• Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works
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    19 days ago

    I don’t know how anyone can extrapolate from these aggregate reviews. Taste in art is so personal. I find these utterly useless. Personalized movielens ratings are a little helpful at least.

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    20 days ago

    But people don’t know anything and you should form an opinion of your own. Even if it’s a garbage opinion everyone else hates.

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        20 days ago

        We’re talking about movies.

        If someone watches LOTR and goes “what a stupid movie, they retconned the wizard dying — he didn’t even cast fireball — and why didn’t they just ride the eagles like badasses” nothing I say will make them like it, but it is a garbage opinion they formed themselves (hypothetically… I made this up)

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        20 days ago

        Sometimes racism is a collection of unfortunate priors.

        More often, it’s just cultural alienation supercharged with an advertising budget.

        In the end, having your own view - even if it’s unpopular or outright wrong - is better than letting your understanding be shaped by someone else’s marketing budget.

  • 4grams@awful.systems
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    19 days ago

    I never look at reviews, I just go in expecting to be disappointed and so usually am not. Even shitty movies are fun since I plan on them sucking…

    Update- saw it last night. A bit of a mess, but interesting and enjoyable. I like how it was a retelling of the story but connected it with modern themes. I enjoyed very much the diverse cast, I like performances, and appreciate various takes on the roles from performers with different backgrounds. Dialog was a bit wooden in places, especially the last line, but it was a show, not a documentary so I don’t mind a little ham-fistedness.

    The best part was the Trojan Horse portrayal. My whole life I’ve seen the cartoons of a horse rolled up to the gate, and a simple telling of how they were tricked. This put the human cost of it into perspective (the fictional human cost anyway), and the stuggle with how it unfolded by Odysseus. Made me think about it more than I ever have, and from a new perspective.

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    20 days ago

    What’s really crazy to me is with movies like that that get drug through the social media culture war bullshit, all the people arguing about “how they should have made the movie” never seem to realize that they don’t get a choice about how anybody makes their movie. The movie-makers choose how they make their own movies, not the culture warriors or critics.

    People should really back off and shut up about it all. “They should have done this, and the ending was all wrong” and so on. We don’t get a say in any of that. We just get to view the art that artists have created, and you can like it or not like it. That’s it.

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        19 days ago

        Some do and some don’t. Some filmmakers even choose to self-fund and make their movies however they want.

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        19 days ago

        Is that what I said? Nope, read it again.

        The general point was the public’s perceived entitlement that their opinion matters in how movies are made, while they are not involved in any of those decisions in reality.

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          If people are paying money for movie tickets, they are purchasing a product. Yes, their opinion on a product they paid hard earned money for matters.

          If admission to a movie were free, then I might agree with you. But if people are paying for something, then it’s a product. If anything it’s Hollywood assholes that have a screwed up sense of entitlement in this scenario. It’s just another instance of wealthy people not appreciating the people who buy their products.

  • Cypress@lemmy.zip
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    20 days ago

    If there’s a movie I don’t like,
    and I see the rating site consensus showing “low critic score + high audience score”,
    THAT is more likely to convince me than anything else to re-evaluate my opinion.

    And if there’s a movie I DO like,
    But it gets an AWFUL audience rating despite high praise from the professional critics,
    That will ACTUALLY make me second guess and wonder if I’m wrong about how good I thought it was.

    I fucking hate the professional critic grift ._.

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    20 days ago

    Nope, because most people share their thought with friends and family. Don’t care what stranger say on internet. And most of the time even don’t know those websites.

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    20 days ago

    Seeing it on Sunday!

    I do have an issue with the amount of stars in the movie, especially Zendaya, but I’ll try to keep an open mind.

    I don’t care about the historical accuracy or the racial makeup of the cast, all I care about is whether it’s a movie I enjoy watching.

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      especially Zendaya

      She’s a stellar actress and a smokeshow.

      I’m more annoyed that they included Matt Damon in the leading role. That guy’s been washed for years.

      I don’t care about the historical accuracy or the racial makeup

      I do think it’s very funny to be mad about Elliot Page for being transgender when I’d be more upset that he’s got zero tan in a movie about rugged sea faring people just north of Egypt.

      Like so much Sword and Sandal that Hollywood produces, it’s way too white. Maybe make more movies that take place in the Baltics if you want to use this many Brits, Franks, and Nords.

  • jsheradin@fedia.io
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    Historically I never had the patience but I’ve watched a ton of movies over the past couple years (easily 300+) and initially I agreed with audience rating. Although I’m far from an insufferable cinephile and really don’t care about underlying theory and whatnot, I definitely find myself agreeing more with critic rating now. Of course there’s plenty of exceptions where I disagreed with both. Movies can be fun or awful for you regardless of what anyone else thinks.

    That being said, I think Roger Ebert’s reviews usually nail it. That man was a connoisseur of weird enjoyable movies and quick to call out corporate crap.

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      19 days ago

      As much as certain people like to proclaim reviewers are paid shills or sycophants, especially whenever a movie with diversity cast does well… The audience metric is nigh on useless half of the time.

      Look at that Melania movies critic and audience score. Then see a genuinely great movie with some non white person cast in a main role get review bombed to hell and back by the same people

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      19 days ago

      I’ve been with this in video games too.

      I spot it with Ubisoft. The entire audience is primed to the idea Ubisoft = Open World = Slop which is sometimes true but many levels of disingenuous. Ubi has some pretty good writers that have made some enjoyable characters, though they’re often muddled by the need to build 80 hours of content. So when a Ubisoft game gets good reviews (not often) everyone feels it was paid off and that it’s laden with microtransactions. Meanwhile I’ll be like “If I literally wanted to burn money on this game I wouldn’t even know which menu it’s in…”

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    19 days ago

    I love Man of Steel, needed a bit better editing (because his conflict between helping humanity or not is undermined by pretty early on by helping those offshore workers) but otherwise I think it’s a pretty good movie.