• iatenine@piefed.social
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    The fact they’ve graduated from a “talking stick” to rearranging the furniture and trading sides of the couch between responses was prob an early warning sign

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      My wife is currently breeding an army of factory workers for me in exchange for a ton of ammo and raw materials in Palworld.

    • TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world
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      Some of us have dated dozens of people and never met one what enjoys or is OK with video games.

      women who enjoy video games are not exactly abundant.

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          that you are lucky and statistically that isn’t an option for most folks.

          I’d love to date a woman who mountain bikes. The ratio of women to men in mountain biking is about 100 to 1, far worse than video games. my chances of finding a lady who wants to do that with me is astonishingly low.

          however what is very common, is for meet a woman who lectures me on how stupid and dangerous and dumb mountain biking is and that i should stop doing it. that’s like 1/4 ladies I meet.

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              It’s not fine. and it is a pandemic, due to the hyper fueled social media gender war bullshit that so many single people consume. it’s also escalating. 10 years ago nobody was, on a first date, telling me in my face what a piece of shit I was to my face for not having a high enough salary for them, when my salary is higher than theirs, now that’s like every 4th woman I meet, and pretty much every other woman i meet demands to know my ‘stats’ off the bat.

              it is not a small subset of women at all, it’s the vast majority of dating profiles I see who loudly and proudly declare their sexist double standards and abusive behaviors. men, at least, get called out and socially punished for it, women, get celebrated and their victims get punished and called out. women’s abuse and violence towards men is considered ‘corrective’ or ‘justice’. this morning I must have swiped left like 30 times alone, simple due to toxic sexist weird shit on profiles.

              the small subset is the women who aren’t toxic, who actually take accountability for their emotions and their actions, and actually communicate with their partners. and who have realistic expectations for their lives, rather than being perpetually embittered their life isn’t a social media reel. and they aren’t on the dating market because they are largely coupled up. I meet many nice women at events this way, but they are never single. The single ones are the ones who are in the corner, and act with hostility and snide remarks if you try to interact with them, so you leave them alone.

              in the past 5 years I’ve only had like 1-2 normal nice dates (who were not american btw), the majority were one flavor of hostile and angry or another, who absolutely blamed me or other men for their ‘unhappiness’, which really is a product of their their own poor choices and shallow pursuits. But you can’t call them out, so you just sit there, listen to them rant, and say ‘thanks, hope you find someone nice’ and then they scream at you or sometimes attempt to hit or throw something at you. because HOW DARE YOU REJECT THEM, they are suppose to reject you you worthless man!

              That said, 10-15 years ago, the majority of my dates were nice and normal folks. But that was also before social media warped everyone’s brains. Things didn’t used to be like this, but now everyone is so drugged up on rage and hostility and hate, well that’s all they can see in the world and all they bring to it. And I, for one, want nothing to do with that shit.

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            Given the ratio you’ve listed, it should be extremely easy to find women into mountain biking. Though I suspect you meant the inverse of what you said.

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            Yeah, that sucks, man. I mean, it is a dangerous hobby, my nephew is really into mountain biking and I keep hearing about his hilarious but serious injuries.

            However, if you love it, like you clearly do, that’s just part of the game. It’s not surprising that you have trouble finding a gf who can be okay with that part, and ideally you would indeed want someone who you can worry about equally because she keeps falling off mountains and breaking ribs or getting concussions or whatever.

      • Grail@multiverse.soulism.net
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        I’ve dated lots of trans girls who play video games.

        If you want a girlfriend who does a “boy hobby” (as toy companies would put it), you need to find a culturally liberated woman. Someone strong willed and independent, who values action and choice. You know, a woke woman.

        Find yourself a gal with blue hair and pronouns and you’ll have a gamer gf.

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    My ex tried this shit with me talking to any women. I had never, even once, given her any hint of inpropriety.

    I ended it there, that day, and just stayed single for the next year or so.

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        Had a friend who’s wife started assuming he was cheating or trying to cheat with any other woman in his life. It was very extreme. Like - he once held the door open for a random woman entering a restaurant and she started accusing the woman of being a whore.

        He ended up staying with her for a few more years because their daughter was 16 and he didn’t want to end up paying child support, and when they split up the 18yo daughter moved in with him.

