for it. I’d love a CSI Miami’s episode level of effort for them to discover that I’m just a fucking nerd sharing Linux ISOs.

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        27 days ago

        This made me image an exchange like

        Agent 1: OK McNulty, you have finished your forensic scan of that scumbag’s computer. I can’t wait to hear whether we are taking this monster down for espionage, stealing classified information, or even just another copyright infringement case. What is really in that folder of “Linux ISOs?”

        Agent 2: You are not gonna believe this…

    • Dejected Warp Core@lemmy.world
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      27 days ago

      civil engineer […] didn’t know what gentrification was…

      Sweet jebus on ice-skates. The guy was potentially a literal if not figurative architect in service of one of the most profound mechanisms of gentrification and hadn’t heard of it?! That’s like designing cars and being unaware of traffic jams and induced demand.

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      28 days ago

      Isn’t it funny how people who “have things” are less likely to be all that interested in leftism. And those who don’t have “things” look at them, want more leftism because they want want the “things” the people who have “things” and they don’t have.

      And neither side understands the other.

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        27 days ago

        What do you mean?

        I have more things than I could ever want.

        I want more agency.

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        27 days ago

        I have plenty of things, and still support pretty left wing ideas (except for the violence that some people here seem think is required to be considered left).

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        Isn’t it funny how people who “have food” are less likely to be all that interested in leftism. And those who don’t have “food” look at them, want more leftism because they want want the “food” the people who have “food” and they don’t have.

        It’s still garbled, but makes a better point.

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          27 days ago

          Your edit makes a good insinuation “they’re just things” people think objects are frivolous things that tie you down because they’ve never experienced genuine lack.

          Not like lack of toys, but the bear necessities of survival.

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            27 days ago

            The basic necessities should just be provided, by that I mean food and shelter and basic medical care. If people want to live luxuriously that’s fantatic, going and toiling, innovating or improving their situation in someway should be encouraged; but no one should ever be shelterless and hungry.

        • BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          27 days ago

          I just want to be able to live life as carefree as they can without regards to money. It’s a bit of jealousy but it’s not the overriding reason for it.

        • dreamy (she/her)@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          27 days ago

          That leftism is a product of ressentiment from people who don’t have “things” against people who have “things”, I guess. ContraPoints-level take tbh.

          I hate billionaires, not because I want to be a miserable sociopath with too much money, but because they are largely the reason that any kind of improvement to our planet and species is being blocked. I support socialized healthcare, not because I envy those who have the money to pay for live-saving healthcare, but because I don’t want to fucking die, etc. etc.

          There certainly are people like BadEmpanada, who oppose unions and welfare so that “first-worlders can suffer”, but they certainly don’t reflect what leftism is in general.

          BE


          • mobyduck648@lemmy.world
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            27 days ago

            I agree, and I’d add it’s not even a specifically left wing impulse either. The Roman Republic of all institutions was deeply concerned with the idea that republics shouldn’t have private princes as well as kings. The fact the Roman Republic failed to contain its oligarchy to the point of fundamental destabilisation into arbitrary power is evidence people ought to pay attention to left wingers when they say the same thing about billionaires and the concentration of wealth.

          • Homosexual sapiens@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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            27 days ago

            BE on twitter and BE while actually speaking seriously are like two different people. He seems to have an unhealthy addiction to creating twitter ragebate. I would not take it literally.

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        27 days ago

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_theory

        There are different forms but it’s basically getting woke to class struggle between people who own shit and rent it out and people who get paid a bit to use the shit, but never actually get to own real shit or control what shit they decide to do.

        I’m putting it pretty bluntly and pretty woke…ly, and a lil but Marxly. It’s also about analyzing systems we use to organise ourselves and what they do to us. Basically how to get people to actually wake up to how and why things are how they are and maybe how they could be different / better.

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          In the context of STEM students who focus on inputs, outputs, and engines at the expense of considering societal impacts (or simply telling themselves it’s the job of poor humanities students to get elected and pass laws to constrain the most egregious negative externalities of technology) it’s asking who an efficiency is for. Efficiency cannot exist in a moral vacuum. As Kim Stanley Robinson summarized in The Ministry for the Future (2020):

          … there is good efficiency and bad efficiency, good inefficiency and bad inefficiency. … preventative health care saves enormous amounts in medical costs later, and is a good efficiency. Eating your extra children (this is Swift’s character’s “modest proposal”) would be a bad efficiency. Any harm to people for profit is likewise bad, no matter how efficient. Using an over-sized vehicle to get from point A to point B is a bad inefficiency, and there are many more like it; but oxbows in a river, defining a large flood plain, is a good inefficiency

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    27 days ago

    Not sure what the discussion was, but, I recall they changed terms like Master/slave a few years back (maybe in the linux kernel), to make things nicer. I have no problem with this (not a big deal).

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    28 days ago

    I’ve seen a world where access to knowledge and power is paywalled. And I’ve seen the one where that freedom is a granted right. I know which one I picked, and it’s because SO HELP ME, IF I CAN’T FIX IT MYSELF, I WILL BREAK IT MYSELF!

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    28 days ago

    I guess in an introduction course they would start with history of computing, and that VERY OFTEN gets a bit political.

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      28 days ago

      Even just the facts are incredibly “woke” leaning unless you just boil everything down to a single sentence factoid and dont go into much detail

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            28 days ago

            What kind of an ego do you have to have to think you know everything about science, so you write a textbook, and when you get to electricity, you don’t know anything about it, but since you know everything about everything, if you don’t know anything about electricity, that means nobody else does, either?

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                27 days ago

                If that’s real I assume it’s less that they don’t believe in electricity or even that they don’t understand it. Probably more “portray difficult concepts as magical so that the idea of blind faith isn’t so difficult to digest” kind of intellectual dishonesty

                That’s if it’s real though and not a nonsense meme to generate outrage. Highly sus that a book title isn’t mentioned

                • Emerald (she/her)@lemmy.world
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                  The book title is mentioned in the meme. It’s Science 4 for Christian Schools. I got it from Anna and that page is in there.

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            Pretty sure anyone who’s ever grabbed a live wire has felt electricity. I guess you could argue you’re still only feeling what it does, but that’s like arguing you only feel what a punch in the face does…

  • w3dd1e@lemmy.zip
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    27 days ago

    What is the saying? Something about people who learn about how technology works begin to shun technology?

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    29 days ago

    Well, programming lessons taught in 2016 are still pretty much going to teach programming now, so it shouldn’t be too hard if you put your mind to it.