• HrabiaVulpes@europe.pub
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    Poor people shouldn’t segregate trash, shouldn’t collect bottles etc.

    Instead cheapest products should be biodegradable, wrapped in something that can’t last shit, transported only by ships and trains. It’s the companies who profit from selling products that should be held responsible for the product eco footprint.

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    So here’s the thing: when the next heatwave struct it’s not Infatino’s kids that will sit in a 40 degree classroom and cry for their moms, your kids will. When the next forest fire raises some village it’s not Infatino that will be left homeless, you will. When drought hits they will not cut water to Inantino’s home, they will cut your water.

    Infantino doesn’t care about his carbon footprint because whatever happens he will be fine. It’s all of us, poor people, that will suffer the consequences. Not limiting your emissions because “the rich are not doing their part” will only hurt you, not the rich.

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        Yes, go for it. They have huge resources they can spend on security and the state will protects them with everything they have but I’m sure you, ordinary citizen, can “hurt” them. And once they are “hurt” they will voluntarily relinquish their wealth and power and start working with you to stop climate change. I’m sure of it.

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          we got 8 hour workdays because we bust into their homes and looted them and shot them in the foot

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    Yes, he’s a wasteful, elitist asshole, but still keep on recycling. Better yet, stop using plastic bottles altogether, and get a reusable bottle which you can refill. The best ones are thermally insulated, so you can put hot or cold drinks with ice in them, so they stay hot or cool for hours, and have drink spouts on them.

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      Just avoid like the plague brands that sponsor World Cups.

      I’ve been doing it since the last one in Qatar (because of the slave-like conditions for workers there) and am doing it for the current one also (because, well, mass-murdering Fascists supporting the XXI century version of the Nazis whilst they activelly mass-murder children because of the “crime” of not being White Jews).

      As it so happens, a happy side effect is often that not consuming products of those brands (which are invariably large brands) means you produce less disposable stuff and/or consume more local products. You even end up saving money because you either stop consuming something that you don’t actually need or you replace it with a store brand, and those are cheaper.

      Win-win-win.

    • zr0@lemmy.dbzer0.comBanned
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      Only because of my infant, I was researching proper, reusable bottles. I came across Pura and also ordered one for me. I absolutely love it. Replaceable/interchangable parts, using nothing but stainless steel and medical grade silicone.

      https://www.purastainless.com/

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      I used one for some coffee and a few popsicles and all I got was coffee that tasted awful and had popsicle sticks floating around in it.

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        I suggest that you try the coffee and the Popsicles separately next time.

        Also, not so great for Popsicles. Better for beverages, generally speaking.

    • gex@lemmy.world
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      Hank Green did a video inspired by a similar meme after the Blue Origin rocket explosion. He acknowledged that plastic recycling isn’t great, but encouraged focusing on other materials like aluminium. The explosion released 825 tons of carbon dioxide, which is ~1% of the hourly emissions of the aluminum industry. The current amount of recycled cans in the US saves the equivalent to 15 rocket explosions of carbon every day.

      So yeah, get a reusable container, and try using aluminum instead of plastic.

      https://youtu.be/pXVmkurTOgM?is=r0lzXo4ugFjDY463

      • carl_the_grackle@lemmy.zip
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        Heads up: your YouTube link tells shows your channel to everyone who clicks it. This is due to YouTube’s new messaging feature, and how they set the default privacy settings to share your channel with everyone whenever you post a link. You need to remove everything from the ?is= onwards and also turn off the sharing feature if you don’t want everyone on Lemmy getting your profile and the ability to YouTube chat with you

      • homes@piefed.world
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        yeah, and there was a recent expose about how, on top of the fact that most plastic recycling doesn’t actually reduce overall pollution all that much, a huge amount of state and municipal recycling programs had been subsumed by some massive scam that just offloaded recycling waste to some 3rd-party program that eventually buried it all in landfills or dumped it somewhere anyway.

        the real answer is to stop producing/consuming so much waste (especially petrochemical-based waste) in the first place and to live in more sustainable and less waste-producing systems.