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            It was shortly after covid that she went kinda crazy, so I’ve wondered if she had some long-covid issues.

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              Oh probably not even that. I know a few people that had the psychological whiplash of going from being able to pretend that they were safe and bad things happened to Other People, to InVisIBle THinGs aRe OuT tO gEt mE!!!

              And so they went antivax or some other psycho mindset

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                i lost two friends this way. went from cool people to being psychos post covid.

                before i blocked them they would spam my IG feed with anti-vax and other conspiracy nonsense, and ended up adopting like multiple animals and going on rants about how men are awful. sad, and so fucking cliche.

                i mean, yeah the dudes they dated were awful, and i often told them that over the years, but they never listened.

      • TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world
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        yeah, i have met women who make this a requirement to date them. it’s not common but it exists.

        you basically can’t interact with any other women than your family. because so much as smiling at a woman cashier at the grocery store is cheating. it’s really not about that though, it’s about their need to control you to feel secure.

        it also is almost always a double standard, because that rule doesn’t apply to her talking to men.

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          Yeah. That kind of mindset is tragic, because it’s hard to live like that but it’s also so toxic that it pushes away anybody who might be able to help.

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          Yeah had woman like that. Cashier hand touch mind handing me my change at the grocery store. I ended it that day because she filp out over it.

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            Was driving and glanced at something in my peripheral, barely even registered what I was seeing before a shrill “SHEES FOUURTEEEEEEEENNN” blistered through my ear drums from the passengers seat.

            Like I could have understood that reaction if I was legit checking out some 14yo girl but like I was just driving and watching out for pedestrians.

            Tragically miserable human being that taught me a lot of life lessons the hard way.

      • rumba@lemmy.zip
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        A downward spiral that ended more or less there.

        We had been together for a couple years, long distance. she was a couple months from moving back.

        Start of conversation, I say: Kate said that the renfest tickets were about to go on sale

        Who’s Kate.

        Kate at work, there’s a crew that goes every year, we should go.

        What else do you and Kate talk about?

        Devolves into wanting an index of female friends and leading questions of if they are nice…

        Mind you, we’d not been fighting; I was always accountable and on time. We had just spent most of a week together.

        Near the end, she made it an “it’s either me or her…”

        Kate is gay… I could have went down that path, But at this point, “woah woah woah, give me your key, we’re done”

        I never regretted that.

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    I would never date an extrovert or someone with no hobbies for exactly this reason. They need you to entertain them or they throw a fit.

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      Big yep. Partner ≠ 24-hour therapist. If you can’t be alone with your thoughts, you aren’t working on your shit, and shouldn’t inflict it on someone else just because they’re there.

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      This is so true.

      Choosing my introverted life partner was the best choice I ever made. Or the best choice they ever made for me…or somewhere in between. But great choice, all around.

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    This is a reasonable response, however if his habits are inhibiting his lifestyle then she has every right to bring it up as an issue.

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      It’s not a reasonable response at all. It’s unhealthy AF.

      If the partner is prioritizing games over their relationship or responsibilities, and is making the other feel like they have to compete for attention and time with their partners habits or addiction. The affected partner hss every right to desire to leave that relationship because their needs are not being met in that relationship.

      This is what the ultimatum is targeting. His response being intentionally obtuse and flipping it back around to the partner whose needs are likely not being met in their relationship being the problem is extremely toxic and manipulative.

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        no, that’s your interpretation of it. which is mostly projection and your identification of the two people as being ‘good’ and ‘bad’.

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        The whole real men don’t play video games is also unhealthy nonsense constantly pushed by toxic members of our society

        https://www.aol.com/articles/dating-coach-reveals-why-video-181930000.html

        Honestly this is a contrived conversation, but I don’t think the guys answer is that far off of a healthy response. It is important to shutdown this type of behavior when it happens.

        https://blog.couplestherapistla.com/ultimatums-dont-work-do-this-instead/

        She would be much better off just saying, “When you ignore me or your chores by playing video games it makes me feel like you don’t care about the work it takes to maintain our home and relationship.”

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          what a awful shitty lady.

          half the women on my dating app matches love golf. it’s incredibly popular right now. it’s the new climbing gym.

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            Without more context she could definitely be shitty or as the poster I responded to said, it could be a toxic response if he is actually ignoring his chores and the relationship by playing games.

            I am probably making more out of it than it is though and overthinking things.

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        I like how everyone is inventing a scenario to fit the two lines of dialogue and claiming it’s this or that.

        There’s no way to definitely say if it’s reasonable or not because they guy could be prioritizing gaming over his life and relationship or the lady could just be embarrassed that she is dating a guy with “immature” hobbies and he may be very regulated about the time spent gaming.

        In one scenario it’s reasonable in the other it’s not.

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          people are confirming their biases via projection, often into extreme scenarios because those are more emotionally vivid and dramatic, than more mundane ones.

          If the two characters were a gay couple you’d see very different replies, and probably a lot more light hearted ones, but a lot fewer of them.

          but this one nicely plays into the ‘men who play video games are awful and terrible people’ trope, especially with the headline inciting that the male is the mature one here.

          and for some folks in relationships, they MUST be the victim, no matter what. those were my favorite breakups, the classic ‘i am doing this but it’s hurting me more than you so therefore i’m the real victim’ nonsense. classic! you can bet some posters who think that way are totally triggered by any suggestion they might be the problematic one.

          plus you know, the weirdos who just have an irrational hatred for people who play video games and think they are all depraved jobless man children who goon to anime girls all day.

          anyway, it’s fun because so many folks tell on themselves without realizing it, when you put up these kind of relationship Rorschach tests.

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        Lots of assumptions being made when it could just as easily be someone upset that he dares spend an hour or two on the weekends gaming with buddies

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      Yeah, it’s obviously framed like this to dunk on the non-gamer for being goofy, but the reality is (most of the time) someone forcing an ultimatum like this is doing is because every other method failed. So, it’s hard for me to see this anything other than a sort of power fantasy. I’m not sure what to call it. An “I’m right” fantasy? A high-horse fantasy? Not sure.

      And the frustrating this is that goofy posts like this hide this so well, because yes, ultimatums are generally bad, but if you point out something like that, they’ll just say something like the non-gamer just jumped to the ultimatum with no warning… But… It’s just a single panel. There’s literally nothing else.

      Idk, it’s just weird to me. Also feels a little misogynistic.

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    I feel like the whole situation would not even happen if they had a healthy relationship, as in discussing their feelings.

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    lol @ the comments are arguing about the speculative context for this conversation. Either one of these fictional people could be unreasonable given different context.

    Yall are telling on your own insecurities.

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      Obviously the woman has cancer and has only a week to live, but the husband is a world class esports athlete and he promised an entire ward of kids with cancer that he’d win the championship.

      But the husband has cancer too and this is the last time that he can play before his eyes need to be surgically removed. But he doesn’t know that his wife made a deal with the devil, if she can get the husband to stop playing games then Satan will erase cancer from the world and the entire ward of children will be instantly healed.

      But if her husband finds out about this deal he will instantly kill everyone. This is a very complex situation.

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        This is a little far-fetched.

        The man comes from a long-line of noble gamers and is merely upholding the traditional values he was raised on, lest he distress the spirits of his ancestors. The woman was raised by puritan chess masters during the castle siege of Fort Boyard and views the world only under the paranoid lens of allegiance/betrayal.

        It’s a simple culture clash that likely leads to some interesting bedtime shenanigans that gets them both off, e.g. Lockpicking a chastity belt whilst she eggs him on in French

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      it’s a satire on how women are demanding and expect men to change–even when they know the man’s flaws or vices beforehand–but men basically just expect a woman to be around. it’s an empowering fantasy. the reality is that the man would give up video games or play in secrecy because the alternative is to be lonely or pay child support.

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    … Why are we making up scenarios to feel vindicated about literal fictions that we established in the first place?

    Literally who is this for and in what way is this remotely memetic?

    This just feels like the kind of cheap dunking on women shit you see all over reddit in the gross right winger cesspool subs.

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      This could literally be a conversation with my friends right now. (The issue not the words used here)

      So much so that I will NOT be sharing this with them or I risk adding fuel to the fire

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      Honestly? I think how you see it depends on your lived experience; almost every man has had a partner complain about their hobby (gaming especially); a lot get ultimatums and have lived in that cycle of abuse. A lot of it is rooted in partnership ideals where only the emotional wellbeing of the woman matters - the kind of toxic nonsense we all want shut of I’d say.