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          I 100% agree with your plastic statements. However, wanted to make a note that it is standard practice to put type 1 diabetics on a low dose blood pressure medication because it reduces wear on their kidneys, thereby reducing the risk of renal failure and other complications. Cholesterol meds are also prescribed proactively to people with a variety of chronic illnesses, particularly those related to heart health, who are often eating better than anyone here, but have higher risks of complications. Medications are tools amongst a variety of ways to help people live better lives.

          All that to say, what choices you make about medications and their place in your health are completely valid for you. That doesn’t mean your choices are applicable across the board. Please don’t give medical advice on the internet. (A conversation about the importance of communities designed to encourage exercise, and easy access to affordable unprocessed/low processed food is a different thing from “don’t take medications: everything can be cured by kale and a walk in the woods”)

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          Absolutely. I also want to point out how in some places reducing plastic consumption is so much easier than in others.

          Anecdotal: I now live walking distance from a “no plastic” shop that mostly refills your own containers -veggies, dried and liquid stuff… my plastic consumption is most weeks only the milk bottles. I used to live in many other places in which a life like this was hard or outright impossible.

          Support local movements to allow you to not use plastic, reuse and refills containers, or get rid of them.

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        Thankfully my country has a deposit system for cans and bottles (except for strong alcoholic drinks for some reason. Beer has deposit, wine, vodka etc do not)

        Most cans get recycled. There’s even hobos looking in communal garbage bins for recyclable containers because although there’s not a lot of money in it, it gets them what food banks don’t.

        I think most of Europe does this but in the rest of the world I’m not sure how much gets recycled or not

      • homes@piefed.world
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        Reduce, Reuse, and recycle what is left when possible. But avoid, whenever possible, non-reusable containers in the first place, thereby reducing your overall footprint.

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      Better yet, stop watching fifa sponsored games and make sure you don’t contribute anything to their revenue.

      Although seems like that’s impossible to a large number of people.

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          My apologies I didn’t meant to sound it was about you. I meant overall.

          Every time there is world championship there are cries about FIFA corruption, human rights violation and the moment the championship stats all gets quiet everyone seems to be watching it.

    • BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world
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      What the hell do they need a private jet for, that has to be a ego purchase, also they have the money for this but not for taking care of their employees, especially the ones getting harassed, I unsubscribed to their channel when they dropped that fake apology video with Advertisement, cant believe they are still profitable

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      Is that him using his jet or is it like a rented jet where other people use it when he doesn’t?

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      I haven’t watched LTT in a long time (basically ever since it was publicly obvious the money got to his head and everything that comes with ego), so when I saw somewhere he bought a jet, I first thought it was April Fools. Then after a short research I realized he’s for real. My partner, on the other hand, was convinced I fell for it, and it took me a while to prove him otherwise.

      Absolutely wild what Linus managed to convince (some of?) his fanboys. People will suck off filthy rich assholes like it’s their job.

    • skisnow@lemmy.ca
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      Is there a word, possibly German, for when you discover that the person you got douchey vibes off for years but couldn’t quite pin down why, is revealed to be exactly what you suspected? I just had flashbacks to Will Smith at the Oscars.

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        There is not, at least in german. But german offers us the possibility of making one. I´ll use the Zangendeutsch for douche, “Dusche”, then “Verdacht” for the suspicion, “Bestätigung” for its revelation as true and “Moment” which is german for, well, moment. Put in some suffixes (-en and -s) for grammatical reasons et voila: Duschenverdachtsbestätigungsmoment, a brand new german word meaning “the moment of the confirmation of the suspicion of the douche”.

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      Flying is truly one of the worst things an individual can do, carbon emissions-wise. These rich fucks practically fly their private jets to their backyard pools.

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        Achtually, a gas-powered car isn’t that far from an airplane in terms of CO2 emission per kilometer per person. But planes allow for long distance travels that you would never consider doing by car. It also depends how many people are in the car. Planes also produce more non-CO2 pollutants.
        If you were to choose between driving X km alone in your car or take a plane to the same destination, both options’ environmental impact would be quite close. But with carpooling, the car rapidly becomes a less bad option.

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          Private jets are more my concern here. Basically transporting a handful of people at best at an unreasonable energy cost.

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            If they are similar over the distance, surely the plane will be the same if it’s carrying the same amount of people. And beyond that, even the smaller jets that we’re talking about can carry a dozen people, you’d have to start using a bus to stay comparable. The LTT one specifies up to 19 passengers.

            I’m not trying to make light of private jets for individuals, but air travel is generally not as wasteful as it might seem, and it’s also a different ballgame when you start talking about trips that would have taken all day by road.

  • Uriel238 [all pronouns]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    Hank Green actually explained something optimistic after the Blue Origin rocket explosion (here on Youtube), that yes, there are big companies and big billionaires being superfluously wasteful.

    But there are a lot of us recycling our bottles and cans, and when we collectively do this, it makes more of a difference than rockets going boom, and jetsetting billionaires.

    Granted, we need to drastically reduce our ultra-wealthy for a vast myriad of reasons, but we do collectively make a big difference.

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      yes and no. be a good person do your bit but don’t forget to hold billionaires accountable (with more fervour than just a “yes but”) because they waste resources and fuck up the environment 1000 times more than an average individual and have no qualms about it. Nay they enjoy it and sometimes they even try to capitalize on it by acting as if they are on the team green (Taylor Swift). parasites are gonna parasite.

    • skisnow@lemmy.ca
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      yeah I really fucking hate how this particular meme format seems to subtly imply we can just stop making an effort. Always downvote whenever I see it.

      • NιƙƙιDιɱҽʂ@lemmy.world
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        Yeah, we could have a world in which we have ultra rich billionaires individually wasting that of a small nation on the regular and no one doing anything to try to offset it. I 100% get the defeatism, but it really does no one any good.

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      That’s what posts like this miss— collective action works, be it in collective bargaining, politics, or environmental action. It can be less effective than stronger actors, but it is still very effective. And often is more effective. People also miss that the average output of trash from middle class people is still a bit much.

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        Another point is that there are many areas where existing recycling and other environmentally friendly approaches can be greatly improved. For instance, the infinitely recyclable aluminum beverage cans are only recycled at around 43% in the US. Despite any wasteful practices by the ultra-wealthy, this is an area where everyone still must be diligent.

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      You’re right, we can’t afford to either only recycle all our bottles or only drastically reduce our ultra-wealthy.

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          There’s only about 3400 billionaires in the world, and wood is a renewable resource, so we could burn the guillotines when we’re done with them and still be carbon neutral!

  • M137@lemmy.today
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    Recycling is a very local thing, do it instead of leaving the bottle somewhere it can end up in nature. It’s also just a good and nice thing, same as minimising your plastic use, eating less meat (or ysing any products with animalistic ingredients etc.), buying as much as you can second hand or from companies that specifically go for longevity, natural and ecological ingredients, sustainability and so on.

    The real choices are what brands you buy from. Never give money to any company that has any connection to people like this.

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    Unless any of you has a dope space station or starship we are indeed all stuck with one another here.

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        Look again at that dot. That’s here. That’s home. That’s us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every “superstar,” every “supreme leader,” every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there–on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.

        The Earth is a very small stage in a vast cosmic arena. Think of the rivers of blood spilled by all those generals and emperors so that, in glory and triumph, they could become the momentary masters of a fraction of a dot. Think of the endless cruelties visited by the inhabitants of one corner of this pixel on the scarcely distinguishable inhabitants of some other corner, how frequent their misunderstandings, how eager they are to kill one another, how fervent their hatreds.

        Our posturings, our imagined self-importance, the delusion that we have some privileged position in the Universe, are challenged by this point of pale light. Our planet is a lonely speck in the great enveloping cosmic dark. In our obscurity, in all this vastness, there is no hint that help will come from elsewhere to save us from ourselves.

        The Earth is the only world known so far to harbor life. There is nowhere else, at least in the near future, to which our species could migrate. Visit, yes. Settle, not yet. Like it or not, for the moment the Earth is where we make our stand.

        It has been said that astronomy is a humbling and character-building experience. There is perhaps no better demonstration of the folly of human conceits than this distant image of our tiny world. To me, it underscores our responsibility to deal more kindly with one another, and to preserve and cherish the pale blue dot, the only home we’ve ever known.